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RAGE: Three Xbox 360 discs, 8GB PS3 install photo

Never has the name RAGE been more appropriate for console gamers, with word that non-computer versions of id Software's upcoming shooter will have some controversial requirements -- whichever machine you pick. 

The Xbox 360 version will need three DVDs in order to house all the pretty images of hideous mutants, while the PS3 version carries an 8GB installation. Ouch!

"Sony was great. Kudos to Sony for letting us do that. They don't allow every game to do that. So definitely, hats off," said creative director Tim Willits. He also recommended that 360 users still install the game, and that they can "Install the first disc, the first chapter, the first half of the game, then when you're done, uninstall and install disc two. You don't really need to install the multiplayer disc if you're really tight on hard disk space."

I argued in a freelance article last week that consoles had become little more than crappy PCs, and stuff like this really hammers it home. Remember when the benefits of consoles were the ability to just throw in a disc and start playing? Kudos to id for doing their best, but I'm starting to really struggle to find the pros of console gaming anymore. 

Rage: The Return of id Software [Eurogamer]








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Laharl-KOTNW's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:35
Laharl-KOTNW
I have no interest in this game, though I don't see what the big deal is. Is popping out one disk, then inserting another that tedious? I use to love playing to the next disk in the ps1 days.
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:36
llort het
"I argued in a freelance article last week that consoles had become little more than crappy PCs, and stuff like this really hammers it home. Remember when the benefits of consoles were the ability to just throw in a disc and start playing? Kudos to id for doing their best, but I'm starting to really struggle to find the pros of console gaming anymore."

Well multiple disks is something you can't really do anything about. But yeah, those mandatory installs are kind of killing the "console convenience advantage."

Like I've said before, I also think that hooking up consoles to the internet was the worst thing to happen to the video game industry in years. Oh well
Erik Conan Olson's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:38
Erik Conan Olson
You could grate cheese on that guy's torso.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:39
Chris Carter
'DAS LIKE 1/8 of my PS3'S HDD!

HDD technology is really progressing at a snale's pace on current gen devices. For God sakes, I have 25GB of data to bring onto the Vita day one, and Sony wants me to pay $150 for 32GB of proprietary SD storage? Microsoft wants me to pay the same amount for 250GB of space as a 2TB form factor? Seriously?
meteorscrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:42
meteorscrap
The console which solves this problem next generation is going to be the clear winner of that race. Whether it's a storage media with good enough transfer rates while keeping the machine quiet or simply requiring publishers to program their game so it installs in the background while playing the multiplayer and/or first chapter of the game, whichever console allows gamers to get back to the pop-in and play gameplay will be the one which wins the average gamer's heart next gen.
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:42
Stinky
So Jim, did you miss the bit where the 360 install was optional? As for your linked rant; anything that hooks up permanently to the internet can be expected to get patches, or pwned. Unplug your console and both things go away.
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:43
Master Snake
I don't think swapping multiple discs is that bad, but having to uninstall the previous disc just to pop in the next disc to install that one? Yeah... tedious and annoying already and the game isn't even out yet.

Also, what llort het said about hooking up console to the internet. I agree with that.
Namodacranks's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:45
Namodacranks
JIM I SAID NEXT SEXY PIC TIME YOU MUST POST SAUCE!!!









Lol rgea? Iv nevr herd dis game.
Manthai's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:45
Manthai
Granted that isn't the case for PS3, but with 360 you can still throw in the disc and start playing, it will just run like shit. I don't know who doesn't install whatever main game they're playing on their 360 anyway, the older models have dvd drives that sound like jet engines.
Samhain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:45
Samhain
I really do wish the next round of consoles would focus on speeding everything up and getting rid of load times so i feel you.

But the pros of console gaming will always be the steady and sometimes overwhelming stream of excellent games and the ease of playing them on your couch the way god intended.
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:47
Red TheHaze Veron
I would install the games anyway, regardless of the console of my choice. I want the benefits of a faster load times while in the game and don't really care about waiting to install it before playing it.
RocketKnight's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:50
RocketKnight
I think when it gets to this point, that means we're getting ready for the next generation. This won't last much longer, I think(hope).
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:50
Jim Sterling
"So Jim, did you miss the bit where the 360 install was optional?"

