Remember when Sony dropped a sinister reference to PSN subscription fees last month? Well, prepare your wallets for a raping because the company's mentioned them again, all but confirming that regular paid content will be a part of Sony's online model.
"Servers and the like have running costs … after we sell the hardware, though, we continue to sell products such as content and services," states SCE technology platform chief Masayuki Chatani. "We expect to see considerable growth in digital content, such as game download services, avatar items and the like. We can also accept payment in a growing number of ways.
"In addition to single-payment packaged software, there are also schemes like monthly fees or per-item charges. I think this variety of payment methods will bring about a diverse range of playing methods, too."
I'd always said that Sony would charge for PSN services as soon as it felt it could get away with it, and people called me a moron for suggesting such a thing. Well, who's the moron now, IDIOTS!? Luckily, Sony has said that online play would always be free, but that does bring forth a question -- what the Hell could Sony offer that would be worth paying a subscription fee over?
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Well if they decide to add something new on top of what the PSN offers and then add a yearly sub on top of that I would be ok. Take away my free online play and all that jazz, not ok.
I think I can read just fine, Volomon. Did you read my article at all?
Well it's awesome you know more about me than I apparently do. I'll tender my resignation so you can do my job better. <3
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After that the only reason for me to go online is for the fairly regular system updates and most of those are useless to me but are mandatory.
I can't see them charging for system updates and if they don't charge for multi-player which I think this is what this is all about, then what are they charging for? They already charge the developers to put the demo's up on PSN.
I don't think this is unexpected at all.
There is also likely to be possibilities for monthly movie fees - pay a monthly subscription and get X number of movies you can watch that month.
This isn't a "bad" thing. Online play will remain free, existing services will remain free.
(and frankly, they could even charge a monthly fee for Home and it wouldn't bother me in the least!)
If it's hookers and ale I don't mind.
To which I say go for it. I want Sony to do well and if they can supply a good service for a modest price, more power to them. And money, too. They sorta need it seeing how they've taken it in the keister for so long with the manufacturing cost of their console.
You're really misusing 'PSN service' here as if it means X-game chatting or dedicated servers when the 'service' is really an alternative subscription plan for playing PSN games in lieue of just buying them outright. They're essentially expanding the ways that you can enjoy games by subscribing to play them all or just buying the ones you want. Either way, you gotta pay to play a game.
Somehow you see the concept of Sony increasing the options people have to enjoy the games they want to play as a bad thing? I thought you were pro-gaming?
Again, the key phrase here is optional subscription method, not PSN fee.
I'm guessing MMO's, all they're saying is "we can charge a monthly fee for MMO's"
Stop trying to throw fuel on the fire man.
You are the ones misreading my article and trying to twist phrasing and wording. It's getting about as old as my "trolling" apparently is. You're only trolling yourselves at this rate.
For all of the fanboy bile-spewing on both sides of their respective fences, I still say that PSN needs to become a stronger service across all areas in order to charge a monthly fee for ANYTHING. No cross-game chat has been a thorn in PSN's side since the launch of the service, and being asked to pay just for that seems beyond asinine.
If they want my ever-lightening dollar, they'd better make the service shine like the fucking sun.
Calm down man! Lordy!
So that's how it's gonna be...
Until people stop losing their minds over what they thought he said, then yes, that's how it's going to be.
@Xzyliac
I don't blame him in the least. He didn't say that the service would switch to subscription-only, nor did he poke anything resembling a hornet's nest. The SDF just shoots on sight, regardless of the actual target, it seems.
And they also plan to charge for club houses in home.
Home is a major source of change for the ps3. If you don't believe me, go to home, and see how many wonderful people are buying digital clothes.
I just have to say, PSN better not fuck up like Live did two years ago after chrsitmas. Its going to be large.
"hey, wanna go to the game tonight?"
"WTF you say about Sony?!?!"
Jim: you wrote: "PSN subscription fee subject rears ugly head again" in the title. Its implied. You know what you do, you are a writer. So don't come back with "oh so I DIDN'T NOT say you would pay.... etc etc." You know how to write. It was done on purpose. If you would change the title to "Sony Exec. says "We will continue to sell content and services." None of this would happen. Of course you won't change it, because then you wouldn't get all the bawwwchilds in here.
Everyone else: Don't pay attention to the title. There. Everything is ok.
When this story stops being about the subject of subscription fees on the PSN, the headline will be inaccurate.
"When this story stops being about the subject of subscription fees on the PSN, the headline will be inaccurate."
Frankly I'm confused.
Not to sound rude, but you pretty much asked for people to respond this way. This isnt the first time you've written something "misleading" in order to attract attention, yet you complain when people become outraged and call you out on it. The fact that in the article you try and clarify (briefly) to save face doesnt change the fact that your headline is innacurate.
4.5 Never forget. :)
"We expect to see considerable growth in digital content, such as game download services, avatar items and the like. We can also accept payment in a growing number of ways.
They see a growth in DLC. You currently pay for DLC with a single purchase price, but they see other ways of paying for digital content other than just flat fees for individual DLC items.
"In addition to single-payment packaged software, there are also schemes like monthly fees or per-item charges.
As an example of how they could price out DLC, they could have a subscription fee for access to a certain number or type of DLC, including all older DLC and anything that comes out with new games. They could also break up what one digital game or similar application offers into smaller bits and only sell what you would want for that application, such as selling co-op, multiplayer, and single-player options separately for those who don't want to pay for all 3.
This doesn't change that you'd still have the option to buy the game as it currently is, a single flat price for the full package.
I think this variety of payment methods will bring about a diverse range of playing methods, too."
He thinks doing it this way may result in offering more play options for various games based on what people are willing to pay for. Perhaps letting players cookie-cutter build the game they want to play rather than having all of it forced on them.
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Now, Jim, based on what you wrote above all you seemed to really read was "monthly fees" rather than actually seeing the context of his comment. Then you blogged it here using the typical FUD crap methodology and finished it off with "... what the Hell could Sony offer that would be worth paying a subscription fee over?"
Seriously Jim? It's the same thing you can currently buy on the PSN, aka DLC. They're not talking about charging a fee for new PSN services, they're just talking about alternative methods of paying for the same content we already pay for.
With Free Realms, DC Online, and The Agency coming to the PS3 this year supposedly, it's kind of obvious why they're talking more about this. Will DC Online have an option to pay a monthly subscription fee with access to all content, including all costume pieces, new content, and the such? Or, will they sell everything by piece? Or, will they have both options.
That kind of concept is already used in MMOs as it is, so it's kind of hard to not see how you couldn't draw the same conclusion with digital content in general. But, instead, you did the usual Jim blog post with the ever so catchy title.
@JimSterling: wow... i thought the article was really clearly written. The other commenter's must not have read the article or must have been out sick when critical thinking was being taught in school.