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PSP Minis: No multiplayer, no DLC, no updates photo

PSP Minis is one of the big reasons why I'm looking forward to the PSPgo, especially with Sony promising huge freedom of development and easy approval. Despite the much-lauded freedoms, however, it appears that Minis will be subject to some pretty tight restrictions, such as a lack of multiplayer, and the inability to provide download content or updates. Sony, however, is claiming that these regulations are somehow a good thing.

"When you look at it from a testing perspective, you have to do more QA. [Allowing wireless multiplayer, DLC and updates] would defeat the purpose of having a dedicated service for smaller content," explains Sony's Justin Cooney. "It increases the barriers. From our perspective, if we're going to reduce the time it takes to get through our internal process, it helps that we don't have to check multiplayer features."

Multiplayer will only be allowed for people "taking turns" with a single PSP, but that, to be honest, sucks. It seems that Sony is intent on dampening the benefits of the PSPgo, first by revealing that downloadable games will cost the same as retail ones, and now by severely gimping PSP Minis. It's almost as if Sony can't have one good idea without also having two bad ones. 

The only real positive is that Minis will be able to launch quicker, but now that we know they can't be patched, perhaps customers may not be as quick to drop the dollars. Seriously, Sony, if you're really intent on fighting Apple, you really need to get your sh*t together.








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Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:42
Shadowiii
Nice to see Sony is up to their old tricks.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:47
Kraid
Easy approval? Does it mean we are going to see Baby Shaker and Rapelay PSP?
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:48
funran
Once upon a time, games came out finished, instead of having to be patched and updated because they released their games too fast.

Although, I agree that they should not be limiting the options they have with the minis. Multiplayer, DLC, and updates are all good ideas. Maybe they'll change this policy when some hit game comes out that would be better with multiplayer.
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:49
falinter
Wow, anyone who pays for down loadable retail titles for the same price as purchasing it in store on a disc is being ripped off.

Thats pretty shitty.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:50
Black Nexus
No patches, encourage them to get it right the first time, that I can understand, they are mini's after all.

But no multiplayer or DLC????? you lost me on that one sony.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:52
Chronic Logic
Talking bad stuff about Sony, Jim? That's naughty.
JulianProxy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 10:54
JulianProxy
The multiplayer is the only thing that I see missing for the Minis. I don't want $50 of DLC for a Mini. After all, these are "snackable" games, not AAA titles. Also, instead of patches, just get it right the first time.
natetehgreat's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:04
natetehgreat
There was never a 'once upon a time' time when games were perfect or bug free. And updates aren't limited to patches, they can include new levels, features, etc. This is an oversight, plain and simple.
Moofey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:05
Moofey
It would certainly make a good handheld for the young ones, though. :P
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:06
Sean Daisy
The QA argument is pretty lame. If a dev wants to add multiplayer or DLC to their mini that should be their choice. If it means a slower launch than so be it, far better that than a less enjoyable product.

Shame, because I was looking forward to what Sony was going to do with the PSPgo Minis.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:06
Samit Sarkar
ZOMG Jim moar anti-Sony bias ZOMG
rebellionlies's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:07
rebellionlies
Speaking from personal experience, this is probably much less of a drawback as you're making it out to be. Getting wireless multiplayer approved is a notorious pain in the backside for any system, let alone PSP, and reducing the QA effort on all sides does indeed reduce the barriers to entry on PSP minis. The only thing they are missing compared to the AppStore is pretty much just the updates.

As far as the downloadable games prices go, it's definitely sucky, but isn't so bad when compared to Steam in Europe when games are routinely 5-10 euros more.
rebellionlies's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:11
rebellionlies
@CaptainBus

It's not necessarily aimed at reducing the QA effort on the development side, it's reducing the necessary QA effort on the Sony side during certification - therefore it'll be on the PSN Store much quicker.
ejamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:21
ejamer
Hmm... no multiplayer sucks, but restricting DLC and updates for PSP Minis isn't really that bad. The kind of small, cheap games they are targetting should be complete experiences done right the first time anyway.

But charging full price for (non-PSP Mini) downloadable games? I'm not a fan - especially because the downloadable model doesn't seem to support sales or dropping prices over time the way retail packages do.
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:23
Sean Daisy
@rebellionlies
That makes more sense.

However I'd rather have a game that took a month longer to reach me and had multiplayer than a game of that got to me quickly and I can't play multiplayer on.

