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Punk kid hits people with car doors, Grand Theft Auto blamed photo

You know the drill by now. Some filthy little sh*thead decides to be antisocial and delinquent, then tries to dodge accountability by blaming videogames, something he knows will deflect the blame in the eyes of reactionary, out-of-touch adults. Such is the case of Maryland teen Nathan Hartley, who rammed two kids with the door of a speeding car, and is accusing Grand Theft Auto of teaching him how to "door-check."

Naturally, the mainstream press jumped on the story, basically making up "facts" about GTA: "In the popular game Grand Theft Auto, players drive virtual cars and intentionally hit pedestrians by smacking them with open car doors. It's called "door checking," and prosecutors say 18-year-old Nathan Hartley decided to try it with a real car last summer."

Uh ... yeah. I don't remember that ever being in GTA, but I'm sure the fine folks at WTOP-FM know more about the game than I do.

Interestingly, PS3Attitude contacted Hartley's prosecutor John Mark McDonald, who confirmed that the defendent tried to blame games, but that such silly claims were never deemed valid. Despite the inane nonsense spouted by WTOP-FM, the prosecution hadn't considered videogames to be a factor at all. You can hit the jump for McDonald's response to this chicanery.

The suggestion came through the Defendant. I have never seen Grand Theft Auto, and had never heard of ‘door-checking' until this case. It was a defense he set forth in attempting to waive his case back to the juvenile court. The State did not introduce the game into the prosecution of this case. It added nothing. My comments on the game were to rebut his reasoning for doing what he did.

I did not suggest that the game was to blame for his conduct, and would not. The blame lies entirely with Nathan Hartley. I stated as much in court. As I indicated, I have never even seen the game and I was not passing any judgment on the game. I was simply arguing why I felt his justification was not valid.

Nathan was trying to get the case bumped back down to juvenile court, but was unsuccessful and has been sentenced to seven years in jail.


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JsunKW's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:08
JsunKW
I actually know who this punk is and he definitely got what he deserved. If anything he should be locked up forever.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:09
Dexter345
Sounds like a win for people who are sick of hearing stories about kids blaming video games and getting off with a lesser penalty. It's still obnoxious to hear things like door-checking and getting points for killing police officers and/or prostitutes; these things don't exist in the games, and anybody who did any sort of research on it (as in, ask somebody who knows) would figure that out.
solidgoomba's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:09
solidgoomba
Heh, time to learn that unlike in GTA you don't just pop out of jail a few seconds later. Maybe future GTA games should have a prison element to train these idiots how to be the best prison bitch possible.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:13
GoldenGamerXero
Yeah kid and Super Mario Bros. MADE you take magic mushrooms... I'm glad he got what he had coming hell if I was a judge I would have given him even more grief just for mentioning that! Imagine if the judge was a gamer! That would be awesome! =D
tohdom's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:19
tohdom
Because of such things we will probably never see another Carmageddon game :((
Roager's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:21
Roager
Wait, why do these stories come to Dtoid? Do we enjoy bitching about the media that much? I mean, really, anything reasonable to say about this kind of thing has already been said, several thousand times over.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:35
Jack Maverick
JOURNALISM, Roager. Actually, I still get amused when I read stories like these.
rpbowlinggod's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:38
rpbowlinggod
WTF, a lawyer with a little common sense? Soon there'll be dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria
dgschrei's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 15:39
dgschrei
@Roager
It's sort of Jim's personal crusade.
It started with Jack Thompson and now he reports on every little piece of bullshit someone tries to throw against gaming.
He also seems to be in charge of everything containing pedophilia that get's put up on Dtoid.

Now how awesome would that be if we put that next to his job description.
Jim Sterling
Reviews Editor and
Pedo Crusader
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 16:11
Aurain
Image Caption is wrong.

GTA cannot kill that what does not exist.
Mista Smegheneghan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 16:12
Mista Smegheneghan
Good to see some people still have sense in this world.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 16:16
Im OK
Oh man I just realized why video games are getting blamed for obesity! You see, in The Sims, if you make a Sim eat when they're not hungry, they get fat! So, because you can do it in a video game, it necessarily means that this is why people do it in real life! It totally makes sense now!

Except that... yeah, what the hell is this "door-checking" bullshit? I don't remember that being in GTA either. So, yeah, it looks like this is another case of someone making shit up whole cloth that isn't actually in the video game in question in the hopes of bloohooohuurrrr. Like the whole "you get points for killing prostitutes" shit from a while back.

