"As for people complaining about used games your right you wont be able to trade your games in for $2 so they can be resold for $10~$20."
Good job on missing the point there. People aren't worried about not being able to sell their games, they're worried about not being able to BUY used games, because used games are a cheaper alternative to full-priced new games.
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Fucking bravo, dude. Genius.
I plan on buying another PSP to go along with my CFW one (Was hoping to get a go) but this ended that for me.
I'll just get a 300 and use my UMDs.
my aren't we the defensive Sony fan boy. This isn't about having a job, which I do, this is about a company releasing a pile of shit and charging 250 for it depsjte the fact that it's internals are the same as a device that less than 150 dollars, and telling us we need to buy games we already own AGAIN on the same fucking platform. We just value the money we earn and know corporate bullshit when we see it. And way to keep it classy with the all caps tantrum, fanboy.
Why does it cost almost as much as a PS3 now?"
Seriously people, realize that the PS3 is going on it's 3rd year.
"ZOMG NO UMDS Conversion"
People this is a business. What 3rd party developer would want people to Convert UMDS? We all know that we would just get as many of our friends games as possible and load them up. We'd also rent PSP games to do the same. I know that if they did have UMD conversion the way everyone wants it, I'd be going over to the Gamestop where my buddy works and buy a whole bunch of used UMD, convert them, and return them for my money back.
I would see only brand new games being convertible anyways. Converting a used game would spell even less money for 3rd party guys. they should at least have you register the UPC online and charge a $5 conversion fee or something like that.
Well said. Sony's claiming that there's this giant ass digital library coming with the launch of the PSPgo of over 700 titles. Really, and a UMD to digital conversion method wasn't feasible? What about cutting out the second hand market entirely? You could've allowed a digital copy redemption code with game trade-in at a Sony Style store. Done and done, you get the games out of circulation and you lose very little money in the process with digital distribution.
It's almost as if people saw what iTunes did with music and have begun to ape in the worst ways imaginable.
Sony's PSN is probably the most liberal of them all, but all these digital stores are just rediculously laden with excessive amounts of DRM and copy protection that only serves to protect data for a limited amount of time.
Lets not fool ourselves, shall we? What's going to be around in 20 years? My now-25 year old copy of Super Mario Brothers or your digital download of Killzone Liberation? Even if you managed to keep that digital file in immaculate shape, I bet I'd find hardware to run it more readily than you would a computer that could communicate with a PSP adequately enough to transfer that game from whatever your backup media was onto a working PSPgo.
My point is that physical games will always have a relative place for people who play games. I still play Super Mario Brothers from time to time. Granted, sometimes I play a Rom, sometimes I break out the famicom cart, and other times I go play it on the Wii. But the fact that I've still got a copy gives me a greater sense of ownership of that game than any digital file ever will.
Game publishers looking to take full titles to digital are going to find that there's going to be far less tolerance for crappy titles in the digital marketplace because their sales are going to be frighteningly telling of a game's actual score. There's a reason they gave Undertow away on XBLA. Same reason why you can't find Yaris on there anymore.
I'm sure any kind of UMD conversion would be a one time use only thing, so you couldnt just walk to gamestop and get all the PSP games you want. If you seriously think that's what the UMD conversion system would end up being, you're a moron.
The reason there needs to be a UMD conversion system is because this essentially alienates a large portion of the PSP install base. There are alot of people who own PSPs who would really like a Go, myself included, but there's no way in hell we are paying for our same game again. The PSP is too far into its lifecycle to introduce a drastic new change without compensation to the current install base.
For me, I need a new PSP since my 2000's wireless switch is busted... now I'm just going to pick up a 3000 and wait for a PSP2
I don't think he's a fanboy. I just think he's a turd of a human being. The least you can do is sound intelligent, so try that next time, Captain Toolshed.
@ Skribble
Glad you liked it. Double-glad that someone got the Bill & Ted reference.
@ Steel Brotha
You make some pretty epic points. Gotta hand it to you there.
@ BluDesign
That's how I feel about my hard-copy games, from ZOE:2nd Runner, Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4 Limited Edition, Ikaruga on Dreamcast, every Katamari game, all the way back to my carts of Megaman 1-6...and even older. Try my Atari carts...easy to find those games in a digital sense, sure. But have the cart, and you have a slice of history - which is irreplaceable in every sense of the word. The PSPGo spits in the face of that - and for that, I feel the need to rent a golf cart, line up all of the executives on their knees, and perform repeated drive-by dickslaps.
At least it would make for GREAT YouTube fodder.
There's nothing you can do with a PSPGo that you can't with the 3000. And one's about £100 cheaper.
what a disappointment.
I can tell the real smart people like you go and buy everything twice, right? That's the main reason people are so up in arms abotu this, is because Sony said LOL IT'LL HAVE NO UMD DRIVES BUT DON'T WORRY WE WILL LET YOU CONVERT THEM MAGICALLY AND PUT THEM ON YOUR GO.
