I enjoyed Heavy Rain but I felt it was in spite of the game rather than because of it!

Example: Supposed to make a meal for my son and look after him? Lol, I'll shoot some hoops outside in the rain instead!

So yeah, I'm looking forward to this if not for the reasons I'm supposed to XD

Please be good... I did like Fahrenheit, but if this is another Heavy Rain I'm gonna be soooooooo sad.

Let me guess, it would be another bad game written and directed by a man that never really socializes with other human beings on a regular basis so every social interaction comes off as awkward and creepy?

Hopefully the story for this one is better than Heavy Rain's. Loved Indigo Prophecy, only thoroughly enjoyed Heavy Rain.

Am I the only one who actually loved nearly every aspect of Heavy Rain?

@pedrovay2003
No, most did. Personally it's my least favourite PS3 exclusive.

@Pedrovay: I hope not. I really enjoyed the game a lot, the atmosphere, the real anxiety you have while playing hoping your character don't die (something i haven't feel ever since in another game).

@Cess007
Okay, I'm all for different opinions and all that, but , really?

Many times I dropped the controller because I was so angry that my characters COULDN'T die in that game, it felt like a direct lie from Cage. Whenever I wondered "what will happen if I fuck up here" the game either didn't go anywhere and waited for me or just automatically finished stuff for me. Did we play different games? I don't think I actually felt tension once in that game, maybe-just-maybe at the final chase, but that was probably it.

I'm going to predict it will have a lot of promise at its first showing, following in a campaign hype train emphasizing how it will move game stories forward, all leading up to its release as a compromised product riddled with plot holes that are impossible to ignore because David Cage won't stop reminding us how much of a great story-teller he is.

Did he just settle for games after he couldn't make it in movies? What's the story with that guy?

Farenheit was ok until the end. WTF? Heavy Rain was ok. David Cage is a snobby poop. I'm praying fir a good game.

Couldn't help but notice that JASON! wrote this article! :)

They never explained why Ethan had origami figures in his hands, because they cut a 100% stupid subplot about being psychically linked to the Origami Killer. They took a hatchet to it instead of a scalpel, and didn't bother tying up loose ends or realizing only an earlier draft explained how some characters even knew each other in the first place. (How does Madison have Jayden's number again? Have they ever met or even referenced each other in the game?)

It's stupid and amateur stuff like that that make me love the concept but hate how Cage never seems to learn from his mistakes.

That psychic link business actually sounds interesting and somewhat original. I bet Cage cut it because it wasn't "adult" enough.

Maybe David Cage should just hire a real director this time.

Am I the only one wishing Quantic Dream will gett off their collective asses and actually finish telling the whole Heavy Rain story? They promised us 5 DLC packs and only put out one before they decided to put everything on hold for adding that cockamamie Move support crap!

As soon as I got to the twist in Heavy Rain I cursed at my HDTV and shook my first at Quantic Dream for writing the dumbest fucking plot I've ever experienced.

Did you read that Quantic Dream? HIRE A NEW WRITER.

Expand on Kara, yo.

Looks like the Dtoid community is picking up the slack since Jim didnt write the article. Shame, people just need to hate rather than be concerned.

I hope the game is David Cage: The Movie: The Game in which you play revolutionary game director David Cage as he becomes the world's most visionary director. The game is based on an ego meter which decreases or increases depending on your choices.
Examples of ego increasing choices:
Tell haters on Destructoid to fuck off
Don't hire a writer and write the game's plot yourself
Give interviews about your artistic vision

Examples of ego decreasing choices:
Hire a competent writer
Work on the game (where you quickly realize you are not the world's greatest director)

Bleagh....>.<;

Heavy Rain 2: Electric Boogaloo

Wow. I just saw that Kara Demo for the first time, and I'll be honest, I got watery eyes. That was a 6+ minute video that managed to evoke more legitimate emotion out of me than 90% of the movies and video games I've played over the last 10 years. For anyone who hasn't seen the video, it's here:

http://youtu.be/Dou4Gy0p97Y

Yes, the tech is phenomenal, it leaps across the uncanny valley, but it's so well crafted. If this is the direction QD is going thematically, I'm sold.

