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What? I'm sorry, Carmack needs to rephrase that: "We still don't have a fucking clue how to properly code for Ps3, and basically, we're just just through loops to workaround it. we suck"
Fortunately my PC stomps both my PS3 and 360 in the graphics and performance department, so it's really a no brainer what platform I'm gonna get this on.
What? I'm sorry, Carmack needs to rephrase that: "We still don't have a fucking clue how to properly code for Ps3, and basically, we're just just through loops to workaround it. we suck"
It has already begun.
It has already begun.
Does this even have a release date? I'll care about the framerate, if ID hasn't shaped things up, then. Today I care about Fat Princess.
@Catmurderer - A rasterizer is what turns vectors/polygons into pixels that you see on-screen, since most displays require rasterized (i.e. bitmap) output.
At lease id, unlike Valve, are not incapable of working on the PS3. My I'm-sick-of-RRoD hat is off to you, Mr. Carmack.
I'm curious to hear what the Trey Brotherhood has to say about this. My guess, they didn't even care about the game in the first place.
Lol, this means nothing. Optimization is one of the things you do near the end of the game's development. I bet the PS3 one will be fine by the end. Anyways, this game is Call of Duty, so you don't need a 60 FPS frame rate to play. 30 frames per second is plenty fine for most non-twitch shooters. Most people don't even realize that most modern games are just 30 FPS. Only dumbasses think every game requires 60.
@yairagat
Shut the fuck up. We don't need another tard who can barely type a sentence screaming about how devs who can't work with the notoriously difficult to code for PS3 are just shitty coders.
Shut the fuck up. We don't need another tard who can barely type a sentence screaming about how devs who can't work with the notoriously difficult to code for PS3 are just shitty coders.
I've never seen other developers having problems with a slower rasterizer. Maybe he needs a little game-development workshop from Naughty Dog, Kojima, Guerrilla or Criterion.
@Dexter
As I was telling someone earlier, this could be an announcement about Mickey Mouse's Spelling Adventure and people would still flip a shit just for the sake of being offended.
As I was telling someone earlier, this could be an announcement about Mickey Mouse's Spelling Adventure and people would still flip a shit just for the sake of being offended.
Seriously? This pisses me off. LAZINESS. That's all this is. I've seen MANY games running 60 FPS so don't try and blame it on "Hardware limitations". Ask Sony for help, don't be a douche like those lame asses over at Valve.(although if the rumors of L4D2 coming to the PS3 are true you might finally make it out of the dog house valve, out of the dog house and onto my shelf)
Stop being lazy, MENTOK DEMANDS IT!
Stop being lazy, MENTOK DEMANDS IT!
This just in.... games being developed in a new experimental engine for the PC translate easily to a Windows based console but not to the PS3.
Typically I'd shrug this sort of thing off as lazy US developers like Valve (seriously, I jest!) but this is John "Fucking" Carmack, and he tends to be quite on the ball for this sort of thing.
Mind you I've yet to give a crap about Rage, so, meh.
Mind you I've yet to give a crap about Rage, so, meh.
Maybe MENTOK should show them how it's done rather than DEMANDING anything...oh wait, you don't know how to code on a PS3 either. Hmmm....
Weird. Weren't they originally saying they'd have to gimp the PS3 version to make it identical to the Xbox 360 one? But yeah, $10 says both versions are roughly indistinguishable by the time this comes out
The consoles have different strengths? The PS3's strength is in it's shitloads of processing power, the 360's in it's graphics chip and RAM, and the Wii's in
Of course not, the devs are lazy. They're exactly the same hardware really.
Of course not, the devs are lazy. They're exactly the same hardware really.
3 years into this gen and devs are still complaining about coding for the PS3? What is this Valve taking over the business?
@GuitarAtomik
Other way around, the 360 apparently was limiting the game by nature of DVD not having enough space. But that was all.
Other way around, the 360 apparently was limiting the game by nature of DVD not having enough space. But that was all.
These types of stories are very ify! My hunch is Carmack was mis quoted by the magazine, and the need for big store/headline out waited the need for truth. It’s obvious a reporter would gobble up this type of statement, plus it’s obvious that game dev wouldn’t just spit these types of comments out because it hurts there bottom line.
360 is close to a pc design wise, therefore those used to the PC find it easier to develop for than the PS3... we've known this for a while.
The fact that John Carmack and his team seem dedicated enough to make the PS3 equal is a good sign.
Plus in GameInformer JC said there were plus sides to working with the PS3 as well.
The fact that John Carmack and his team seem dedicated enough to make the PS3 equal is a good sign.
Plus in GameInformer JC said there were plus sides to working with the PS3 as well.
Oh my God. People are complaining about a 30 FPS frame rate? For God's sake, it's fine. 60 FPS isn't required for a game to look good, and it isn't any "worse" if a game doesn't go that high. As long as it doesn't fluctuate as you play to make you throw up.
I honestly don't care about this game running slower, because to be honest I'm suprised that the PS3 is even fucking getting it.
@MC
Because I was rushed for time to get this up and needed a quick pic of a shooter that I could pixelate.
Because I was rushed for time to get this up and needed a quick pic of a shooter that I could pixelate.
@The Meat
Um ID are the company that was just recently bought by ZeniMax so until we see how that pans out I give a shit, thanks for asking though.
@Yairagat
Not much to say to you you fanboy retard, hmm, fuck off just about sums it up. See you again in Fanboy Friday
Um ID are the company that was just recently bought by ZeniMax so until we see how that pans out I give a shit, thanks for asking though.
@Yairagat
Not much to say to you you fanboy retard, hmm, fuck off just about sums it up. See you again in Fanboy Friday
TONS of PC gams cap out at 30FPS......
I think that it's amazing how many people think that they can tell the differnce from 30fps to 60fps, hell, movies are filmed at like 24fps are they not?
I think that it's amazing how many people think that they can tell the differnce from 30fps to 60fps, hell, movies are filmed at like 24fps are they not?
American TV is displayed at 24 fps including a blur frame, which is what keeps the images smooth.The urban legend that we can only see 24 fps comes from that. The average human eye is capable of detecting the difference between 40 and 60 fps, and with practice some people can see the difference between 60 and 100 fps.
@mix - Erm...despite what you may want to believe, there's quite a difference between playing a game at 30fps and 60fps. Frankly, I don't see how 60fps should be a problem with modern consoles. It'd be nice to see it with anti-aliasing, as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
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