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One of the best things about digital games is that they lack the cost of physical production, packaging and shipping, ultimately meaning that they cost less to create and should therefore cost less to purchase. Unless of course, you're Microsoft and Sony, who instead believe that downloads should cost exactly the same at retail.

It's been discovered that the PSP will not be offering downloadable versions of retail games at a reduced price, with the revelation that Gran Turismo will cost $39.99 for both physical and digital copies. The same goes for Persona's PSP release, which will also cost $39.99 on both fronts. We knew Persona's price previously, and Gran Turismo seems to confirm that this is going to be the standard.

This is, to put it politely, complete and utter bullsh*t. This reduces the appeal of the digital-only PSPgo even more than ever, with customers now expected to pay the same amount of money for a product that doesn't have a box or manual. Even worse, this is something that Sony Computer Entertainment America has introduced off its own back. In Japan, downloadable games are being sold at a discount. For some reason, SCEA decided we don't deserve the same treatment.

In the case of Persona, not only will the physical UMD come with its own packaging, but consumers will also get a two-disc soundtrack as a free bonus. Those downloading the game get f*ck all. In fact, you can even buy the physical copy of Persona on Amazon for $36.99, making it cheaper than the downloadable copy.

Absolute crap like this just makes the PSPgo look like a scam, and does absolutely nothing to promote the benefits of downloadable games.Why the hell should we download, when we're paying the same amount of cash for less content?

That's simply pathetic, Sony.








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PanOpticon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:44
PanOpticon
Retailers would be pissed off if digital copies were cheaper. As Sony's console is under performing at retail to begin with, I think Sony just doesn't want to upset the people who be carrying their next platform. It's a bloody catch-22 for Sony.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:45
Holyetheline
I feel like Sony is always a jackass about their pricing.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:48
Daxelman
Well, I hope they get around to doing selective pricing.

Unless the Persona PSP pack (and the GT stuff, if it comes with extra stuff) is not a limited edition, which I kinda think it is.

Oh man, that just made my point more frustrating that it was intended to be.

MAKE PHYSICAL STUFF REGULAR PRICE MAKE DIGITAL STUFF A TAD MORE CHEAP.

There. Better. I think.
Overcrowd's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:48
Overcrowd
FUCK. THAT.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:49
ace of knaves
Would anyone, any asshole out there actually like to suggest, right here, on this post, that Jim has an unfair bias against Sony? Please, I'm begging you. Bring it the fuck on.
pokemisha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:50
pokemisha
Fuck you Sony.
I'm sticking with my Slim.
And my not-hacked 1000.
The pspGo! is a ripoff and a joke. The only thing I am HONESTLY excited about are the minis which can be... wait for it... downloaded on all versions.
Fantus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:50
Fantus
This is the same thing with PC games. Digital PC games cost the same as retail versions. Been that way for a long time.

I don't see how this is anything new. You thought they WEREN'T going to keep the prices the same?
Fantus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:50
Fantus
This is the same thing with PC games. Digital PC games cost the same as retail versions. Been that way for a long time.

I don't see how this is anything new. You thought they WEREN'T going to keep the prices the same?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:51
Xzyliac
Am I the only person who has lost their mind completely and doesn't see the benefit (to the consumer) of digital disribution other than small titles that wouldn't survive in retail?
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:52
akathatoneguy
It doesn't matter if it's been this way for awhile or not. They are saving money by not producing the discs, booklets, cases, etc. and that should be passed on to the consumer.

Xzyliac- No, you're not crazy. I feel the same way.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:53
Daxelman
@Fantus: A lot of steam titles manage to drop the price, if not initially than soon after the games let out the gate.
Moloks's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:54
Moloks
Congratulations Sony, you managed to top yourself with this. In europe, people can get a PSP-3000 with the GT bundle and pay less than a PSP Go, they can also get a bigger screen and better battery life. If downloadable games aren't cheaper, there's simply no advantage in paying more for a PSP Go except for the design, which doesn't change much.

But there's also the possibility of Sony only using this pricing scheme in highly anticipated titles like GT or Persona 3 with "regular titles" being cheaper in its digital form, we'll just have to wait and see..
Fantus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:55
Fantus
@Daxelman: True. But Steam isn't the only digital distribution avenue. Does Stardock lower prices? The digital versions of PS3/PSP games already available on PSN don't get price breaks either.

