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Q&A Contest: Why haven't you bought a gaming notebook yet? photo

It's Black Friday.  So why aren't you out destroying your finances and stampeding over children for a gaming notebook? Oh, don't care for them at all?  Do tell! 

In celebration of post-turkey genocide day I propose a contest. I'd like you to help me with my homework and, in exchange, I'll give away a brand new game of your choice.  I also promise to go slap around the industry for you.

As you may know I moonlight as an author on WePC, an Intel-sponsored discussion community built in the hopes of creating a crowd-sourced gaming computer that doesn't suck: One which I'm pushing to feature user-swappable video card and components so you can stop feeling less raped when they become paperweights after four years.  There's a ton of good ideas floating around there -- if you're inspired to contribute a notebook concept we'd love to have you.

This week I'd like to try something different.  I'd like to run a quick survey and give away your choice of new releases: Chrono Trigger, The Last Remnant, Little Big Planet, Mirror's Edge, Left 4 Dead, or Gears of War 2 -- your pick and platform of choice.  Here's the question:

There are already so many quality gaming notebooks in the market ... so why haven't you bought one yet? 

If you do own a gaming notebook you can also enter to win -- just let us know which model/make you picked up and what sealed the deal for you in the comments below.   I'll choose three random winners early next week and also post my findings on WePC. Good luck!


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KamikazeTutor's Avatar
KamikazeTutor at 11/28/2008 10:32
Put me on the not enough money or too expensive category.
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mix at 11/28/2008 10:34
Personally for me price is a huge issue as well as the potential to upgrade/future proof.

I can get a desk top PC for around 1/2 the price of said notebook PC that will also outperform it and I can upgrade parts of the desktop one so it's life span spreads out much, much further. So the PC in my eyes has a better cost/usage ratio than a notebook pc.
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PhazonYoshi at 11/28/2008 10:36
No mouse. Ickier keyboard.

That's basicly it, because if I buy an external mouse and keyboard, they are no longer portable, so I may as well get a much cheaper desktop.

So yeah guys, use your industry thought-powers to come up with a way to stick a (usable) gaming mouse into the laptop, preferably without me just buying one and sticking it in the USB port, and have a good keyboard, and I'm sold.
I also want to upgrade it later, without buying a new one. That's kinda a biggie.
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garison at 11/28/2008 10:37
I haven't bought a high end gaming notebook yet, just because I can play many of the same games on my Xbox and PS3. The consoles are much cheaper than a gaming PC, and they last a heck of a lot longer to, because you don't have to upgrade the components every few months.
sickNasty's Avatar
sickNasty at 11/28/2008 10:37
I have a desktop that has been working fine for about 6 years. I also do all of my gaming on my 360.
boxmyth's Avatar
boxmyth at 11/28/2008 10:39
I'd pick one up if Valve ever endorsed one. Hell, Valve should just get into the hardware business and put their mastery of all-things-ever to good use there too.
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Sam Spectre at 11/28/2008 10:39
The only reason I opted out of getting a notebook was because I could get a better all around system for less by just getting a desktop. If you're going to make a good gaming laptop it has to be the same price as a desktop with the same specs. That shit will sell.
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MrSadistic at 11/28/2008 10:42
There are several reasons, including price, but for me the main reason why I haven't bought a gaming notebook is that I don't believe they are adequate for me if I want to "game" on the go. The keyboard, and "mouse" I suppose are partially to blame, as the layout feels awkward for me. I've also seen some pretty bulky gaming notebooks which is another reason that has turned me away.
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sicPOS at 11/28/2008 10:43
Price is a big factor. I can't afford to buy something that will pretty much be useless in 3 or 4 years. With a desktop I can upgrade individual parts for an affordable price instead of having to buy something completely new and sell my first born.

A notebook would be nice though. Easier to game at friends places.
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CyanideBlues at 11/28/2008 10:43
I don't have a gaming notebook because I lack wireless interwebs.
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Cataract at 11/28/2008 10:46
A large part of the reason I'm hesitant to make the jump from desktop to notebook is the fact that I'm constantly worrying about it breaking. Although I'm not the clumsiest of people, accidents do happen, and I don't want to be out of a ton of money for a tiny accident. With desktops, it's much more simple. You buy one, put it in a spot in a room, and connect it to the wall. The performance is better than that of a notebook, but at the end of the day, you're still bound by cables from the wall. The big reason I want to have a notebook is to be able to bring my computer with me, especially when I go to class, but that same reason why I want to bring it is the same reason thats holding me back: I'm too afraid that I'll break it and be out of a thousand dollar investment.
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Jonathan Holmes at 11/28/2008 10:46
Does this mean we can use the "fizzle" word in our header images now, as long as it's branded on a snoopy iron-on?

