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Tablets are NOT portable gaming devices and portable gaming devices are NOT tablets. A tablet is a device with a touchscreen that is primarily focused on other activities such as email and other work/business related activities. You do not buy a tablet for the games much like you wouldn't buy a 3DS/Vita for web browsing or email, it is just nice that it can be done.
Tablets are made to function much differently than a portable gaming device. The UI and programs are just a small slice of how they are different. Now the Wii U GamePad is NOT a tablet since you can't take it on the go. As soon as the Wii U is powered off, the device becomes useless. The fact that it stores no information on it and requires another device to constantly be on in order to useful is a dead giveaway that this is not a tablet. Glorified GBA/GameCube Connector sure, but Tablet...no way.
This is pretty crazy to me that this is a confusing issue for some people.
Tablets are made to function much differently than a portable gaming device. The UI and programs are just a small slice of how they are different. Now the Wii U GamePad is NOT a tablet since you can't take it on the go. As soon as the Wii U is powered off, the device becomes useless. The fact that it stores no information on it and requires another device to constantly be on in order to useful is a dead giveaway that this is not a tablet. Glorified GBA/GameCube Connector sure, but Tablet...no way.
This is pretty crazy to me that this is a confusing issue for some people.
@Jinx
I guess we're just in different camps, then. I'm excited BECAUSE it's a lot like the Wii, which was my absolute favorite gaming platform this generation. Underpowered or not, NO other gaming machine saw as much playtime for me than the Wii did, and I don't own a single family-oriented title. I also think the Wii Remote+Nunchuk is the best control scheme we've ever had if programmed correctly, but I sincerely doubt I'm speaking for the majority when I say that.
We're getting an HD Nintendo console, and personally, that's all I really want. I don't need it to have photo-realistic graphics. But I do have to say, I agree with you about The Witcher 2 on PC. I just got a new gaming machine that can run that sucker at 1080p with almost everything turned up, and yes, I want a Zelda that looks like that. :P
@Sheeva
Did you even think before you typed that, or was it just sporadic?
I guess we're just in different camps, then. I'm excited BECAUSE it's a lot like the Wii, which was my absolute favorite gaming platform this generation. Underpowered or not, NO other gaming machine saw as much playtime for me than the Wii did, and I don't own a single family-oriented title. I also think the Wii Remote+Nunchuk is the best control scheme we've ever had if programmed correctly, but I sincerely doubt I'm speaking for the majority when I say that.
We're getting an HD Nintendo console, and personally, that's all I really want. I don't need it to have photo-realistic graphics. But I do have to say, I agree with you about The Witcher 2 on PC. I just got a new gaming machine that can run that sucker at 1080p with almost everything turned up, and yes, I want a Zelda that looks like that. :P
@Sheeva
Did you even think before you typed that, or was it just sporadic?
Who cares what people call it. Getting huffy over semantics is probably the most useless things to get huffy about.
@BlindsideDork
You're thinking of only one kind of tablet, that is a tablet computer, such an Apple's iPad. Not all tablets serve the same purpose or function. In the end it doesn't matter what people call this thing, but trying to argue that all tablets are the same and that people aren't allowed to use that word for slightly different things is just asinine.
You're thinking of only one kind of tablet, that is a tablet computer, such an Apple's iPad. Not all tablets serve the same purpose or function. In the end it doesn't matter what people call this thing, but trying to argue that all tablets are the same and that people aren't allowed to use that word for slightly different things is just asinine.
I'm inclined to call it a tablet. It's not a tablet in the same sense that an iPad is a tablet, but there's more than one sense of "tablet". I mean, those input devices that people draw on are tablets, those laptops with the swivel hinge and the touchscreen are tablets, a flat slab of wax you carve your notes into if you're ancient greek is a tablet. There's lots of ways to be a tablet.
I'm inclined to say that the anus is not a tablet, because the touch interface is not flat, but I'm absolutely inclined to wall the Wii-U controller a tablet. Plus, I think "Nintablet" is almost as catchy as "Wiimote."
I'm inclined to say that the anus is not a tablet, because the touch interface is not flat, but I'm absolutely inclined to wall the Wii-U controller a tablet. Plus, I think "Nintablet" is almost as catchy as "Wiimote."
Pictured: A Douchefriar.
Seriously, I google image searched "douche friar" and actually got a result. God I love the internet sometimes.
@Penguingod
Go look up "The ugly Duckling"
...^___^ /Evil grin
@long John
The ds came BEFORE the Iphone.
Go look up "The ugly Duckling"
...^___^ /Evil grin
@long John
The ds came BEFORE the Iphone.
Thank you for auto correcting semantic into a Norton product, phone. That doesn't make me look like a jackass at all.
More like a douchefriar. Or douchepontiff.