I just don't see why you would expect them to lower the prices all of a sudden.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:55
pedrovay2003
I'm with Xzyliac, I think digital distribution is all bullshit.
BenHaskett's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:56
BenHaskett
@ Ace of Knaves -

I would like to suggest that.

Nah, not really. Is that a common accusation against him?

---

Anyway, yeah, the lack of a pricing difference is a bit upsetting. Even a $5.00 diff would be adequate.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:56
DaedHead8
I guess I won't be needing that larger memory card after all as I'll be sticking with UMD based games for the foreseeable future.
Tralfmadoria's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:58
Tralfmadoria
Fantus:

Like Jim mentions in the article, SCEJ does offer downloadable games for less than retail price. So yeah, we all thought that SCEA would follow their example.

Everything about the PSPgo has seemed restrictive and disabling to me. As of right now, I honestly can't think of a single reason why anyone would buy one over a PSP-3000.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:59
ace of knaves
@BenHaskett
Not that common, especially since most trolls have been weeded from Destructoid, but this is a situation where that opinion would be quite idiotic indeed.
accidentprone88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 18:59
accidentprone88
I'll agree with the notion that I'm not a fan of digital distribution whatsoever. I'm a total sucker for packaging and such.

That being said, go to hell Sony. If digital distribution truly is the "future" (and I pray to God it isn't), then give us a reason to change.
Spilt Milk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:00
Spilt Milk
If I see someone walking down the street with a PSPGO I will smack it out of their hands and smash it with a rock out of spite.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:01
whormongr
well then, I guess it just motivates people to hack it
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:01
Chibi_Zero
Wasn't this pretty much expected?
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:04
killatia
Valve with Steam are the only ones doing digital distribution right. Sony, as well as the rest of the industry, need to follow there stuff when it comes to this.
bickle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:07
bickle
Digital downloads always screw the consumer. Prices are always way out of line, and DRM mucks up everything.

I'd rather have the physical media, which I can run on any hardware I want, or (gasp!) loan it to a friend.
natetehgreat's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:09
natetehgreat
Bah, Sony! One step forward, five steps back. Way to appease the brick-and-mortar stores (just like Microsoft) before the people who actually use game consoles: gamers.

Stop acting like a software company and make a profitable system so you're not dependent on a big cut from software!
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:14
JQM78
Fuck You Sony.........Ok, I will admit it....I preordered a PSP go.

I am seriously considering a change of heart (getting my fifty bucks back from my local game store).

I kinda knew that this was going to be the case, but I guess I felt somewhere in the back of my head that Downloaded games would be discounted for the obvious reasons.......or at the absolute least include some pretty nice downloadable additions......

So, what Sony is basically saying is; fuck you consumer, pay 40 bucks for it at the store, or pay 40 bucks on the psn

At the store I get a physical copy (which I can actually resell) with a box and a manual.

And on PSN I get nothing but a game, which, I might add....if it sucks or you tire of it, youre stuck with it.......

Sony needs to do something about this or I say we boycott this shit and stick with your original psps.
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:18
JQM78
@ the reborn

In all fairness, Patapon II launched at 19.99, thats a great price for a new psp game........forty bucks for a downloadable game is fucked, no matter which way you slice it.....
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:22
linuxguy
see what happend there? sony is making us LOVE the UMD.
AstralDrmz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:23
AstralDrmz
Gonna wait to see how long it takes for it to get hacked.
I think that the pricing for it is just BS.
stanfy86's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:25
stanfy86
@ Fantus Steam is the best and only decent digital distribution platform out there in my opinion.

Games for windows live is a rip off, what with its monopoly money, and this stardock you speak of i have never once heard of.