I've said for years now that it was only a matter of time until some douchehat criminal intentionally blames a video game for his assbaggy behavior, knowing that in most cases people will eat that shit up with a spoon and ask for seconds, and it's been happening more and more lately (often successfully, I might add). Luckily though, it appears that, in this one particular instance at least, the tolerance for made-up bullshit was pretty low and this fuckball got what he deserved.

Also, why does it seem that every time Jim posts something these days, someone simply has to crawl all up his ass about it? It's past being tiresome.
Shael's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 16:21
Shael
Somewhere, right at this moment, Jack Thompson is touching himself.
n1k0l4's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 16:52
n1k0l4
There is no ''door-checking'' in any GTA.
There are no ''points'' in GTA.
GameraTheGreat's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 16:54
GameraTheGreat
Saw this on Kotaku also.....Lying sack of shit.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 17:22
Monodi
Donkey Kong Country thaught me to throw explosives to my friends. And I love it.
liam12360's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 17:29
liam12360
You only need to look at Miniclip for free violence "training"
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 18:04
Jon B
Ah, but you see guys, that's the wonder of gaming! A door gets stuck open as a bug? It's totally designed like that so you can carry out your evil fantasies?
Arrange bikes into a swastika? Developer's fault for letting you have that much freedom. They clearly promote nazis.
Full male nudity? Totally racist, since it's a white penis.

And don't get me started on the "innocent" relationships in Persona. The devs TOTALLY intended people to make hentais out of underage students. It's ban dodging the eroge laws there.

Not that I've ever looked at any P4 hentai. Obviously.
mabman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 18:18
mabman
just makes me wanna play the gay tony dlc more
morbid-82-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 18:23
morbid-82-
Americans...
Laird's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 19:33
Laird
Let this be a lesson to would-be vehicular assailants. You hit someone with a car and you'll get hit with a train in prison!
Jinky Williams's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 19:33
Jinky Williams
@morbid-82-: Yes?
MellowBunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 21:11
MellowBunny
He's eighteen years old! Not some dumbass teenager,but an adult. He knew what he was doing and blaming it on a video game is just sad.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 21:20
brainderailment
Wow, this actually makes me wish GTA4 DID have door checking. Let's hope it comes next go around.
dapperdanG's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/25/2009 23:02
dapperdanG
@tohdom
Seriously, this guy should have gone with the Carmageddon defense or better yet Carmageddon II. This is the best awful game ever.

In all honesty though, GTA has become the brand name of bad behavior, basically like Kleenex, every time some one does something bad, it must be that damn GTA, making our kids so angry!
As a counter to this story though, maybe it's a testament to the poor news coverage in the LA area, but I hardly ever hear about these stories through mainstream news outlets, they only seem to grow in outrage through gaming websites as everyone starts to get defensive over the medium. I too can't stand hearing these lame defense scenarios, but we have to make sure we don't turn it into a situation of protesting too much.
Arkhon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2009 00:27
Arkhon
GTA is just Catcher in the Rye for the new millenium. I wonder what the next thing will be.
The Prodigal Son's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2009 04:51
The Prodigal Son
Well, GTA made me kick that kid in the balls if I ever see him on the street...
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2009 11:33
Cahuatijo
one of the pillars of this dumb problem is that videogame companies have no balls. If they did, they would simply smack the news sources with a lawsuit for slander or defamation because these shitty reporters are not doing their job properly and reporting actually, proveably, false facts. Personally, if I am in trouble with the law and I can do something to deflect that, I will blame videogames left and right, I don't give a shit, if it is legally going to get me out of trouble, or into less trouble, I will do whatever I can, including blaming videogames and my mother for not aborting me. But if a videogame company rises up against these news reporters and actually manges to win a case, then my argument for blaming videogames will be weaker and maybe not such a good idea anymore.
Laird's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2009 12:49
Laird
Whoa, hold on there, partner. Calling news orgs on their bullshit is a good idea. Extorting them isn't. I don't think that game companies would want to look like money grubbing fascists (Scientologists will probably sue them back for biting off their style). And even if they did; I, for one, don't want to see Eidos suing Destructoid for reporting on their alleged review score shenanigans or something like that.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/27/2009 15:10
Holyetheline
@Roager

They're just keeping the community informed of anything video game related. Even if it's something that has been done in the past (DMC, God of War, Ninja Gaiden) Bayonetta will still get coverage on this site.... so don't be surprised to see multiple posts about video game related crimes either. Altough similar, I find that each story is slightly different while still being just as entertaining as the last.... The same thing could be said about game genres.

Also, door checking confirmed for GTAV!
The Kojukinator's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/27/2009 16:29
The Kojukinator
I thought the argument "videogames made me do it" was shut down after "The Lemmings Report" was published (which is a totally real report that shows kids were not influenced to commit suicide after playing Lemmings).
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