AWESOME!
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JacksonDane at 11/28/2008 10:48
The swappable components is the biggest factor, but thorough testing is also crucial. I have an XPS 1530 and it's great except for a problem with sound stuttering due to issues with the integrated sound getting interference from the wifi card (it's not just me either, it's a big complaint on message boards). Something that could have been picked up and fixed by thorough testing, not just testing to see if the hardware works, but if it works correctly.
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KamikazeTutor at 11/28/2008 10:48
Also, the fact that if something breaks, it's not as easy to replace as with desktops.
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ElToine at 11/28/2008 10:49
The reason I don't and never will is because for the same money, I bought a better, efficient, apple macbook pro. And it can play games better than most gaming notebooks anyway w/ bootcamp or Crossover Games
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-PL- at 11/28/2008 10:50
Well, I kind of already have a "budget" gaming notebook... It's got a Geforce Go 7600 in there, it can play WoW and HL2 with no sweat (but what can't nowadays). It chokes on Oblivion though, so it's not the best thing out there.

The reason I don't own a high end gaming notebook is because: A.) They're too expensive. B.) You can get more power for less money with a desktop PC. C.) I do all my gaming at home anyway, and maybe a pocket-sized portable for when I'm on the go (like a DS or PSP).
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Brilliam at 11/28/2008 10:54
A gaming laptop will never be as good and as cheap as a gaming desktop. Miniaturization time and costs will ensure that's true for a long time, anyway. Plus, I like my desktop being my "base" in my bedroom-- I don't need it to be smaller or more mobile. I have two laptops, neither gaming-quality, and no urge to game on them. It's like asking why I don't have a portable DVD player-- because I want to go home and watch them on my couch, at my tv. It's a lifestyle choice, I guess.

Also, poor.
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zgerhard at 11/28/2008 10:54
I can build a relatively fast game computer for under 700$. Look at a notebook for gaming and you're spending 3,000$. My 700$ computer i can continue to upgrade, but my 3,000$ notebook is essentially worthless as time goes on. Besides - I don't "game on the go." The only time I would ever consider buying a gaming notebook is if I attended LANs or went over to my friends house for gaming sessions, but I have no friends who like games so I have the internet for that.
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moominsean at 11/28/2008 10:54
i used to have a sony notebook, but it was super slow. haven't really looked at newer models.
John B's Avatar
John B at 11/28/2008 10:55
Because they're too expensive and are nowhere near as upgradeable or repairable as a desktop PC.
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xMalachi at 11/28/2008 10:57
I would have to be in agreement that a gaming PC is going to come out a lot cheaper than a gaming notebook. Also, the fact that I can also upgrade my video card and such on a desktop appeals more to me and gives more longevity in the life of my pc.
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bassbeast at 11/28/2008 10:58
Restrictive screen size (why do I want to game on a 15" screen when my 50" plasma TV or 24" widescreen LCD monitor is available?), and certainly zero value prospect. Just because I can take it anywhere doesn't mean I should. Besides, gaming notebooks with any real power weight a ton, have crappy battery life and as you mentioned, zero upgradability.

If you're doing real, hardcore PC gaming, chances are you're someone who is building their own machine. If it were possible to really create a user-swappable laptop, I'm sure Dell, HP and Gateway would all have enormous fits.
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StumpFreak at 11/28/2008 10:59
No real need. I just built a new gaming PC in February that I can make incremental upgrades to along the way, don't have to worry about another company doing the assembly and just fits my needs better. I'm hardly ever on the road or going somewhere else for more than small periods of time.
KnuxSonic's Avatar
KnuxSonic at 11/28/2008 10:59
Haven't bought a gaming laptop simply because the upgrade processes consists of throwing it away and buying a new one.
Scrixx's Avatar
Scrixx at 11/28/2008 10:59
Put me in the Battery Life Sucks Category.
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tehAnt1the1s1s at 11/28/2008 11:00
They are too expensive and too heavy. I'd much rather stick with my desktop.
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sexycommando at 11/28/2008 11:02
Most gaming notebooks are huge and heavy, i.e. 15" or larger. I mean have you seen those multiple-gpu gaming laptop monstrosities? They're essentially desktop replacements, while also being more expensive, noisier, hotter, and less powerful than gaming desktops. If a gaming laptop is so cumbersome and large, and cannot last even 1 hour of gaming on batteries, it will inevitably be tethered to a desk and power outlet. In that case, why on earth wouldn't you just buy/build a gaming desktop instead?

