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This as asking for it but sod it, I'm gonna say it anyway.
Considering most of Capcom's downloadable content is on-disc anyway, I'm not that fucking bothered people can't buy it.
Considering most of Capcom's downloadable content is on-disc anyway, I'm not that fucking bothered people can't buy it.
what can you do? i guess delaying PSN games would be your best option while waiting for PSN to come up.
still sucks for those who released a few days before the outbreak.
i want to play Arcana Heart 3!!!
still sucks for those who released a few days before the outbreak.
i want to play Arcana Heart 3!!!
it is not Capcom or the big ones I feel more sorry about it. It is the smaller ones like thatgamecompany. Their main revenue comes from digital distribution. I hope Sony make amends with them by creating a way to ad their games more or at least, cut any fees they have for downloadable titles for a certain period.
All the money isn't being lost, a I have a PS3 loving friend who's been forced to hop onto back onto XBL and buy a couple of XBLA titles during this downtime to keep himself occupied during this downtime, including that new Dishwasher game and MvC 2. Those are purchases he probably would have never made if his usual PS3 multiplayer titles were available.
Not denying that people are losing (a lot) of money, but some is probably still coming to companies like Cap in a roundabout way.
Not denying that people are losing (a lot) of money, but some is probably still coming to companies like Cap in a roundabout way.
I -AM- bothered about publishers haemorraging money due to Sony's incompetance and the hackers being TOTAL BASTARDS, of course. Just maybe Capcom's not the ideal candidate to speak out about people being unable to buy their non-DLC...
But yeah, I bet Valve and Netherrealm particularly are fucking LIVID right now.
But yeah, I bet Valve and Netherrealm particularly are fucking LIVID right now.
If I were a publisher, I'd demand nothing less from Sony than hand jobs from Kevin Butler and Kaz Hirai. Everyday. For the rest of my life. And a little bit beyond that.
But hey that's just me.
But hey that's just me.
This is where the outage really upsets me. I puy a lot of PS1 and PSP games on PSN.
The outage doesn't just hurt Sony. It hurts any company that has made a game for the PS3.
I'm sure Portal 2 and MK9 have had their sales hurt by this attack. People don't want to buy multiplayer games if they can't play them.
The only game I've been playing on PS3 since PSN went down is Dynasty Warriors 7.
The outage doesn't just hurt Sony. It hurts any company that has made a game for the PS3.
I'm sure Portal 2 and MK9 have had their sales hurt by this attack. People don't want to buy multiplayer games if they can't play them.
The only game I've been playing on PS3 since PSN went down is Dynasty Warriors 7.
In some ways the PS3 downtime may help some publishers (while penalizing others) While I can't play SOCOM online, I did go out and buy Portal 2 (which I was going to buy later when the price went down) and I also picked up one of the Uncharted games. I probably wouldn't have bought either game except that I have so few offline games.
I'll likely buy a few more offline games as well if PSN is expected to be down for most of this month... so again, some devs/publishers may profit from the downtime, while others will indeed lose out.
I'll likely buy a few more offline games as well if PSN is expected to be down for most of this month... so again, some devs/publishers may profit from the downtime, while others will indeed lose out.
for the companies who rely solely on digital distribution this is certainly a shitty situation. however, when you have all your eggs in one basket and that basket gets hacked and the maker of the basket recalls it for "maintenance", you maybe want to think about buying another basket for you eggs.
HAHAHAHAH screw you capcom. They're just pissed because now people can't buy dlc which was cut from the disk in the first place. you're stupid drm protections make it impossible to play playstation network games so you aren't exactly one to be crying victim. Go make up for it by chopping out half of the characters from tekkenXstreet fighter.
Why is everyone blaming Sony when they should be pissed at the hackers. Sony is doing there best to bring the service back up and if the hackers never hacked psn none of this would have happened.
@hugh: I don't blame Sony. They had a shitty security system, but I don't balme them.
At this point, hardly anybody believes the hackers are justified. Thay've made their point. They can stop attacking. It's just hurting consumers and developers now.
At this point, hardly anybody believes the hackers are justified. Thay've made their point. They can stop attacking. It's just hurting consumers and developers now.
I agree that there are a lot of hidden costs due to this breach. I said weeks ago that you can imagine the families of the people trying to rebuild the PSN. They are getting stressed beyond belief I am sure because of fear for keeping their livelihood and building a "secure" network from the rubble of the first and the wives/husbands/fathers/mothers are not around to take care of them and share in life because of these asshole hackers who wanted to punish a corporation but instead caused incalculable damage to the gamers, developers, their families, and gaming in general. Its all such a very sad display of humanity.
The thorough rout of Sony's online network is likely to have lingering effects for years to come.