More like a douchefriar. Or douchepontiff.
Probably. It's Tim Tebow so who knows. This is the guy responsible for making jackasses across the nation kneel in pictures on their facebook pages for 3 months straight.
@flintmech
I am implying that this article is a satire, just like Holmes does damn near every week. Did you know that tablets only have multitouch and never buttons? Did you know this is a public service announcement?
How can you not recognize the humor? I could see if this was an isolated incident, but this is a staple of weekend Dtoid. Do you not remember the time he trolled Penny Arcade and they bought it, then he had to tell them it was a joke?
I am implying that this article is a satire, just like Holmes does damn near every week. Did you know that tablets only have multitouch and never buttons? Did you know this is a public service announcement?
How can you not recognize the humor? I could see if this was an isolated incident, but this is a staple of weekend Dtoid. Do you not remember the time he trolled Penny Arcade and they bought it, then he had to tell them it was a joke?
Why would anyone call it a tablet? That makes no sense to me and I hope it doesn't catch on. A tablet is an independent device while the WiiU controller is obviously dependent on the WiiU and is just a controller with a touch screen.
@Tris
I want to make fun of him, I do. He perfectly exemplifies a Douchefriar.
But goddamn it, his rushing touchdowns saved my fantasy football ass last season.
Total Douchefriar though.
I want to make fun of him, I do. He perfectly exemplifies a Douchefriar.
But goddamn it, his rushing touchdowns saved my fantasy football ass last season.
Total Douchefriar though.
@ima420r
Dependency has nothing to do with it. It's a tablet form factor. Thus, there's nothing wrong with calling it a tablet(-like) controller, which honestly is all people have really been doing. That is not to suggest that it is the same thing as a tablet PC.
Dependency has nothing to do with it. It's a tablet form factor. Thus, there's nothing wrong with calling it a tablet(-like) controller, which honestly is all people have really been doing. That is not to suggest that it is the same thing as a tablet PC.
I disagree with Holmes' opinions on the term "art game", but I agree with him on this one. Also, I'd like to point out how silly it feels to be arguing about a piece of plastic with some gizmos in it designed for entertainment purposes. Now, onto my argument.
For me, a modern "tablet" is a thing that has a sleek form factor, is designed to be carried around, meant primarily for media consumption (games, movies, books, music, e-mail and surfing).
Basically, the gist of my argument is that "tablet" to me means "a laptop that's smaller, easier to use on the go, has a longer battery, but doesn't do as much". And the Wii U controller isn't those things.
TLDR version of the below (please don't read below because it's pointless):
Tablets are for: Reading, Surfing, Movies, Games, Music, etc.
GamePad screen is for: Movies, Games, ... Games (and Nintendo's web lol browser lol for five minutes so you can use that "curtain" feature to reveal Goatse to your friends).
Here's my brain spillage (don't read it!)
Now obviously the Wii U GamePad is going to be able to do a lot of these same media things. But the games you'll be playing will be completely different (except for Angry Birds which is confirmed for literally every console and device... but not Wii U [yet]).
Wii U games will incorporate the touch screen, and some might even use it as the primary form of input, but a stylus-based design will create entirely different gameplay experiences than the standard multitouch of current tablet devices.
Movies: The Wii U controller will probably be used for these quite a bit, with Netflix and whatnot. Not that I'd ever want to watch a movie on a little screen when the HDTV is right there; I'd rather just play Mario or Tetris on it if the home theater is occupied. I don't watch movies on my tablet much, either, for the same reason. So basically, my argument doesn't stand up much on this aspect. Onto the next...
No one read books on this thing, please.
Music, that might work. I can see using the controller to listen to music before bed or something (with headphones of course). But here's where tablets and the GamePad diverge: You're not gonna gather 'round the GamePad to listen to the latest album from The Killers. Meanwhile the HP TouchPad (tablet) has surprisingly high-quality speakers that can easily fill a room with pretty smooth jams.
Also, all these games, music, movies, and books can be carried directly on the tablet device; whereas on the GamePad you'll have to stream them from your Wii U so you're obviously not leaving the house with it or anything.
I've said way too much already. The GamePad SHOULDN'T be called a tablet just because it has a screen on it that you can touch. It shouldn't be called a tablet because the term carries the idea that said device will be capable of certain functions, many of which the GamePad is not intended for.
For me, a modern "tablet" is a thing that has a sleek form factor, is designed to be carried around, meant primarily for media consumption (games, movies, books, music, e-mail and surfing).
Basically, the gist of my argument is that "tablet" to me means "a laptop that's smaller, easier to use on the go, has a longer battery, but doesn't do as much". And the Wii U controller isn't those things.
TLDR version of the below (please don't read below because it's pointless):
Tablets are for: Reading, Surfing, Movies, Games, Music, etc.