Oh, and fuck anybody who hates on Heavy Rain. Go play Diablo or whatever bullshit you kids find entertaining these days. Was that game perfect? Not at all. But HR broke gaming conventions that had been put in place for decades, and it managed to do something truly unique. We need to respect that, not hate on it because we'd rather play some additively shallow toy.

Heavy Rain was terrible, like seriously awful. Character interactions, and the writing were just really bad, to the point of being laughably bad. It really came off like a really bad student film. Though I got to admit Kara was a pretty neat short. I'll wait to see some footage before I pass judgement, but this will most likely be a pass. It'll probably be another poorly written adventure game with less interactivity than other adventure games. If I want to play an adventure game I'll wait for the Walking Dead Episodes and the Double Fine adventure game instead.

@SoundsLike

Or because the last time Cage went into supernatural themes, things got wildly out of hand and we got the third act of Fahrenheit. Probably didn't want to make the same mistake again.

I liked Heavy Rain a lot, and I like what I've played of Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit thus far. Bring it on!

@ctg - The tech is impressive. The writing, however, it still shit.

She goes from "use me as your sex toy" to "I'm human, please don't kill me" in the span of a couple minutes. Her emotion is strong, but the consistency in writing is still absent. Cage clearly doesn't know who Issac Asimov is or watch read anything on transhumanist themes.

Hell, watching Short Circut or Star Trek TNG could lead people to write better "robots with humanity" than this tripe. There's development there. Cage just jumps right to the end.

Heavy Rain was a glorified point-and-click adventure game that not only did nothing to change the genre's conventions, but did one worse by shoehorning players toward the same inevitable answer regardless of choices made. I knew who did it before I got five minutes in.

David Cage thinks he made something unique, but he didn't and I find the assertion that HR was remotely original to be a slap in the face to any studio that excels at point-and-click. Telltale Games can run circles around these incompetent fucks.

@TSP

It's obvious that they were going for a robot becoming human kinda thing with the video. Just much quicker for the sake of length I gues.

@ctg

Heavy Rain wasn't unique, Indigo Prophecy was. Heavy Rain was literally Indigo Prophecy, but worse and with slightly more fleshed out quick-time events.

still haven't played this or LA Noire.

i guess it's good for those who like these type of games :P

Finally something to get excited about! I have but have yet to play Heavy Rain, but I've really enjoyed their other titles immensely.

I cannot wait to hear the sheer amount of pure BS that will come out of David Cage's about his groundbreaking game.....LOL. What an idiot.

I cannot wait to hear the sheer amount of pure BS that will come out of David Cage's about his groundbreaking game.....LOL. What an idiot.

Just speaking for myself, but I'd go so far as to say David Cage's approach to story is almost as bad as Motomu Toriyama's. Both tend to favor emotional manipulation and with while occasionally having a half-decent concept, they flounder it with grade-school level writing, inconsistent story development that's either way too condensed or absurdly drawn out, and massive plot holes.

Raise of hands, who here thought Indigo Prophecy's main character becoming a super zombie and the sudden arrival of cyber demons born of the 1980's internet and the cabal of hobos who kept them in check weren't as deftly handled as they could have been? And how about Final Fantasy XIII making four or five tiers of sentient life for the backstory, including bio-mechanical time-hopping demigods, only to shove them all into an encyclopedia? Guess all that world backstory meant they had no room left for the tiny cast to have any of their own. I don't think Square can use the "But making HD graphics is so haaard..!" excuse for that one.

I found Heavy Rain to be less cringe worthy with the language set to Portuguese. I guess shit voice acting is harder to spot when ya dont speak the language?

Heavy Rain came along at a time when i was burnt out on RPGs, shooters, and sandboxes and i loved it.

The amount of unchecked hatred leveled at the game continues to astound me.

Personally I'm more excited about the ridiculous bullshit that Cage will get to spew I'n hyping said games. I thing him and Moleneux need to team up and "forever change the face of gaming" .