In terms of total cost (not even considering revenue lost from the now tarnished PlayStation brand), this may already be worse than Microsoft's RRoD disaster.
In terms of total cost (not even considering revenue lost from the now tarnished PlayStation brand), this may already be worse than Microsoft's RRoD disaster.
There are two things to learn from this:
1. Everyone loses, even consumers.
2. Don't antagonize people that have skewed moral compasses, and the ability to totally ruin your shit.
1. Everyone loses, even consumers.
2. Don't antagonize people that have skewed moral compasses, and the ability to totally ruin your shit.
The worst thing is that, at this point, no one really knows for sure when PSN will be back. Who's to say that it won't be down for another month, or longer even? How long before this has the potential to ruin Sony as a gaming company?
I'm sorry but I don't think the most glorious of sunday roasts could stop that furry little bastard from ripping your face off and wiping it's arse with it. I will have nightmares because of that header Jim.
What? No apology for your PSN DRM effectively locking people out of the game for the downtime? What cocks.
If Capcom wasn't a company that makes online connection mandatory to play their 15 dollar downloadable SINGLE-PLAYER games, maybe I'd care. Despite the tragic earthquakes, despite the hackers, despite the myriad of smaller more predictable outtages, Capcom has never apologized to the people who spend money on games they can only play when fate (along with Sony, mother nature, and the criminal underworld) wills it.
If it weren't for DRM that punishes honest customers, I'd feel sympathy for Capcom. But they stopped caring about paying customers like me, so I can't really care about them here.
If it weren't for DRM that punishes honest customers, I'd feel sympathy for Capcom. But they stopped caring about paying customers like me, so I can't really care about them here.
Feel sorry for the small developers, but pardon me if I don't shed a tear for Capcom and their archaic DRM
Blaming hackers for Sony's insecure system seems a bit misguided. When they see a hole, they exploit it, which incidentally is what I say to girls I meet. p.s. I'm a virgin.
@kwikpwn
Let me get this straight, you think 3 weeks of outed online ( mind you the consoles themselves still work) is worst than one of the greatest gaming fuck ups in history.
You just compared an exploding car to a nuclear explosion. Both are but ones clearly way worse than the other.
Stop sipping that hateraid man, its fucking with your perception.
Let me get this straight, you think 3 weeks of outed online ( mind you the consoles themselves still work) is worst than one of the greatest gaming fuck ups in history.
You just compared an exploding car to a nuclear explosion. Both are but ones clearly way worse than the other.
Stop sipping that hateraid man, its fucking with your perception.
Also id like to point out the complete irony of the situation considering capcoms draconian DRM policies.
I don't feel a bit of pity for them.
I don't feel a bit of pity for them.
@Black Nexus
Simply put, yes. In terms of total cost to their respective companies. I think it's already worse for Sony.
Not to mention the load of bad PR this has generated for Sony. I'm sure the average consumer on the street knows oboit Sony's recent problems, & probably wouldn't touch a PS3 if you paid them to do so.
Simply put, yes. In terms of total cost to their respective companies. I think it's already worse for Sony.
Not to mention the load of bad PR this has generated for Sony. I'm sure the average consumer on the street knows oboit Sony's recent problems, & probably wouldn't touch a PS3 if you paid them to do so.
@kwikpwn
Sonys insurance looks to cover most of this as it was an attack, also most likely stocks and everything will return to normal as soon as the network comes up.
Truth be told this probably won't effect them for more than a month or two, their really isn't any long term damage that won't covered by insurance and can't be fix with a check or two.
The only reason this seems half as bad as it does is because of all the FUD spread around and the fanboys who ate it up but come E3 no ones gonna remember this.
like I said car explosion, its bad but nothing a new engine a little body work and a nice coat of paint can't fix.
Sonys insurance looks to cover most of this as it was an attack, also most likely stocks and everything will return to normal as soon as the network comes up.
Truth be told this probably won't effect them for more than a month or two, their really isn't any long term damage that won't covered by insurance and can't be fix with a check or two.
The only reason this seems half as bad as it does is because of all the FUD spread around and the fanboys who ate it up but come E3 no ones gonna remember this.
like I said car explosion, its bad but nothing a new engine a little body work and a nice coat of paint can't fix.
I'm kinda making the crazy connection between Capcom losing money and not making/releasing games and AA: Miles Edgeworth getting the shaft as a collateral. New rage has begun.
By the way I'm just kidding. I hope Capcom gets a lot of sweet dollars. Maybe I'll buy a couple more games at full retail price again, just for them.
By the way I'm just kidding. I hope Capcom gets a lot of sweet dollars. Maybe I'll buy a couple more games at full retail price again, just for them.