GamePad screen is for: Movies, Games, ... Games (and Nintendo's web lol browser lol for five minutes so you can use that "curtain" feature to reveal Goatse to your friends).
Here's my brain spillage (don't read it!)
Now obviously the Wii U GamePad is going to be able to do a lot of these same media things. But the games you'll be playing will be completely different (except for Angry Birds which is confirmed for literally every console and device... but not Wii U [yet]).
Wii U games will incorporate the touch screen, and some might even use it as the primary form of input, but a stylus-based design will create entirely different gameplay experiences than the standard multitouch of current tablet devices.
Movies: The Wii U controller will probably be used for these quite a bit, with Netflix and whatnot. Not that I'd ever want to watch a movie on a little screen when the HDTV is right there; I'd rather just play Mario or Tetris on it if the home theater is occupied. I don't watch movies on my tablet much, either, for the same reason. So basically, my argument doesn't stand up much on this aspect. Onto the next...
No one read books on this thing, please.
Music, that might work. I can see using the controller to listen to music before bed or something (with headphones of course). But here's where tablets and the GamePad diverge: You're not gonna gather 'round the GamePad to listen to the latest album from The Killers. Meanwhile the HP TouchPad (tablet) has surprisingly high-quality speakers that can easily fill a room with pretty smooth jams.
Also, all these games, music, movies, and books can be carried directly on the tablet device; whereas on the GamePad you'll have to stream them from your Wii U so you're obviously not leaving the house with it or anything.
I've said way too much already. The GamePad SHOULDN'T be called a tablet just because it has a screen on it that you can touch. It shouldn't be called a tablet because the term carries the idea that said device will be capable of certain functions, many of which the GamePad is not intended for.
thanks for all these words on why this tablet isn't a tablet, you've really convinced me that it isn't what it is.
So how is that tablet workin for yea Holmesy? Does it tickle your pickle? Touch your inner tablet lust?
A mass amount of stfu's need to be handed out to the commenters here.
Massive walls of text?
Name calling?
Over this shit?
Please. Must be a slow news day.
Also it's a tablet. A shitty tablet. A gametab. And it's going to rock.
Massive walls of text?
Name calling?
Over this shit?
Please. Must be a slow news day.
Also it's a tablet. A shitty tablet. A gametab. And it's going to rock.
"Do you not remember the time he trolled Penny Arcade and they bought it, then he had to tell them it was a joke?"
Holmes is a troll, then?
When you need to tell people it's a joke (because barely anyone/your audience), you're kind of doing it wrong.
Holmes is a troll, then?
When you need to tell people it's a joke (because barely anyone/your audience), you're kind of doing it wrong.
So I read the article and instead of wieghing in with an opinion, just thought I'd let you know it's just "ATM" not "ATM machine".
Sure looks like an ipad jammed into the middle of a controller to me. You'd have to be a one-eyed fanboy not to make that connection. Oh, wait...
@Alan
A satire of what? Or whom? Is there a group of people complaining about terminology, that Holmes has decided to parody with this post? I'm not totally sure you are using the word "satire" correctly.
That said, I wish I could believe you. I used to think the same way. I used to really think Holmes was really just trolling everyone and I got a huge kick out of it. But I just don't see it anymore. Either he lost his touch or I saw one too many completely absurd claims and accusations that made me realize that the man is for real.
A satire of what? Or whom? Is there a group of people complaining about terminology, that Holmes has decided to parody with this post? I'm not totally sure you are using the word "satire" correctly.
That said, I wish I could believe you. I used to think the same way. I used to really think Holmes was really just trolling everyone and I got a huge kick out of it. But I just don't see it anymore. Either he lost his touch or I saw one too many completely absurd claims and accusations that made me realize that the man is for real.
Brilliant description Holmes, your journalistic abilities really shine in this gem. Stick to dry humping Blow's leg and blathering on about shit games nobody cares about.
@flintmech
It's probably a satire of the kind of conversation that happened in the comments section. Lots of semantics that don't mean a good god damn being argued with vehemence.
Shit, everyone seemed to take it serious when he wrote that article about Keith Apicary being kicked out of PAX. Shit's super dry.
It's probably a satire of the kind of conversation that happened in the comments section. Lots of semantics that don't mean a good god damn being argued with vehemence.
Shit, everyone seemed to take it serious when he wrote that article about Keith Apicary being kicked out of PAX. Shit's super dry.
I'm sure after this anus thing takes off, our associations will change and we'll start referring to new touch devices from here on out anus simulators.
what is the point of this article? and since when is multitouch something that defines what is or isnt a tablet? as if there has never been a tablet without multitouch.