Did you miss the bit where I never said it was mandatory? Because I never said it was mandatory. I said it was recommended.

Reading's fun.
JFF's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:51
JFF
Is the multiplatform generation, PCs suffers from crap ports and consoles suffers from requirements(PS3) and unfinished games(patches). The good side is that you can play almost everything with a single platform.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:57
pokota
A mandatory install isn't exactly something that bothers me. Maybe it's because I'm an old school PC gamer, but it's no big deal. I have the internet, so killing 15 minutes while I wait for an installation is like cake. I don't really get people who act like they're going to slit their wrists if they don't get to play immediately.

That being said, the more I see of Rage, the less I want it, and I used to be very excited about it. All the commercials seem to feature a LOT of the classic "running backwards while shooting" mechanic, and I'm kind of tired of that.
Stereocast's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:58
Stereocast
But I do play my PC games easily through steam on my couch. It sits in my living room hooked up to my 65" DLP. Never understood this argument... You are now aware that today's video cards have HDMI out and look 5X better than consoles. I can even hook up an 360 controller to it, y'know, if I wanted to...
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:59
TrevHead
Theres nothing much we can about increasing HD installs, if we want next gen textures youve gotta pay for it in memory. Its this kinda stuff that really shows that Sony and MS are taking the piss with their prices on memory.

Anyway 2-3 discs is nothing compared to how bad it got with PC CDs just before they were phased out. IIRC My Klingon Academy had 6 CDs
RoninZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 22:59
RoninZero






Those each only fit on one Xbox 360 disc/require an 8GB install? Lame.
AvianFlame's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:01
AvianFlame
[ing]http://imgur.com/dTiui.jpg[/img]
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:01
Darren Nakamura
That man is impressively V-shaped.
Fuzunga's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:03
Fuzunga
So what exactly is the purpose of the mandatory PS3 install?
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:03
Stinky
@Jim: "Remember when the benefits of consoles were the ability to just throw in a disc and start playing?"

This implies that one can't just do that on the 360. You're an editor, you do the math.
spman2099's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:04
spman2099
I think we all know what the guy in the picture is saying...

"Come at me bro!"
Smuckers's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:06
Smuckers
Meh, I don't really see the big deal. I splurged last year and bought a 250gb hdd for my xbox and i installed a 500gb one in my ps3. Besides, switching discs hasn't ever been that big a deal, and installing something like this on the ps3 while i guess its a little odious it's just a one time thing.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:06
Jawmuncher
Only 3 discs?
What the fuck, I was hoping for 4 or more.

Fuckers lied when they said this would be a huge game.

Man why do people hate multiple discs so much. I'd love to have a 6 disc game cone out. Guess I'll just stick to my old PC FMV titles.

Now those are multiple disc heaven.
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:06
SKSith
Horray for having a 500GB hard drive!
Infinite Combo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:11
Infinite Combo
A game you buy for a console is guaranteed to run. Also consoles have the benefit of the used and rental markets.
SuicideNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:13
SuicideNinja
Remember when multiple discs meant a game was long and amazing? Now it's something to whine about?

Still can't believe "Mandatory installs". It compliments their obnoxious eternal updates. Sorry, I'll take more disks over that situation.

I just hope the next round of consoles they don't pull this crap where there are "different models". Sony and Microsoft would have been better off just making a single device with one price (still would have sold out for months). Sony would have started making money faster by cutting the unnecessary extras in the 60GB version, and Microsoft would have all 360's with HDD's.
Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:13
Oishidesu
@Stinky
Did you forget to read the part where you NEED to install each disk to run on par with the PS3, and doing so would take 21-23 gbs? Yeah, didn't think so.
RaelXX's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:18
RaelXX
Every game I'm going to main I install on my 360. And the install time takes so little time that I can't devote myself to having fun with something else in the meanwhile. Swapping discs is also sth that isn't a damn problem. I have several games that need swapping and I'll quote some:
- Castlevania Lord of Shadows (2 discs)
- Lost Odyssey (4 discs)
- Final fantasy VII (3 discs)
- Black Dahlia (8 discs)
- Baldur's Gate 2 (4 discs)
- Infinite Undiscovery (2 discs)

They're all wonderful games.
Vallanthaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:24
Vallanthaz
Haha, man.

