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The word "experts" immediately makes me roll my eyes because more often than not it's a bunch of people who call themselves "experts" while spewing bullshit of something they know barely anything about.
Then again there are truly experts out there so you never know.
Then again there are truly experts out there so you never know.
They swapped out Leland Yee because he's a living reminder of how banning sales of "ultraviolent" games was deemed unconstitutional, and they want people who pay to get in to not think they already know the answer to the question posed in the title of the panel.
Your link for "this episode of constructoid" just linked me back to this article, that supposed to happen...
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Agreed.
I wish I could be there to at least argue for the case of Violent games. I could care less if "pron" games were banned, since it paints women as objects, and there's enough media outlets for it already(books, movies, etc.). Plus, people can have sex in real life, they shouldn't have to turn to video games for it.
Anyway, games are not to blame and anyone to think otherwise has a problem. Parents need to quit being lazy and man up. Take responsibility for their kids and make other parents aware of the faults they have for shit happening behind their back. The only reason I played games my parents wouldn't have let me play was because my friends parents didn't know and they had Mortal Kombat on SNES for their kids to play.
There are cases like this everywhere(some vary in scope and magnitude), and the only ones to blame are the parents. Game developers don't make these games with kids in minds, they make them for consenting adults. People who can USUALLY discern right from wrong and have a stronger understanding of reality and consequences.
Agreed.
I wish I could be there to at least argue for the case of Violent games. I could care less if "pron" games were banned, since it paints women as objects, and there's enough media outlets for it already(books, movies, etc.). Plus, people can have sex in real life, they shouldn't have to turn to video games for it.
Anyway, games are not to blame and anyone to think otherwise has a problem. Parents need to quit being lazy and man up. Take responsibility for their kids and make other parents aware of the faults they have for shit happening behind their back. The only reason I played games my parents wouldn't have let me play was because my friends parents didn't know and they had Mortal Kombat on SNES for their kids to play.
There are cases like this everywhere(some vary in scope and magnitude), and the only ones to blame are the parents. Game developers don't make these games with kids in minds, they make them for consenting adults. People who can USUALLY discern right from wrong and have a stronger understanding of reality and consequences.
Efffects on video games on children probably depends on the person...I personally sometimes wish as a kid I didn't play video games so much...while I did enjoy the time...I missed out on much.
I just think parents need to watch what games their kids play and make sure that the child understands that it's just a game and that they should not be doing those things in real life....also limit the playing time too much gaming isn't good for kids.
I just think parents need to watch what games their kids play and make sure that the child understands that it's just a game and that they should not be doing those things in real life....also limit the playing time too much gaming isn't good for kids.
Eventually the California fault line will remove 'frisco from the mainland USA, and then hopefully they'll be someone else's problem.
I'd like to break in there and say: At 5, I was playing 2600, at 8, I was playing Master System, at 12, I was playing on my Amiga 500, at 15, I was playing on my PC. ALL WITHOUT ANY LIMITS, with the understanding that I would continue to get good grades. Guess what? I got good grades, went to college (while playing Diablo 1 and Fallout as much as I could!) and have a nice house, a wife, a nice salary, a car, and am soon to be a dad. How do you explain that, oh elitist panel? So to those liberal ignoramuses trying to impose their progressive vision on EVERYONE instead of minding their own business and looking after their OWN kids, I say: GET LOST! Go good parenting, go personal responsibility, go liberty!
And yes, many of my games were VIOLENT. Great stress relief. Prevented me from breaking someone's face in real life.
I should be fair... there are also a lot of conservative religious ignoramuses trying to push their idea of good parenting and morality on everyone, NOT just the progressive libs. Sorry about that!
"Experts" and "Common Sense" two words that have basically lost there meaning to me within the last couple of months with how often and loosely that they're thrown around. "Experts" especially loses meaning the more people talk about video games and whether or not they should be banned.
While I will admit that games these days can be overly violent, it doesn't mean they should be banned. The ESRB already does a good job of regulating the sales and it's already against the law to sell a game rated M or higher to a child under 17.
Another word that bothers me is "pornographic". This word is one that I personally don't hear as often, but it was quite a popular word to throw at video games not to long ago. (What was the name of that group again? Equality Now?) Anyway, pornographic games aren't even that abundant in the mainstream market because they're not allowed to be. Be it social or government laws, pornographic games just aren't something you want to advertise and I don't believe a child can find one unless they're actively looking for boobies.
While we're on the subject of M rated games. The ESRB recently released that chart that revealed only 5% of games being M rated, they're not exactly saturating the market, but they're sure as hell making a big deal about themselves.
Although, really, when it comes to whether or not video games have an effect on their children should use their brain and realize that they have the biggest effect on their little babies, not some magic box that seeps violent thoughts into their tiny brains. The REAL common sense, which obviously isn't common anymore is to just unplug the video game system and not let your children play6\ those games in the first place.