If devs wanted to get a Mini through quick by not including multiplayer, they could submit the game to Sony as such and Sony could reduce their QA accordingly. They shouldn't put a barrier on that choice.
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:28
FatherChesz
I'd likely never use a multiplayer component on the PSP at all, because none of my friends even have one. But limiting updates? If the developer is committed enough to their product, then by all means allow them to further it.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:29
manasteel88
is the pspminis only exclusive to the pspgo? meaning you can't use them on any other psp?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:39
Xzyliac
I know I'm the minority but I love my iPhone for gaming so much more for gaming than my PSP it's a fucking joke.

I can't believe Sony would do this. No way will this be able to compete with the App Store. Maybe DSiWare. I mean I have like three MMOs on my phone right now that utlize GPS, mics, and motion control. The least Sony could do was have sone PSP-to-PSP multiplayer. And no updates? Dude you know how many Apps come out the gate broken? Updates are the only thing that saves the App Store.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 11:52
whormongr
sony just needs to get their fingers out of the pot and say that so long as there is no copyright violation, you can do what you want
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 12:10
Everyday Legend
So, according to that logic, Sony is making a handheld system that delivers what gamers want, which is a lack of multiplayer and a lack of potential fixes for broken titles that the gamers in question would spend their money on.

I'm surprised how Sony can still stand, given one of its feet keeps continually receiving self-inflicted bullet wounds and the other foot is perpetually planted in their mouth.

Kutaragi would have never stood for this.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 12:16
GoldenGamerXero
I hate patches as they let people get lazy with testing rather than sorting it out before there's a problem but I really don't think that sort of thing applies to digital distribution. Imagine Steam with no updates and retail price.

@Xzyliac

I don't think competing with the iPhone for gaming would even be an issue if they didn't already try to make it enemy number one.
DigitalD562's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 12:26
DigitalD562
I've just changed my mind on getting a PSP. Nice job Sony.
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 12:27
CaptainApocalypse
"See? We took out quality so we could make money faster. Isn't this better?"
Solid Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 12:56
Solid Squirrel
Guys n' Gals, pay attention. It says that the MINI games won't be multiplayer. It doesn't say anything about REGULAR download games not being multiplayer.
That said, iPhone has a checkmate on them for games--since it allows DLC AND multiplayer, both ad-hoc and online.
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 13:15
TewDee
GOD. WHY do you do this to yourself Sony? WHY?
neveranything's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 13:36
neveranything
This, THIS is why I buy so few Sony products.
Coltronathon5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 14:36
Coltronathon5000
if the service is popular sony will change the requirements.

XBLA's size restrictions and price points have been adjusted several times.
MrSlippery's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 15:01
MrSlippery
Sony'll undo this when a legitimately must have property is released on here. They'll latch on, offer support, and this will all blow over.
agentgray's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 15:53
agentgray
Yes, because this doesn't work for their main competitor with this type of product.

...who I've already thrown $30 for roughly 30 great games.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 16:00
matrixdude171
huh....... shoot yourself in the foot.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 16:13
Dan CiTi
Remember when XBLA's size restriction was broken? It just needs the right game to come along for Sony to let go of this stuff.
CrocBox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 16:59
CrocBox
I expect stupid shit out of Sony now. This is like par for the course. This being said I fucking love that header image.
DustyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 17:53
DustyBlue
WHY? What stupid, unnecessary restrictions. It's pretty much Sony telling you "Ok, you have freedom to make whatever kind of game you like, but go easy on the quality. We won't allow anything that will make the game better if it means extra megabytes."

PSP Minis has freedom? Bull shit!
HammerShark's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 18:00
HammerShark
Why Sony...? T-T

Oh look a switch.
"EMO: Flip in event of calamity"
Sorry not emo today! I has Scribblenauts hat!

- Also, "Release the bees" = made me LMAO
kingtobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 18:47
kingtobo
This won't effect much as most of the games for this service will likely be small enough efforts that people probably won't even try to implement things like this, but it seems pretty shitty to not leave that option open for devs that want to do it.
Pangloss's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 20:51
Pangloss
"RELEASE THE BEES."

You Rang?
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 01:01
hpv
No multiplayer and no DLC makes sense. But no updates? I really hope they don't mean patches, because if I wanted games that couldn't be patched I'd plug in the Wii.
flabzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 09:05
flabzilla
I don't really mind the no DLC content but they should allow for some kind of local download play option.
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