PC gamers have to be really sad to think that anyone is raging over this.
spman2099's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:25
spman2099
People who are under the impression that you can play Rage on the 360 without downloading it to the HD are lying to themselves...

Go try to play Tekken 6 without installing it to the HD; sure it is optional, but the game take so long to load that you would be foolish to not think it was broken.

Rage will probably be just like Tekken 6, damn near unplayable without the download to the HD.
Cornelius Klein's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:31
Cornelius Klein
Whats the point with the installing? I guess each disk will be 2 till 3 gb, dont act like this takes long to install.
I mean, I can just trow the disk in when I come home and do some other stuff for the few min installing.

The real Problem with pc gaming, is for myself that the Internet allways keeps me away from the games.
Domii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:33
Domii
"I'm starting to really struggle to find the pros of console gaming anymore."

You know what the pros are? Better Games.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:36
Mr Andy Dixon
@Master Snake

"I don't think swapping multiple discs is that bad, but having to uninstall the previous disc just to pop in the next disc to install that one? Yeah... tedious and annoying already and the game isn't even out yet."

You don't HAVE to uninstall the first. He's just saying that if you're low on disc space you can, since you won't ever need to go back to disc 1 :)
digitalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:41
digitalon
@RaelXX oh don't forget the original Baldur's Gate! That thing had this big paper case to hold around 8 disks, now that was a game! Think I still have it floating around here too.
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:45
Stinky
@Oishidesu: Can't see that quoted anywhere? Oh that's right you made that up!
RoverTHX's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:48
RoverTHX
Everyone email Nintendo to make sure that developers will never need to use hard drive installation for upcoming Wii-U console!

Even you Sony and Microsoft Fanboys! (Sony and Microsoft might invest/improve that concept if Nintendo does it first!) *shot*

But seriously I'm sorry for anyone who downloads RAGE with mild internet speed for their PC.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:53
Tristrix
The only time a long install bothers me on PS3 is when the game still has long load times after being installed. I can't think of any plausible excuse for that, ever. Otherwise, I can always go find something else to do while the game installs. I find it to be a good time to go clean my kitchen or start laundry.
Karavision's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:54
Karavision
Jim, that picture has given me hope for the future.

Thank You.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2011 23:59
Janklogs
"Remember when the benefits of consoles were the ability to just throw in a disc and start playing?"

No, I had to blow in my carts and clean my discs. Your house must've been immaculate.

Also, no DRM = console gaming still prevails.
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/26/2011 00:01
Master Snake
@Andy: Oh, ok. I consider myself corrected then. Thank goodness.

Still though, having to install each disc separately is pretty tedious-sounding.
HoFT013's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/26/2011 00:01
HoFT013
I'm okay with this.
doewnskitty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/26/2011 00:08
doewnskitty
Not really a big deal, unless you're someone with low HDD space. I played Star Ocean 4, that's four discs, from a year ago. Granted, much of that was apparently given over to lots of voice acting and HD cutscenes, but not a big mess. The only thing that was lousy was that in order to revisit certain areas, you had to change discs.

The only fault I can make for this, being on the 360, is that this could be easily mitigated with allowing use of 3rd party hard drives. I have a 500 gb external drive connectable via USB that could be usable, but instead, it's about being locked into using their proprietary HDDs. 16 gb of storage space, MS? I can piss more than that on the morning after a solid amount of drinking from the night prior.
Tyler Youngblood's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/26/2011 00:09
Tyler Youngblood
no problem for my ps3 and its terabyte harddrive.
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