It's gotten to a point where any laptop with a discrete graphics card can be considered a "gaming laptop", even if it can barely play any modern games at even medium settings. And even then, discrete mobile graphics processors don't always work properly (remember the NVidia mobile gpu overheating debacle?). My 13" Sony Vaio with an NVidia GeForce Go 7400 has an overheating problem where it will just power off if I play a game for more than 30 minutes (and I sent it to Sony twice for repairs). And the Geforce Go 7400 was pretty weak to begin with.

It's just disappointing to see that any "gaming" laptop that's 14" or smaller (and therefore at least somewhat portable) has extremely weak graphics options, and overheating problems as well. Until someone builds a 13" or smaller gaming laptop that has a genuinely powerful gpu, decent battery life for gaming, and does not overheat and roast my nuts, I will not buy a gaming laptop.

BTW Niero, I'm really glad you're pushing for user-swappable video cards and components. I've been wishing for that feature for years.
NegFactor's Avatar
NegFactor at 11/28/2008 11:02
- Flat keyboards.
- No standard mouse.
- Far too small of a screen size for my tastes.
- Most of my PC gaming is old-school anyway.
- Finally, I like my normal-sized computer just fine.
- Bonus: TOO EXPENSIVE.
Demtor's Avatar
Demtor at 11/28/2008 11:03
zgerhard said it before I could, but he's right. My 800$ desktop runs Crysis/Fallout 3 (I can't think of any other system breaking PC games) on max settings. So I just see notebooks as irrelevant since I enjoy having a desktop instead. Mostly because of my kick ass monitor/speakers along with having the keyboard/mouse. The controls just feel better in a looser, more traditional setting.
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4knuckleshuffle at 11/28/2008 11:03
I'm too broke.
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ScottyG at 11/28/2008 11:04
The big reason is that I really don't like most gaming on a laptop. I'd still want seperate speakers/headphones, monitor, keyboard and mouse. So, that just leaves the box itself, and it's MUCH cheaper to buy a gaming desktop than a laptop.

Another reason is yeah, the fact that all you can really change is the amount of memory. They don't necessarily have to be as flexible with upgrades, but at least the basic stuff like hard drives and video cards would be nice.

Oh, and is there any chance of that Snoopy patch being included with the prize game? Heck, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wouldn't be opposed to getting that instead of the prize game. ^_^
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n0brein at 11/28/2008 11:04
I already own a 1 year old macbook which is perfect for school (I mainly use the adobe stuff and processing), but it's completely useless for gaming since it has no real graphics card.
I can't really afford a second one and I don't want to mess with windows since I'm used to mac os and ubuntu
Niero's Avatar
Niero at 11/28/2008 11:05
Seems like price is the top factor, by far
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casualweaponry at 11/28/2008 11:05
Lack of upgrades is a deal killer for me. With the graphics arms race that takes place with high end game/graphics cards, there's no excuse for some sort of modular upgrade system.

I really liked the Alienware laptop I owned. It just seemed obsolete after a year because I couldn't upgrade th graphics card.
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Dudemullet at 11/28/2008 11:06
I definitely think price is a hurdle BUT say you have the money whatever.. I would NEVER consider a gaming laptop because its just TOO GOD DAMNED BIG to be carrying around. That and battery life is shit, if you were to play on the road WHERE THE HELL are you gonna put your mousepad ?!?!

And if you're gonna have to be connected to a power source, doesn't that already mean you're kicking "portable" gaming in the balls ?
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Brian Keljore at 11/28/2008 11:07
My answer is two fold: student loan repayment, and the horrible economic situation has made it difficult for me to get a well paying job that would make use of my degree. Can't buy a gaming notebook when you can barely afford to eat.
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Rabite at 11/28/2008 11:08
Various reasons for me.

