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R4 Emulator card banned in UK photo

The legendary R4 card, which allows gamers to essentially help themselves to the entire Nintendo DS library, has become officially illegal to import, advertise and sell in the United Kingdom. The R4 is used by thousands of UK gamers, but as of today it is outlawed.

"Nintendo promotes and fosters game development and creativity, and strongly supports the game developers who legitimately create new and innovative applications," states Nintendo. "Nintendo initiates these actions not only on its own behalf, but also on behalf of over 1,400 video game-development companies that depend on legitimate sales of games for their survival."

It has been argued that the R4 has legitimate uses as a homebrew device, or a means of storing digital versions of games that have already been purchased. While these are ways in which the R4 can be used, the popular and most commonly boasted use has always been to simply pirate games. 

I wish I could claim this is an outrageous ruling that infringes on our freedom, but screw it. The R4 has always disturbed me, especially in a community where we complain about there not being enough "hardcore" games, yet hardcore games don't sell on the DS because a bunch of people have stolen them. I've not got some moral objection to piracy, but the wholesale theft of a console's entire library by the very gamers who demand that they be catered to just never sat well with me. 

So sod the R4.

Nintendo victory as R4 emulator is outlawed [Develop]








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Onyx Oblivion's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:07
Onyx Oblivion
The R4 will not be missed.

In fact, my aunt bought my 10 year old cousin one, and I'm tempted to break it (when no one is looking) the next time that I visit. Very tempted...
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:13
The Silent Protagonist
No tears shed here. I have zero sympathy for people who steal games and then say they're gamers.
OatmealNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:14
OatmealNinja
@onyx
That'd be a pretty dick move. Just ignore it. Be adult.
VoodooTerror's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:15
VoodooTerror
as much as i hate how expensive ds games are, im still happy to say that ive never even considered buying one of those things
TheOldHouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:15
TheOldHouse
what happens to the cards already out there? I suppose those are still legal?
Uzeless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:19
Uzeless
This is a conspiracy!! NINTENDO manufacture the R4 and this little move of theirs will increase sales a hundred fold! A HUNDRED FOLD I tells ya!!
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:20
Hasney
SCUMMVM

Fuck you Nintendo.

Strange to see US go forward with copyright law and the UK backwards in one day. Feel like I'm in opposite land.
genericuser's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:22
genericuser
@Jim: why are you making the assumption that hardcore games don't sell well because of piracy?
Snorbuckle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:23
Snorbuckle
Its about time we banned pc hard drives and DVD burners too, that way we can only get our pc games from legitimate retail stores on discs.
lokhe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:23
lokhe
There is no need to read Jims articles.... You have but to look at the header images, and they will explain everything... right?
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:24
Hasney
Wait... This is just the R4 as well. Mental, considering there's about 20 different flashcards on the market.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:25
shinryu
stuff like this bothers me because it cuts off all the legal homebrew opportunities. but yeah, if you just wanna pillage every single game you play, f*** you.
J03yyz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:26
J03yyz
lol @ them banning the crappiest of the flash cards for the DS

ill continue using my cyclo
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:28
Hasney
God we need an edit button.

Just wanted to say that the R4 is also outdated and unmaintained compared to all the others. It's like they've just gone after the biggest brand (I don't even believe official R4's are manufactured anymore, all the current ones are knock-offs)
Sanious's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:29
Sanious
I have no problem with this because it's trying to protect their products.

But some of these comments are lulz. Either way you put it, whether these people are downloading catalogs of games vs. people who generally pirate you're both doing the same thing, so let's not get superior here.
JFF's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:34
JFF
Not that I want to defend piracy, but in some places in the world a DS game can cost 70 USD with import taxes. Even in the UK, you can guarantee there will not be young people who work hard but earn to little to buy games?
Again, I'm not advocating piracy'm just saying that this type of card will always find its way.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:36
Sexualchocolate
Wow, some of you guys need the Waaaahmbulance. It's not your right to own pirating tools, it's not your right to get free DS games, it's not even your right to download copies of games you already own. It's your right as a DS owner to buy and play official DS games from official sources and in official formats.

R4 cards have no other use than PIRACY - correct me if i'm wrong.

Piracy is illegal.

I cannot fathom why they weren't illegal in the first place. It's like selling daterape, advertised as daterape, without even reminding people that Rape is illegal.

I have a buddy who in the past, would buy 5+ R4 cards, load them up with games (not even a, painstaking, lovingly downloaded Rom collection, a simple "rom collection" single torrent! and sell them for 5/6 times what he paid for the R4.

I must admit, i have borrowed one of said friends DS's complete with R4 card, but i used it to see if i wanted to buy a legit DS and to buy games for it. It did not impress me so i did not buy (Well it made me buy GTA chinatown on my PSP). Fingers crossed the 3DS will be more impressive.

