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Once upon a time, games came out finished, instead of having to be patched and updated because they released their games too fast.
Although, I agree that they should not be limiting the options they have with the minis. Multiplayer, DLC, and updates are all good ideas. Maybe they'll change this policy when some hit game comes out that would be better with multiplayer.
Although, I agree that they should not be limiting the options they have with the minis. Multiplayer, DLC, and updates are all good ideas. Maybe they'll change this policy when some hit game comes out that would be better with multiplayer.
Wow, anyone who pays for down loadable retail titles for the same price as purchasing it in store on a disc is being ripped off.
Thats pretty shitty.
Thats pretty shitty.
No patches, encourage them to get it right the first time, that I can understand, they are mini's after all.
But no multiplayer or DLC????? you lost me on that one sony.
But no multiplayer or DLC????? you lost me on that one sony.
The multiplayer is the only thing that I see missing for the Minis. I don't want $50 of DLC for a Mini. After all, these are "snackable" games, not AAA titles. Also, instead of patches, just get it right the first time.
There was never a 'once upon a time' time when games were perfect or bug free. And updates aren't limited to patches, they can include new levels, features, etc. This is an oversight, plain and simple.
The QA argument is pretty lame. If a dev wants to add multiplayer or DLC to their mini that should be their choice. If it means a slower launch than so be it, far better that than a less enjoyable product.
Shame, because I was looking forward to what Sony was going to do with the PSPgo Minis.
Shame, because I was looking forward to what Sony was going to do with the PSPgo Minis.
Speaking from personal experience, this is probably much less of a drawback as you're making it out to be. Getting wireless multiplayer approved is a notorious pain in the backside for any system, let alone PSP, and reducing the QA effort on all sides does indeed reduce the barriers to entry on PSP minis. The only thing they are missing compared to the AppStore is pretty much just the updates.
As far as the downloadable games prices go, it's definitely sucky, but isn't so bad when compared to Steam in Europe when games are routinely 5-10 euros more.
As far as the downloadable games prices go, it's definitely sucky, but isn't so bad when compared to Steam in Europe when games are routinely 5-10 euros more.
@CaptainBus
It's not necessarily aimed at reducing the QA effort on the development side, it's reducing the necessary QA effort on the Sony side during certification - therefore it'll be on the PSN Store much quicker.
It's not necessarily aimed at reducing the QA effort on the development side, it's reducing the necessary QA effort on the Sony side during certification - therefore it'll be on the PSN Store much quicker.
Hmm... no multiplayer sucks, but restricting DLC and updates for PSP Minis isn't really that bad. The kind of small, cheap games they are targetting should be complete experiences done right the first time anyway.
But charging full price for (non-PSP Mini) downloadable games? I'm not a fan - especially because the downloadable model doesn't seem to support sales or dropping prices over time the way retail packages do.
But charging full price for (non-PSP Mini) downloadable games? I'm not a fan - especially because the downloadable model doesn't seem to support sales or dropping prices over time the way retail packages do.
@rebellionlies
That makes more sense.
However I'd rather have a game that took a month longer to reach me and had multiplayer than a game of that got to me quickly and I can't play multiplayer on.
If devs wanted to get a Mini through quick by not including multiplayer, they could submit the game to Sony as such and Sony could reduce their QA accordingly. They shouldn't put a barrier on that choice.
That makes more sense.
However I'd rather have a game that took a month longer to reach me and had multiplayer than a game of that got to me quickly and I can't play multiplayer on.
If devs wanted to get a Mini through quick by not including multiplayer, they could submit the game to Sony as such and Sony could reduce their QA accordingly. They shouldn't put a barrier on that choice.
I'd likely never use a multiplayer component on the PSP at all, because none of my friends even have one. But limiting updates? If the developer is committed enough to their product, then by all means allow them to further it.
I know I'm the minority but I love my iPhone for gaming so much more for gaming than my PSP it's a fucking joke.
I can't believe Sony would do this. No way will this be able to compete with the App Store. Maybe DSiWare. I mean I have like three MMOs on my phone right now that utlize GPS, mics, and motion control. The least Sony could do was have sone PSP-to-PSP multiplayer. And no updates? Dude you know how many Apps come out the gate broken? Updates are the only thing that saves the App Store.
I can't believe Sony would do this. No way will this be able to compete with the App Store. Maybe DSiWare. I mean I have like three MMOs on my phone right now that utlize GPS, mics, and motion control. The least Sony could do was have sone PSP-to-PSP multiplayer. And no updates? Dude you know how many Apps come out the gate broken? Updates are the only thing that saves the App Store.
sony just needs to get their fingers out of the pot and say that so long as there is no copyright violation, you can do what you want
So, according to that logic, Sony is making a handheld system that delivers what gamers want, which is a lack of multiplayer and a lack of potential fixes for broken titles that the gamers in question would spend their money on.
I'm surprised how Sony can still stand, given one of its feet keeps continually receiving self-inflicted bullet wounds and the other foot is perpetually planted in their mouth.
Kutaragi would have never stood for this.
I'm surprised how Sony can still stand, given one of its feet keeps continually receiving self-inflicted bullet wounds and the other foot is perpetually planted in their mouth.
Kutaragi would have never stood for this.
I hate patches as they let people get lazy with testing rather than sorting it out before there's a problem but I really don't think that sort of thing applies to digital distribution. Imagine Steam with no updates and retail price.
@Xzyliac
I don't think competing with the iPhone for gaming would even be an issue if they didn't already try to make it enemy number one.
@Xzyliac
I don't think competing with the iPhone for gaming would even be an issue if they didn't already try to make it enemy number one.
Guys n' Gals, pay attention. It says that the MINI games won't be multiplayer. It doesn't say anything about REGULAR download games not being multiplayer.
That said, iPhone has a checkmate on them for games--since it allows DLC AND multiplayer, both ad-hoc and online.
That said, iPhone has a checkmate on them for games--since it allows DLC AND multiplayer, both ad-hoc and online.
if the service is popular sony will change the requirements.
XBLA's size restrictions and price points have been adjusted several times.
XBLA's size restrictions and price points have been adjusted several times.
Sony'll undo this when a legitimately must have property is released on here. They'll latch on, offer support, and this will all blow over.
Yes, because this doesn't work for their main competitor with this type of product.
...who I've already thrown $30 for roughly 30 great games.
...who I've already thrown $30 for roughly 30 great games.
Remember when XBLA's size restriction was broken? It just needs the right game to come along for Sony to let go of this stuff.
I expect stupid shit out of Sony now. This is like par for the course. This being said I fucking love that header image.
WHY? What stupid, unnecessary restrictions. It's pretty much Sony telling you "Ok, you have freedom to make whatever kind of game you like, but go easy on the quality. We won't allow anything that will make the game better if it means extra megabytes."
PSP Minis has freedom? Bull shit!
PSP Minis has freedom? Bull shit!
Why Sony...? T-T
Oh look a switch.
"EMO: Flip in event of calamity"
Sorry not emo today! I has Scribblenauts hat!
- Also, "Release the bees" = made me LMAO
Oh look a switch.
"EMO: Flip in event of calamity"
Sorry not emo today! I has Scribblenauts hat!
- Also, "Release the bees" = made me LMAO
This won't effect much as most of the games for this service will likely be small enough efforts that people probably won't even try to implement things like this, but it seems pretty shitty to not leave that option open for devs that want to do it.
No multiplayer and no DLC makes sense. But no updates? I really hope they don't mean patches, because if I wanted games that couldn't be patched I'd plug in the Wii.
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