Whats being said here is there should be some inherant benifits to going digital instead of hard copy, and for the above stated reasons (games cost the same, no added content) is why most of these digital distributors will fail.
KIHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:29
KIHP
Who cares about retailers this is competition and is perfectlly fine in a free market system. There needs to be some muscle shown as far as the retailers, if they are going to sell games used then the companies should sell them digital for even less than used.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:34
Chibi_Zero
KIHP: Thats sounds like a great idea until retailers stop stocking your products.
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:39
JQM78
This makes me want to go the way of the pirate.....sad.
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:41
funran
agreed fully jim :( they should fix this.
JynxShot's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:43
JynxShot
Keeping my 3000.
KIHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:43
KIHP
They already aren't with the used sales, I haven't bought anything in a store around here since fallout 3 collectors because shops only get one shipment and then are all used from there, which is bullshit. Online games should compete with used, because I challenge stores to buy more than the bare minimum they are. Besides how many people will be able to utilize this, currently not enough to challenge used sales. There should be a nice spot for us real fans that care enough since we are the only ones who really do care enough to do all of this.
Archer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:48
Archer
It's not like they're forcing anyone to buy the PSP Go, or the digital games for that matter
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:52
Jim Sterling
"It's not like they're forcing anyone to buy the PSP Go, or the digital games for that matter."

No, but those looking forward to what the PSPgo and downloadable games had to offer are now severely disappointed. The fact is, I was VERY willing to give downloadable games a shot. I welcomed the idea, in fact. Now, I am not interested. I'm not paying full retail price for a file.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 19:58
free touch
Well, the way I see, it, there is three ways you can "battle" these prices:

1: PSPgo will no doubt be hacked within the first couple weeks of its release. Then go steal some games. I would suggest against that, because you kinda fudge everyone that way.

2: You can download things from the PS3 store, so, if you want the cheaper games, get a japanese psn account, buy a japanese psn card from amazon or ebay or whatever, and buy the japanese versions. Granted, things like persona and other rpgs will be boned, but platformers, racers, etc. will suffer little.

3: Just don't buy them. Get a psp-1000/2000/3000 and get the physical copies of the games. If you are hellbent on getting a PSPgo, only use it to buy the console exclusive titles, which will no doubt be cheaper.

Tons of options, all will send the message to Sony. Choose wisely.
bigduo209's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 20:09
bigduo209
@Jim
Oh come on, you actually believed Sony would let a downloadable game be cheaper? I mean look at the PSPgo's price? Look at the fact that besides it's form factor, lack of UMD, and bluetooth it's not worth it's 249.99 'fee'. A unswappable battery that gets 5 hours play time like regular PSP's do with UMD games?

You think it's bad now? I already felt it was bad before, and it's possible things are gonna get worse.
bigduo209's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 20:15
bigduo209
You can download all the same games (full titles or minis) on the normal PSPs ,and play them with better battery life because of the bigger battery meant for UMD games. I've seen the PSPgo as a rip-off the moment it's specs started being released.
KIHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 20:26
KIHP
So it should be called PSPno, alrite I'm done
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 20:33
HEL105
I sold my launch PSP late last year, in hopes that the rumors of a cool, new version of the PSP launching in 2009 would prove true. Ugh. I think I'll just get the Dissidia bundle instead.
DGX Goggles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 20:38
DGX Goggles
PSPgo should've already been where you stopped. No second nub, go to hell Sony. I've already got digital downloads anyways, if you know what I mean...
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 20:38
Jawmuncher
Still this is pathetic. They want Digital Downloads to be the next step but why bother when they are priced the same as retail? Destructoid put up a good example. I can get persona with the soundtrack as well as the case and manual for 40. Or I can get just the game for just 40. Sure I know for some people all that extra shit isn't necessary but still you are technically getting less for your money. I still say Digital Downloads should be priced at least 10 cheaper than retail.

Since a price like that would make going all digital more worthwhile, while more than likely causing no threat to retailers.
500xp's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 21:10
500xp
Fuck

The screen on my PSP Slim broke and I was going to buy a PSPGO. But with no exchange plan and this bullshit looks like my days with the PSP are over.
danthuman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 21:13
danthuman
They're testing the waters. If nobody buys it they'll lower it. So nobody buy it.
KIHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 21:51
KIHP
@danthehuman normally when I test waters I check to see if it's boiling first
DelayedPiano's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 21:58
DelayedPiano
I agree with the post!
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2009 22:08
peachboy
you guys are living in the god damned stone age.
digital distro, weeeeee!
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