I don't want to spend the money on a new computer until I have to (same reason I still have the same $100 non-HD TV from 4-6 years ago).
I don't travel enough for it to be worthwhile.
My portables do everything I want, are lighter, easier to conceal, and the battery lasts longer for if I ever do travel.

Though I really do miss having a laptop. It's nice to be able to fire up a game in a room besides where my computer is.
Nukkus's Avatar
Nukkus at 11/28/2008 11:10
When you're running a quad core pc, with 8gb of ram, 2tb of storage, and two BFG 9800GX2 1024mb cards, what the HELL is the point of owning a silly little notepad? Not to mention when you build your own computers like I do, you tend not to trust anything prebuilt. If I can't build it myself COMPLETELY from the ground up(and I'm not talking about swappable components), then I don't want it. Building your own computer gives you an awesome sense of pride, and not to mention it puts you several ranks over the dude next door who "just bought an awesome Dell super gaming computer!"
Clarke's Avatar
Clarke at 11/28/2008 11:11
I saw a good one for $800 but they sold out. Maybe I'll get one for Christmas.
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agius at 11/28/2008 11:13
I lack a laptop at all - mine exploded in April, and I'm still trying to get back to real profitability. I want to get a Macbook pro - they now have gaming-capable hardware, the ability to run XP in parallel, and the workhorse stable environment that is OSX. Maybe if I get a Christmas bonus.
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IceMax at 11/28/2008 11:16
aside from the fact that a despise laptops, i do not need crappier version of my desktop PC that can play games just fine. and i wanted to play games on the go, i would us my DS, since i normally only play short games when I'm out and about, and waiting for a laptop to boot, then launch the game would take entirely too long for me.
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Pyroph at 11/28/2008 11:16
Price in terms of what it can get you compared to a desktop. I am fond of using laptops now after owning a mid range one for a while, certainly nowhere close to high end gaming though.
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---AMARU--- at 11/28/2008 11:17
Don't got any dough
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e-roder at 11/28/2008 11:17
i needed to get a lap top for school, so i picked up a dell precision m90; way over priced and the video card fan blew out within a month or two. still, the graphics card is a horse (if you can get the right drivers), i've got 2 gigs of ram, and a dual core 2gighz processor. with a 17inch screen to boot, this boat anchor works just fine for whatever i want to play. and it's easy to take back and forth to college, which is nice.
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thisissami at 11/28/2008 11:20
price is definitely the biggest factor for me. why should i spend $4000 on a gaming laptop if i can build my own desktop with better specs for a third or half of that price? especially when in 2 years i can make my desktop top of the line just by replacing the video card or the processor.

also, another reason would probably be that i stick to consoles for my gaming and am more of a mac person when it comes to computing.
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LostSoulDX at 11/28/2008 11:21
I don't have a gaming laptop yet. I've been looking into buying one off and on for the last 2-3 years. I definitely would like to see one where you can switch out the video card and such easily. It would make a gaming laptop even more appealing to me.
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jayzilla6 at 11/28/2008 11:21
Well, for me it's not really a cash factor...just seems that all the games I want to play are console games. Seriously, who'd want to play Rock Band on a PC?
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Tactix at 11/28/2008 11:22
Price is also a factor for me. I've never been a PC gamer mainly because I can't afford the money for a nice computer that will run the games I may want to play.

In my case, I wonder, why struggle with video cards and memory and all that jazz when I can just buy a console that I know will play whatever game I put in it. I had experience a long time ago where I bought Riven for the PC, but my computer couldnt play it. I waited basically a year until my parents had enough money to get a new computer at which point I finally played the game :(
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zeroword at 11/28/2008 11:22
Five reasons:
1. Price - Too damn expensive
2. Planned Obsolescence - Paperweight in 4 years as you say
3. Size - Too damn big for my preference in laptops
4. Weight - Too damn heavy for portability
5. Inferior to a cheaper gaming desktop that I build myself
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Drakonikarma at 11/28/2008 11:23
My reasoning is because I just don't have the money. Not that they are too expensive, it's simply a complete lack of expendable income for anything. Also, if I get a really good gaming PC then I will be seduced by the possibility of torrenting every single game EVAR so a crappy PC keeps my legality in check.
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