@Uzeless - where do i find a bigger version of your Avatar? I just wanna see if it looks better or worse full size.
superdeeduper51's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:39
superdeeduper51
Maybe these dinks can actually start buying games then. I wouldn't give two shits if you were pirating 360 or PS3 games, but DS games? That's pretty sad.
urahara's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:39
urahara
I think the best part of this story was the side advert I got, advertising DS gamecards. You fail advert, you fail miserably.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:41
BalloonFighter
Buy your games.
maelstromZERO's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:42
maelstromZERO
As I've understood it, part of the reason why the R4 and other flashcards have been so successful is because the portability of the DS is maximized when you have a bunch of games on a single cart.

Of course getting some hundreds of games absolutely free is also a pretty big draw too, but think about it: if I'm a gamer with a 10-game DS library and constantly use my DS while on the subway or waiting in lines, having to shuffle in my pocket/bag for the game I want takes away a lot of the quick turn-on-and-play simplicity of having a portable device.

Having a flashcard changes all that, since you can just turn the DS on, pick a game, and switch to a different game within seconds. Honestly, if the DS was a console, I think piracy wouldn't be as serious a problem as it is now. It's the fact that flashcards streamline the whole portable process that makes it such a huge draw. Alongside other more obvious reasons, of course.
KaL YoshiKa's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:42
KaL YoshiKa
There was also that freeware basic painting program, Colours or something - that was pretty handy - a totally legitimate use of flash carts.
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:43
Max-
Hopefully with this the prices for the actual games will come down to the equivalent of $30, because £30=/=$30....

...Nah, ain't gonna happen is it?
crazy turtle1234's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:46
crazy turtle1234
Thing is though, DS games here do tend to be outrageously expensive. I mean, Animal Crossing (I legitimetely bought that game, and another copy for my cousin's birthday) is still about £30 here, maybe at the best £25, and that equals roughly to about 40-46 dollars. And 29 buckaroos in the States (i.e the normal cost of a DS game) equals to about £19 here. I mean, come on! I'm not saying piracy is good or that it is moral, but you have to admit those prices are pretty unreasonable. Plus the nearest games outlet to me is GAME. So yeah. I'm fucked when it comes to gaming.
Snorbuckle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:47
Snorbuckle
Sexualchocolate, you are indeed wrong. The R4 can run homebrew software and can turn the DS into an mp3 player and a video player. People use the R4 and other flashcart devices to read books and other documents, there is even homebrew software allowing people to view comics on their DS. A friend of mine used to make amazing animations on a simple flipbook style homebrew animation editor.

There are multiple legitimate uses for a flash cart device. The problem lies with the users, not with the technology.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:48
Hasney
@Sexualchocolate

Here is the current contents of my AceKard2i. All of the below is also compatible with the R4:

MoonShell Media Player
NDS Mail Email Client
Ace Attorney DS: Casemaker 1.1 (Honest to god, the single greatest thing on any console ever. A fairly easy to use creator for creating Phoenix Wright style games ar even just go straight in with Ace Attorney fanfic. Contains MP3, movie playback and even a motion cartridge add-on for motion enabled controls. Simply amazing)
Mario Kart Extra Tracks
A few emulators
DS Doom
SCUMMVM (Best version of Sam and Max EVER)
DSAcadamy
GeoWarsDS

And a bunch of other homebrew games. That has literally scraped the surface of all the legitamate programs you can run from this page
here
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:51
Max-
@Sexualchocolate - Of course, to see if the picture looks better full sized, amirite? ;)
Ujn Hunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 08:56
Ujn Hunter
Are they using "R4" as a catchall term? Like... "Band-Aid" or "Kleenex"? Or... what?
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:00
Hasney
@Ujn Hunter

According to the linked article, it is literally only R4's as it's an injunction against 2 individual manufacturers of them. This has not outlawed any other flashcart.
gunstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:02
gunstar
Whether R4 and piracy its all part of the plan only Nintendo knows.

Nintendo and its pirates have a love hate relationship.
Pirates are like the Mafia of gaming.
They sell Nintendo consoles by stealing their games.
They will have your games available to more countries, increasing the demand & resulting to what many fanboys call "success" or "victory" - units sales & installed base.
But who suffers?
Not Nintendo but its the likes of Sega, Namco Bandai, Capcom and most of the developers.
Nintendo tried to make the Gamecube hard to pirate...result?....an all time low of around 22 million units lifetime sales... that's 50 million units shy of the Wii and 110 million units shy of the DS.

R4 is just a petty pirate to catch what about the other big time pirates?
With all its billions Nintendo can really afford a decent anti-piracy method on its system I just feel they really wanted to do it.

Just my dos centimos.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:04
Chris Carter
Joystiq says that it's not just R4 cards - it's most of the knockoff as well.

Thats a fairly different story altogether, considering *just* R4s would make no significant impact.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/28/r4-and-other-nintendo-ds-flashcarts-outlawed-in-uk/
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:04
Nic128
Just R4? Why not all cards?
crazy turtle1234's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:06
crazy turtle1234
@Max

When that happens I'll never pirate another game, pure and simple.
crazy turtle1234's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:08
crazy turtle1234
@Snorbuckle
I agree, I just don't have that kind of moral restraint ;)
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:09
Hasney
@Magnalon

They link to a different gi.biz story as well as the Develop one. The Develop one only mentions R4's and 2 manufacturers of R4's.