@Black Nexus
We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If the PSN debacle has already cost Capcom "hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in revenue", I can't even begin to imagine the cost to Sony up to now. Capcoms only taking a hit from lost sales. Sony's losing sales and has to incur the cost of the investigation, the security teams they've brought in and the cost of rebuilding their entire network infrastucture.
That's just up to this point, imagine what it cost them for the million dollar identity theft insurance for every U.S. PSN account. It must be staggering. I'd imigine quite a bit of litigation will follow as well.
We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If the PSN debacle has already cost Capcom "hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in revenue", I can't even begin to imagine the cost to Sony up to now. Capcoms only taking a hit from lost sales. Sony's losing sales and has to incur the cost of the investigation, the security teams they've brought in and the cost of rebuilding their entire network infrastucture.
That's just up to this point, imagine what it cost them for the million dollar identity theft insurance for every U.S. PSN account. It must be staggering. I'd imigine quite a bit of litigation will follow as well.
@kwikpwn
Believe it not having work for companies like this I can tell you there usually very prepared for such things, thus I'm guessing why that's why their call mega corps. This will probably be a bump in the road for them.
If anything this is gonna damage the little guy, its a bump for Sony but to a small studio out there that depends on psn revenue this just cost them everything. Its always gonna be the little guy who gets it the worst in these situations.
Believe it not having work for companies like this I can tell you there usually very prepared for such things, thus I'm guessing why that's why their call mega corps. This will probably be a bump in the road for them.
If anything this is gonna damage the little guy, its a bump for Sony but to a small studio out there that depends on psn revenue this just cost them everything. Its always gonna be the little guy who gets it the worst in these situations.
@kwikpwn you are right sony going to loose shitloads of money, but as a whole I disagree with yiu and side with black nexus. Your opinions are usually rational but your trying this to make it look as bad as rrod? Seriously?? Bro why you acting so delusional. Also to make it think like sony just going to die out from this, you really must be a sony hater. :p
Omg so many mistakes in that post! Hah your opinions are usually rational but your trying to make this look as bad as rrod* and also to make it look like sony is just going to die out from this*
Sheesh... once again, butthurt and assumptions aside, Sony's not in as big of trouble as people think. Observe:
http://bitmob.com/articles/detective-work-reveals-psn-servers-up-to-date
Sony didn't store CC#s in plain text, Sony did actually update their servers, and in reality just about everything else you've seen in chats and blogs you should take for what they are: unreliable shit.
If Sony actually played by the rules, kept everything updated, and got jumped by entitled hackers by abusing a security hole before Sony could fix it... is it still Sony's fault? Sony didn't handle the PR well, but it's clear they're far from incompetent.
As for the money losses... everyone's gonna lose something out of it, some more than others. This is why you don't side with the hackers... EVER... because it ruins your hobby, gamers!
http://bitmob.com/articles/detective-work-reveals-psn-servers-up-to-date
Sony didn't store CC#s in plain text, Sony did actually update their servers, and in reality just about everything else you've seen in chats and blogs you should take for what they are: unreliable shit.
If Sony actually played by the rules, kept everything updated, and got jumped by entitled hackers by abusing a security hole before Sony could fix it... is it still Sony's fault? Sony didn't handle the PR well, but it's clear they're far from incompetent.
As for the money losses... everyone's gonna lose something out of it, some more than others. This is why you don't side with the hackers... EVER... because it ruins your hobby, gamers!
This shit will hurt Sony long-term as well as short term. How do I know? I'm a PS3 and Wii only owner, and I can tell you right now that when the next generarion of consoles releases, I'm going to have to think long and hard before I buy the next PlayStation.
I might not do it. And that is something I never thought I'd say before all of this.
I might not do it. And that is something I never thought I'd say before all of this.
@SayWord
I think it's wrong to dismiss the impact this is having and will continue to have on Sony. Exposing 100 million plus user accounts to identity theft is not something people quickly forget about.
Take a look at this "url=http://www.ksl.com/?nid=968&sid=15473867]Which console is right for your family?[/url]" article. Scroll on down to the PS3 Pros and Cons section.
This is a VERY big deal. I don't see it as sensationalist on my part to think that when we look back on this generation the PSN debacle will be considered far worse than the RRoD ever was.
I think it's wrong to dismiss the impact this is having and will continue to have on Sony. Exposing 100 million plus user accounts to identity theft is not something people quickly forget about.
Take a look at this "url=http://www.ksl.com/?nid=968&sid=15473867]Which console is right for your family?[/url]" article. Scroll on down to the PS3 Pros and Cons section.
This is a VERY big deal. I don't see it as sensationalist on my part to think that when we look back on this generation the PSN debacle will be considered far worse than the RRoD ever was.
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