While I will admit that games these days can be overly violent, it doesn't mean they should be banned. The ESRB already does a good job of regulating the sales and it's already against the law to sell a game rated M or higher to a child under 17.
Another word that bothers me is "pornographic". This word is one that I personally don't hear as often, but it was quite a popular word to throw at video games not to long ago. (What was the name of that group again? Equality Now?) Anyway, pornographic games aren't even that abundant in the mainstream market because they're not allowed to be. Be it social or government laws, pornographic games just aren't something you want to advertise and I don't believe a child can find one unless they're actively looking for boobies.
While we're on the subject of M rated games. The ESRB recently released that chart that revealed only 5% of games being M rated, they're not exactly saturating the market, but they're sure as hell making a big deal about themselves.
Although, really, when it comes to whether or not video games have an effect on their children should use their brain and realize that they have the biggest effect on their little babies, not some magic box that seeps violent thoughts into their tiny brains. The REAL common sense, which obviously isn't common anymore is to just unplug the video game system and not let your children play6\ those games in the first place.
ESRB is your friend. Know it. Use it. Be involved as a parent. This whole argument is pointless as the issue isn't how can the government protect my kids from video games. The real issue here is how can parents ignore their kids and not have them turn out to be messed up slimeballs/drug addicts/losers. Say it with me. The government will not raise your kids.
If it is not video games, it will be dirty magazines or movies, Dungeons and Dragons, violent movies, etc... Honestly there is a time and place for just about everything in life. Eventually your kids should know some of the basics of sex and understand what violent acts do happen in the world today. They don't need to know at age 6 but by 18 a person should know a number of varied things so that when they step out the door or turn on the news it doesn't tramatize them.
What I would love to ask them is which is more tramatizing being exposed to a violent/pornographic video game or being ignored by your parents? Stop trying to blame one part of a larger issue for the problems of the world.
If it is not video games, it will be dirty magazines or movies, Dungeons and Dragons, violent movies, etc... Honestly there is a time and place for just about everything in life. Eventually your kids should know some of the basics of sex and understand what violent acts do happen in the world today. They don't need to know at age 6 but by 18 a person should know a number of varied things so that when they step out the door or turn on the news it doesn't tramatize them.
What I would love to ask them is which is more tramatizing being exposed to a violent/pornographic video game or being ignored by your parents? Stop trying to blame one part of a larger issue for the problems of the world.
Hopefully this shuts a few people up and we can start focusing on real problems (though I doubt that will happen).
I use to play GTA 2 & 3 when I was 10 and it had some positive effects on me it helped release some pent up stress and it gave me something to talk about with my friends. Needless to say those games did not make me want to commit acts of violence in real life.
I use to play GTA 2 & 3 when I was 10 and it had some positive effects on me it helped release some pent up stress and it gave me something to talk about with my friends. Needless to say those games did not make me want to commit acts of violence in real life.
Why is this still a fucking debate? Do those anti-video game people really have nothing else to do with their lifes? I mean seriously, just shutup and let people play games.
Sure theres some people who shouldn't play video games, because there not mentally stable. But they also shouldn't read books, watch movies, or do anything else that might inspire them to commit a crime.
It's up to the guardian to make sure that person doesn't get there hands on any media that could inspire them to do anything potentially dangerous. It's not the industries job to fucking babysit there customers.
And yeah, there will be some idiot who is old enough to buy whatever games he/she wants. Maybe they will commit a crime, and the game is what inspired them to do so. But if a video game inspires you to commit a crime, then you clearly have something wrong with you; and the person should be blamed. Not the game.
Anti-video game people can blow me.
Sure theres some people who shouldn't play video games, because there not mentally stable. But they also shouldn't read books, watch movies, or do anything else that might inspire them to commit a crime.
It's up to the guardian to make sure that person doesn't get there hands on any media that could inspire them to do anything potentially dangerous. It's not the industries job to fucking babysit there customers.
And yeah, there will be some idiot who is old enough to buy whatever games he/she wants. Maybe they will commit a crime, and the game is what inspired them to do so. But if a video game inspires you to commit a crime, then you clearly have something wrong with you; and the person should be blamed. Not the game.
Anti-video game people can blow me.
I heard this guy named Manson killed a bunch of people in California because "Helter Skelter" told him to.
Clearly, we should ban the Beatles. Or at least put age specific labels on all of their CD's.
Think about it people. It's for the children.
Clearly, we should ban the Beatles. Or at least put age specific labels on all of their CD's.
Think about it people. It's for the children.
people from San Fran are by and large shortsighted idiots, who believe that everyone should live and think like they do. These are the same people who want to ban happy meal toys, because they believe it promotes obesity in children. Yes, I'm a native of San Fran.
It bothers me Parents are literally given the tools for free to decide what their children should watch/play.
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