I'm too lazy to register with gi.biz to read their whole story, so I'm guessing they mention more or different details :)
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:12
Sexualchocolate
I stand corrected.

Still, how many soccer moms looking for a cheap way to keep their kids quiet really want all those homebrew apps?
We're not talking a few r4 cards sold to (no offence) geeks, we're talking millions.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:14
whormongr
people are so ignorant when it comes to this - my ds use is prolly in the range of 70% of the time using it with either DS colors as a portable sketchpad, running emulators, emulating the gb for LSDJ, using glitch, nitrotracker and a bunch of other homebrew and the other 30% playing actual games on it- the aim of the carts for some people may be to just pirate games but for others like me the MAIN reason to have a flashcart is to be able to run homebrew and unregistered code on it because crippling the hardware just because you can and then claiming that you don't have the right to control hardware that you own is wasteful and a little bit big brother. People can whine about pirate this and pirate that but in the end it really is the open platform that will win out and people will look back in 50 years or so and think that we were a bunch of idiots to buy in to the corporatization of thought and our snap ability to demonize people for what should be the obvious. Either that or we will continue to give up more and more control passively until the whole place is shit, but things haven't been moving in that direction.
otikik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:18
otikik
POWDER. OMG POWDER.

Since I downloaded that one (legally) I haven't played anything else. I even sent $20 to its creator.

POWDER is AWESOME.
EroThraX's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:18
EroThraX
Genuine R4's haven't been manufactured for nearly 2 years. The only R4's on the market are knock off's using the name.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:20
HEL105
I love this idea that if something's more expensive than you'd like, that makes it perfectly fine to just steal it. Outstanding logic! Feel free to apply that reasoning to other aspects of your life, and see how that works out.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:21
Hasney
@Sexualchocolate

None taken, I'm a total geek for this type of crap and have been since the PS1. You're right, there will be pirating fucktards using it.

Looking around at that homebrew reminded me that there is a device called the iplayer, which is more powerful than the R4 but doesn't run game ROMs. Still doesn't let you dump and carry your library of games unfortunatly, but if the rumored install feature on the 3DS comes to fruition, it won't be needed on that device.
Fuck fuck fuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:25
Fuck fuck fuck
Good riddance!!! I'm one of the few who actually bought GTA Chinatown Wars and Retro Game Challenge, and I was pretty pissed off when the latter didn't get its sequel translated because of poor sales, so I won't be crying over that piece of news to say the least!
Pyrex is Metal's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:29
Pyrex is Metal
I put most of the games I own on mine. And some roms (dtoid rated mother 3 in their top 10, how did they play it? Not in japanese I assure you). And I use it to try games, I like em I buy em. I hate em I delete em.
lucame's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:32
lucame
my r4i owns and sexuachocolate can eat my fat italian dickz0r
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:32
njsykora
Amen. The 3% of people who use flashcards purely for homebrew cannot cry since they always refuse to acknowledge the other 97% who use it for (let's be honest) its intended purpose.
Blitzard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:36
Blitzard
I live in a country where copyright laws don't even exists and therefore almost EVERYONE (save for PS3 owners) pirates games. You can buy pirated version of games from everywhere and for something like 1 buck. Getting original games is something close to impossible unless you're really rich. Also, bear in my mind that 50$ for a videogame is really a lot here, considering normal salaries and such.

So far I have imported Pokemon Diamond and I plan to import Starcraft II. To do so you need the help of someone that can go abroad because no one ever ships ANYTHING to Iran, and paypal and most other payment sites are blocked here.

So yeah, I have an r4 for my DS, and I can say that my conscience is perfectly at ease. It's not like I COULD buy the original games and I didn't want to, it's just nearly impossible for me to play anything in these conditions.
lucame's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:36
lucame
i have stolen shit that i could afford, its not a matter of price.

i will keep downloading shit and pirate shit as much as i can, and i make a point of not paying for it if it can be had for free.

I will buy a 3ds when the equivalent of r4/acecard comes out for it, and i will steal all their new games as well. Piracy owns. I love it so much.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:38
The Silent Protagonist
Yes, kids, games are expensive.

When I was a kid, they cost fifty bucks a pop and releases were not weekly like they are today. If you want to "keep up" or "stay current" you'll wind up facing great expenses for doing so.

Which is why I do now what I did back them - I play what I have, play it into the ground and save for what I really want. Financially ruining yourself or stealing games just to be part of a conversation is, quite frankly, fucking stupid.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:38
The Silent Protagonist
Yes, kids, games are expensive.

When I was a kid, they cost fifty bucks a pop and releases were not weekly like they are today. If you want to "keep up" or "stay current" you'll wind up facing great expenses for doing so.

Which is why I do now what I did back them - I play what I have, play it into the ground and save for what I really want. Financially ruining yourself or stealing games just to be part of a conversation is, quite frankly, fucking stupid.
J03yyz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 09:39
J03yyz
@lucame

AMEN brotha!
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