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PTC issues whiny little warning about GTA IV photo

As expected, the upcoming release of Grand Theft Auto IV has seen the scaremongers and crybabies of the world come out in full force to stamp their little feet in protest. Once again, it falls to the Parents Television Council to issue one of its "alerts" to let concerned civilians know that "porn and gratuitous violence through a videogame" is on the way.

Since the first version was released in 1997, the Grand Theft Auto series has lowered the bar for appalling video game content. And now, the game’s fourth installment, Grand Theft Auto IV: Liberty City, is set for release April 29th. We urgently need you to take action today to keep this brutally violent video game out of the hands of children.

As usual, the PTC warbles on about beating prostitutes to death and the overplayed "Hot Coffee" incident which they claim displayed "realistic sex." That pretty much proves that the writer of the warning has not actually had a sexual encounter of his own, if he believes GTA's portrayal is accurate.

The PTC's warning calls on all like-minded loudmouths to pressurize retailers into not stocking the game, or at the very least hiding it from the innocent minds of children who have no idea what violence is and must grow up completely ignorant of everything bad in the world. That way, when they grow up, they will exit their protective social bubbles completely prepared for real life. 

The "alert" also demands that Take-Two ensure the game cannot be modified in any way (an impossible suggestion, as well as a stupid one) and finally uses the inaccurate theories of Dave Grossman to bring up the ridiculous "murder simulator" argument. All in all, a typically ludicrious read that I thoroughly recommend. In fact, you can read it in full, right after the jump.

Since the first version was released in 1997, the Grand Theft Auto series has lowered the bar for appalling video game content. And now, the game’s fourth installment, Grand Theft Auto IV: Liberty City, is set for release April 29th. We urgently need you to take action today to keep this brutally violent video game out of the hands of children.

The Grand Theft Auto games include constant graphic violence and sexual situations. In past versions, players could re-enact having sex with a prostitute, beating her bloody, taking her money and running her over with a car; shooting at police officers; and, by using a code easily accessible on many internet sites, having a realistic sexual encounter on screen -- complete with audio commentary. This modification in the 2005 game was not disclosed to the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB) when they classified the game M, which carried a suggested age of 17 and up for purchase.

The PTC is asking its members to call on all major retailers:

1) To reconsider any decisions to sell Grand Theft Auto IV: Liberty City.

2) To insist that Take Two Interactive (which publishes the game) and the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) actually review all playable content before issuing a rating for the game. Given Take-Two Interactive's reckless or intentional misleading of the ESRB and ESRB’s failure to respond quickly in the aftermath of the “hot coffee” mod fiasco stemming from the previous edition of GTA, retailers must be reassured, in writing, that the rating given the game is accurate and that there is no hidden or modifiable content in the game.

3) To insist that the game not be displayed in view of minors, and retailers must check photo ID before sales.

4) And finally, to call on retailers not to not market this video game to children.
Legally, stores can not sell children pornographic magazines or handguns – but they can legally sell video games to children that contain pornographic content or that teach children how to kill. In the wake of the horrific school shootings in Paducah, KY, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman , a West Point psychology professor, Professor of Military Science, and an Army Ranger stated:

"Certain types of these (video) games are actually killing simulators, and they teach our kids to kill in much the same say the astronauts on Apollo 11 learned how to fly to the moon without ever leaving the ground... All you have to do is see what kids are being scripted to do (on the video games) to get the high scores, and you know that in a very short period of time, their dark fantasies are going to become your tragic realities.”

We must demand that retailers do their part to keep socially irresponsible games like Grand Theft Auto IV: Liberty City out of the hands of children. Please take action today. And please share this email with every concerned adult you know.

Sincerely,

Timothy F. Winter
President
Parents Television Council







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mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:38
mistic
If a major reseller doesn't sell this game, it'll lose money by the thousands of $ :-)

I mean they also earn loads of money from a blockbuster-game like this :-) It would be stupid not to sell it, it worked for stuff like manhunt simply because nobody gives a shit... but If you don't sell GTA4 your store will be eerily empty on the 29th of april :-)
Dead Movie Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:38
Dead Movie Star
lolololololololololololololololo
FreedomToast's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:38
FreedomToast
i can only imagine the down pour of crazy thats gonna happen on april 29
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:39
EternalDeathSlayer
Wait, the sex in San Andreas wasn't real? WTF? Mind! Blown!

No wonder I've got two children already.
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:40
MaximusPaynicus
1.) They got the name wrong. It's "Grand Theft Auto IV". Nothing about Liberty City.