Echoing a surprising (to me) number of people here, Heavy Rain was excellent. I'm absolutely on board with whatever Cage does next. Can't wait to see it.

I'm sorry, but after Heavy Rain completely led me astray and then dicked me in the butt with plot holes that were left in the game after supernatural elements were taken out of the story mid development I have no desire to ever play a Quantic Dream game again. I let the story in Fahrenheit slide because it was Cage's first strike, but Heavy Rain was just infuriating. Mostly because I bought a PS3 for the game itself and it just pissed me off. Have your fun everyone, I'll watch this from the outside.

I used to like Quantic Dream (loved Omikron) but now I just can care about anything they do.

Indigo Prophecy was a really fun romp. It invoked some of the same feelings of an old school point and click adventure for some reason. Heavy Rain, gah, Heavy Rain. I liked the game. Though it was like a sort of like where I wanted more, and felt I got little. It was an unsatisfying liking. Does that make sense? Nothing about the game made me regret playing it, but there were times I wanted it to go further. To really explore the human aspects surrounding the whole case. There were times where I felt emotions that I had not felt while playing a game, but in saying a comment like that it makes it seem as if the game was deeply profound. Which it wasn't. I mean it was a standard "oh ho ho" crime drama.

To put it another way. Heavy Rain is like meeting a person who you really find intriguing and wish to date, but you are at two different points in your life. Sure you could uproot your life, but that feels like you are giving up a lot. You know it would be easier for the other person to come to you, but they will not bring it up in conversation and only direct the responsibility to you to make the decision. Did that make sense?

I really can't stand Cage as a person (based on almost all his interviews). But in the end that doesn't fucking matter. I don't have to like the person who made my dinner to enjoy it. That said, I quite loved Indigo Prophecy and did not take to Heavy Rain at all. Maybe I've read and soon too many crime stories, but it is was very predictable IMO. Hopefully this new game is something good.

Edit: read and SEEN. Not soon.

Want a good gn style game with well written fun characters and a great story?

Get Ghost Trick. It is on the ds and ios right now.

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Hopefully it's just a ploy to get David Cage on stage and publicly fire him.

Preferably out of a cannon. At least Kaz can have a rolled up newspaper and hit David Cage with it and say No... No more games.

if The Asylum made games out of movie blockbusters, Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophecy would be the products of that studio.
Heavy Rain story and dialogue wasn't even good in video games medium and as "film" it was comparable to softcore porn movies - seriously, it was bad.
i really don't understand why everyone is wetting themselves over Kara demo. it wasn't pretty if you consider the fact that all that is rendered there is one character and some VERY basic and simple machine. i'm guessing that it will end up as Heavy Rain: good looking main character in the world where everything looked like upscalled ps2 game that was blurred out. some of the Heavy Rain graphics was atrocious like a car chase - i played Deadly Premonition before HR and the car models and overall graphics at that scene looked the same in both games.
storywise it was simply ripping of SF movies in a very bad way.

If Quantic Dream are going to make another movie, they should totally team up with Quentin Dupieux! If their next game is anything like this: http://vimeo.com/42578780 I'm going to deep-throat Cage's cock and balls I swear to God.

@KirbyMcDope,
isn't this the guy that made Rubber? i loved that film.

I hope Cage gets this right because I think Heavy Rain was an interesting game 'in theory'.

Is he going to revolutionize stale dialogue, C grade plot and lack of player input?

i never played the first thing they did.....

Quantic Dream is very overrated. People are just so caught up in experiencing something vaguely new that they can't recognize how full of plot holes, characters acting against their own motivations, and just generic and poorly written Heavy Rain is.

Yes those quick time set pieces were exciting, but they fall flat when you realise you can just sit the controller down for the first 3/4 of the game and be fine. I was actively trying to kill a character once, and it just doesn't happen. At the same time, I do understand that throwing the player to a game over screen would ruin the pacing and immersion of the game, so I don't exactly know what the solution is. Perhaps the game could have found a way to continue on without characters who died.

Actually that sounds good now that I think about it. Anyways, I hope their next game is good, but I'm not expecting much.