And whats with the tone of this article? it almost sounds like he has taken personal offense to the connection people have made to the controller and touchscreen devices like the ipad and what not.
relax buddy. its completely warranted. And although it in itself is not a tablet,aside from it not having multitouch, when it comes to gaming, web browsing, and who knows what apps that eventually get released, it will act just as a tablet does in similar situations.
also, it doesnt need multitouch because it has buttons and control sticks. Thank god. Automatically making it leaps and bounds better in the control department than any tablet, multitouch or not.
And whats with the tone of this article? it almost sounds like he has taken personal offense to the connection people have made to the controller and touchscreen devices like the ipad and what not.
relax buddy. its completely warranted. And although it in itself is not a tablet,aside from it not having multitouch, when it comes to gaming, web browsing, and who knows what apps that eventually get released, it will act just as a tablet does in similar situations.
also, it doesnt need multitouch because it has buttons and control sticks. Thank god. Automatically making it leaps and bounds better in the control department than any tablet, multitouch or not.
I would comment on how incredibly boring, useless, vapid, and nitpicky this article is, but then again, I have far better thing to do.
Wait...
Wait...
As someone who also has a dry sense of humor, maybe I'm projecting, but guys/gals, how the fuck are you all so angry over this? It's pretty clear (to me), with some of the outlandish things said, that isn't really serious.
@Alan: You haven't got back to me on my douchfriar questions bro. Wtf?
@Alan: You haven't got back to me on my douchfriar questions bro. Wtf?
@Phil
What happens in the Douchfriar Temple stays in the Douchefriar Temple. All I'm saying is show up with a clean towel, brother.
What happens in the Douchfriar Temple stays in the Douchefriar Temple. All I'm saying is show up with a clean towel, brother.
Wow, Dtoid has a collective stick up their ass these days...even holmes is no fun anymore. At least Chad hasnt been corrupted.....yet.
So i read over 100 comments and no one jokes about the anus simulator?sigh. On a more serious note you have some interesting ideas Holmes, and while i agree with most(art games for instant) i find this one something that rocks my boat.I consider it a tablet. My opinions are just that my opinions and im sure your prone to agree that everyone has a right to their opinions.
Jim is giving us a talking to over gay stuff, holmes is flipping out over tablets,....this is a symptom of an illness in gaming culture, or maybe just society in general.
Video games are supposed to be fun. This is why you negative assholes are so awful....the wii bashing and the constant complaining....it doesnt really need to be a constant state of mind. Learn to enjoy this hobby one of these days....you might not be so uptight and dumb in the head, you're not as insightful as you think.
Dtoid, STFU about social issues that are already shoved down our throats everywhere else. Its lame, and its ruining the site.
Video games are supposed to be fun. This is why you negative assholes are so awful....the wii bashing and the constant complaining....it doesnt really need to be a constant state of mind. Learn to enjoy this hobby one of these days....you might not be so uptight and dumb in the head, you're not as insightful as you think.
Dtoid, STFU about social issues that are already shoved down our throats everywhere else. Its lame, and its ruining the site.
Not going to read all the comments, so I apologize if this has already been said.
Whatever Apple does seems to dictate the perception of anything similar in appearance. Whether other tablet PCs offer different functionality, they are compared immediately to the iPad because of their appearance. Android phones have always been similarly compared to the iPhone. The market leader tends to be the benchmark of comparison for similar products.
This doesn't fall neatly into those categories, but it is different enough from a standard gamepad that people struggle to find a concise description that encompasses its appearance and function. "Tablet controller" isn't the best, but it gives some indication of what the thing is and does.
If Nintendo is dissatisfied with the perception, they should address it through a branding campaign to shift perception away from tablet comparisons. Other than that, people will always describe things in the most convenient way possible. This is a controller of fairly standard design, except that it has a prominent touch screen in the middle of it. Ergo, tablet controller.
Whatever Apple does seems to dictate the perception of anything similar in appearance. Whether other tablet PCs offer different functionality, they are compared immediately to the iPad because of their appearance. Android phones have always been similarly compared to the iPhone. The market leader tends to be the benchmark of comparison for similar products.
This doesn't fall neatly into those categories, but it is different enough from a standard gamepad that people struggle to find a concise description that encompasses its appearance and function. "Tablet controller" isn't the best, but it gives some indication of what the thing is and does.
If Nintendo is dissatisfied with the perception, they should address it through a branding campaign to shift perception away from tablet comparisons. Other than that, people will always describe things in the most convenient way possible. This is a controller of fairly standard design, except that it has a prominent touch screen in the middle of it. Ergo, tablet controller.
@ long john, the ds came out in 2004, iphone came out in 2007...
have to be a nerd and point that out.
have to be a nerd and point that out.
Thank you Holmes. Due to your extensive words to about, uh, something, I shall call it the AIDSmotronner.
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