2.) If Rockstar were lowering the bar for indecency, GTA IV would actually be less indecent than previous installments.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:40
king3vbo
psh, virgin
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:42
Cheeburga
Awesome.jpg
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:42
DeusPayne
I love stupid people. They make me laugh.
DJDuffy 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:42
DJDuffy
The "alert" also demands that Take-Two ensure the game cannot be modified in any way (an impossible suggestion, as well as a stupid one)

This begs the question: With DLC and patches for console titles, who's to say GTA IV couldn't be modified for content, good or bad. Hyprothetically, they could pull the drunk driving gameplay, or on the plus side, add other fun gameplay elements that the PTC will probably be unaware of.
trasparenza's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:44
trasparenza
Well.. not millions more than usual.. The Xbox 360 version just leaked out on the Interwebs, verified and playable :/ bastards
YONKE's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:44
YONKE
facepalm.jpg
Aertyr's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:50
Aertyr
Man, these killing simulators are really doing a swell job of teaching me how to slowly destroy society.
Cartman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:06
Cartman
" I dont like something so im going to whine and stomp my feet to get everyone to think like i do"

This is why i hate people.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:08
Holyetheline
You know... GTA IV is going to be awesome. It's not going to cause me to do anybody any harm. If you're too addicted to GTA to leave the house how the hell are you supposed to go kill someone irl?
alucard1979's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:08
alucard1979
Wow....Timmy, buddy, you should turn that finger around and be a better parent. It is working for me and everyone around me....what's your story?
MuRRaY's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:19
MuRRaY
haha awesome read, will make me enjoy GTAIV that much more ;-)
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:45
Vanilla Gorilla
Let's see...

Grand Theft Auto
Grand Theft Auto II
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories
Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories
Grand Theft Auto IV

Hmm... Yep. 4th installment alright. Nevermind the fact they don't have any credible scientific research as to whether games like Grand Theft Auto corrupt the minds of the gamers who play them, they don't even have the sequential order of the game right.

Sure am glad someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about is crusading for the betterment of the youth!
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:09
Eschatos
People like that are destroying society, not Grand Theft Auto. Poor deluded fuckers.
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:09
naia-the-gamer
I hope there is a special place in hell for the whiny assholes of the PTC. If you go to their website they claim that video games stores can sell AO rated games to children.

I don't even care about GTA, but this is stupid.
mr showtime's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:15
mr showtime
These people are clearly overreacting. The only violent act I've ever picked up from a GTA game was killing hookers and stealing their money.






And I've only done that like twice.
Dadud's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:16
Dadud
IF the PC version isn't modifiable, im going to choke-a-bitch
liam2015's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:56
liam2015
I'm not going to argue. Everyone saw this coming, and I see even more of this crap to emerge well after the games release. Their efforts will be fruitless, and GTA4 will sellion millions of copies within the first day.

Afterwards, we will all go on a violent killing spree, because the game made us familar with an actual firearm. Then beat a hooker, just for kicks.
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 19:29
Orionsaint
Talk to the stupid parents who don't know how to raise their kids. Leave my games alone!
Origim's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 20:11
Origim
I had no idea the PTC was still around. I need to make fun of them on the Nation soon. I had no intention of buying GTA IV, but after reading this I think I will. Stupid fuckers will never learn.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 20:24
TrailerParkJesus
But.. they haven't stopped comic books or rock n roll or hula hoops yet.
kevvo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 23:48
kevvo
Can I parent my own kids please..... thank you very much
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 00:35
Boolean
"has lowered the bar for appalling video game content"

Wouldn't it be more correct to say raised the bar? If it's lowering the bar it would be setting the expectation lower. People will say something like "You’ve really lowered the bar for the human race this time" because they have lowered the expectation. In this case the expectation for appalling video game content should be higher, so they should say they have raised the bar.

Idiots.
Veck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 01:07
Veck
Uh, wouldn't the best way to protect the children be not to sell them this game?

I love how the ratio of outrage towards a game directly corresponds to its success, and subsequently becomes even more redundant because millions of copies will be sold anyway. Good use of time, moralist twat-faces!
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 03:30
JustLikeBuck
I'm not sure where the PTC gets their fearful attitude. But that's what happens when you have children to one side, and parents on the other.

DO SOME DAMNED PARENTING, YOU MORONS!
solarmystic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 04:39
solarmystic
Everytime a GTA game comes out the moral police and their confederates come out in full force... the shops keep on selling 'em, and people keep on buying 'em..

When are they gonna learn that their efforts will always be in vain? Moralistic overtones will always take a backseat to Capitalism in the great US of A!!!
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 04:49
BlackSunEmpire
WTF is a television council??
UglyDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 05:13
UglyDuck
"And finally, to call on retailers not to not market this video game to children."

In other words, what they really want is for the game to be marketed to children. Yay for society!
SubOrbital's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 05:49
SubOrbital
Retarded. Very.
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 05:58
brad drac
If ignorance is bliss, he must be one of the happiest people alive.

->Vanilla Gorilla: You forgot GTA london.
Orochi Borgieman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 07:58
Orochi Borgieman
They're parents and teachers. WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK!
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 08:16
fetusmilk
i remember learning about violence in history class. and now i must quench my lust for blood by playing murder simulators.
The Bozz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 09:57
The Bozz
I tried to post a comment on the blog, but the cowards restricted the comments to team members only. Talk about being open to dialogue.
Yuphrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 10:46
Yuphrum
i find it funny how they assume the "dry humping" in GTA San Andreas can be viewed as "realistic".
They're all virgins
DryvBy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 14:26
DryvBy
And EDS, we're still wondering how a virgin could make that happen!
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 21:20
TheStripe
I wonder how many more times it will take these poor, sheltered, fearful people to realize that the more statements they issue about a game, the bigger it's going to be. They're inadvertently giving free press to their arch-nemeses.
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