And now we can't do that, so they're hopign for us to pay for our games AGAIN. REALLY poor move on Sony's choice.
The retailers do suck for this reason: Used Games Sales. For those of us who work around the clock on these games only to have retailers buy games back from customers for 5$ then turn around and sell them for 5$ less than FULL RETAIL PRICE, it is painful. Imagine if you made an awesome game and a million people played it and loved it, but you only profited from 1/2 of those sales? As a Developer, you are already only getting a small portion of the final retail price, it hurts to make less than the bastard used game retailers who are essentially doing all they can as it is to rip off their customers.
That is like someone coming to your work and pulling their dick out of your mouth half way through, then putting someone else's in and saying: "Once I have bought the blowjob it should be mine to resell!"
Its a licensing issue. Just because people came to Sony to put things on the PSP doesn't mean Sony has the right to redistribute the games for free for the PSP GO. I'd love to be able to go into my local gamestop and get a free permanent digital copy of the game I bought used. I doubt that would sit well with 3rd party developers though.
Its an overpriced PSP. I'm sure Sony will add some exclusive feature eventually that makes it worth more, but I'd rather spend the extra $50 and get a PS3.
Capitalism is a fickle bitch. Somebody found a way to make money off your product without giving you a cut...hmm...sounds like every other industry ever.
Couldn't agree more about actually owning the carts. If you're a videogame collecter, the PSP Go is not the console for you, so don't buy it.
Actually, do buy it, but never use it. Just stick it on our shelf as a shiny bit of memorobilia, because the thing really does look nice.
To be honest, I'm having trouble thinking of the market which the PSP Go is aimed at (besides those with boatloads of cash). Only a select few people seem to be looking forward to going all digital right now.
So you should still get one for all the reasons that you wanted one in the first place and if you could explain those reasons to me that would be helpful because I cant find any reasons for an existing psp owner to upgrade apart from the fact it is new and shiny.
Obviously this is not the sole reason why the PSPgo is looking less appealing to me, but it's the little things that add up.
My main reason for getting one is work-related. There are things I can do with it that will be good for Dtoid posts. However, I'm starting to waver and fear that the entertainment value I could squeeze from it for Dtoid is not enough to justify the purchase.
@Takeshi: Your car example falls flat here. The primary function of a PSP is to play games (ignoring the bells and whistles of music player, net browser, etc). Considering that both PSP models are fairly the same, yet different in how they play the games, it's not really so easy to make a real-world example out of it. The problem of it all is that people who already own UMDs are alienated as there's no way to get their games onto the Go.
It'd be like...buying a house. Two choice houses are fairly similar, though one forces you to buy all the furniture and appliances and knick-knacks already present in the house despite the fact that you have a moving truck full of stuff from your old place.
"Why not sell what all you have?"
Not the best thing to do as everything you have is good. Not to mention, are you really going to recoup on the difference with what all you sell? You already own the stuff, so why buy it again? There's a catch with the stuff already in one of the houses. It's not really yours, though the house is. So at any time, big burly repo-men will enter your house and take "your" possessions.
"That'll never happen!"
Sure, it won't happen now, but what happens when it's 30 years down the line? I'd be particularly jolted if that were to happen to me.
Extreme example, I know. =P
tl;dr: Sony has won the console war.
I say it's still a good deal for people who havent bought it yet, but you're really paying more money to have access to less games :( God dammit.
At least you have work as a reason to get one, I would like one because I normally buy every stupid gadget that is released but for this I have yet to find any bonus in upgrading. My old psp will do all of the same things as the new one plus play all the games that I have already bought.
As for the legal reason, its simple. All these games would require a new contract, some or many or maybe even all studios may be saying we want more of the money pie if these games are going digital, or flat out refuse to allow for the digital edition.
The technical reasons could be anything from SONY decided it wanted more money to games designed for UMD are not so easily made into pure digital versions without time and money to make code changes.
I hope that it's only a couple thousand people who talk a lot, rather than several million people who are looking to buy it asap. If the PSP Go catches on, my belief that for the most part humanity is intelligent dies.
Which one's better? Cheap physical games you can buy from retailers or an all-digital distribution system that puts more money into the developer's hands? I don't think these two methods can co-exist for a long period of time. Sooner or later Sony's going to have to fully back one or the other and knowing them, most likely it'll be the digital. But where's the need for the PSPgo? Going to the store with $200 right now gets a 3000, a memory card, a movie, and a fricking game!
Personally I really like the idea of downloads because: A) you'll always have your games with you; B) whatever happens to the system, the games can be re-downloaded (I hope); C) more game demos available means smarter buying; D) developers can try more online-saavy games when they know their whole audience has online access.
Sorry, Jim. I've failed you. I can't think of any reason why someone would need a GO. It is, to quote Chaucer, "unpossible."

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