This too is a monster we must stop.

Delete your facebooks! THE END IS NIGH!

Some motherfuckers just keep trying to ice skate up hill. Lawmakers new saw a bad idea backed by powerful interest groups that it didn't keep trying to drudge back up.

fuck if this wins i wont be able to watch zoofilia porn,necrofilia porn,child porn,girls eating shit from a cup porn....the internet is doomed!!!!

It was just a matter of time.

We will keep what is ours with fire and blood!

@THEvalrog
I know, right?? This shit is the really deal!

Microsoft stopped supporting SOPA once they saw how pissed we all got. The same thing will happen here.

I'd laugh hysterically if the the majority closes (heck, deletes) their facebook account in reaction to this.

But knowing the world they probably wouldn't

please tell me spoiler tags work here

holy shit spoiler tags work why haven't I used this sooner!

I think their idea is to keep on making these kind of bills until finally they manage to pass one that flew under the radar and then we're all screwed :-(

I really still can't understand why we think SOPA is over just because they've put it aside for now.. It'll come back if something else doesn't slip through, with many of its thoughts, first.

Honestly though, this one sounds much less like SOPA and much more like a digital Patriot Act. Which is -more or less- just as despicable, because its going to feed on peoples fears of terrorism to get support, while really having agendas that have nothing to do with those things.

I wish sometimes we'd just get to ask these people "what will it REALLY be used for?"

...Does anyone think that the ghost in the header is Jim in disguise? O.o;

Electronic old men

*Does Anyone *else* think*

Oops. ^_^;

we were discussing this in my cs class. as a comunity we must stopo this blatent breach of privacy. the day i get to peak into the private lives of the presedent and other members of office at my fancy is when they can try and pass this shit law. even then the key word is try.

we were discussing this in my cs class. as a comunity we must stop this blatent breach of privacy. the day i get to peak into the private lives of the presedent and other members of office at my fancy is when they can try and pass this shit law. even then the key word is try.

@gorescream

Like this, right? How the hell long have we had spoiler tags on here? wtf?

At this rate, it will pass. Much like the draconian Tokyo manga bill.

Unfortunately, this means everybody needs to get more involved in politics :sigh:

Big buisness and government coming together to force humanity backwards in time. Why progress when we can be violently thrown back into an intellectual dark age.

Unfortunately, with this sort of thing one most practice the wise words of Mad-Eye Moody. Constant Vigilance!

Wizards! Gorescream and Tristrix, wizards the both of you!
Begone! BEGONE I SAY!

Seriously though, this bill sounds a bit too similar to "three-strikes-out" legislation, such as they have in France. No country should strive for something like that...

"Due to the opposition the bill has experienced, the co-sponsors are planning to amend the bill to address many of the concerns of its opponents - including limiting its use to a more limited definition of cyber-threats, and stating that the "theft of intellectual property" refers to the theft of research and development. In addition, there will now be penalties if private companies or the government uses data from CISPA for purposes "unrelated to cyberthreats."" So.... we'll wait and see?

@Janklogs Why? If they restrict it, then it sounds like a fine bill, meant for stopping the intrusion and compromise of networks. The main problems people had with this bill were the definition of "cyber-threats", the inclusion of IP, and being able to grant private companies free usage to the info, which, if these changes actually succeed, would all be solved.

@Jason, do you honestly trust our elected officials who can barely turn on a pc let alone use it to make any sort of bill involving the web. There is a better way that saves people without censoring the web

@agent9

I think we all see where this is going though. This shit is just going to keep coming back up over and over and fucking over again until SOMETHING eventually passes, don't you think? I don't think our goal should be to stop them from passing any kind of internet-related legislation whatsoever, as much as I'd prefer they didn't. I think a more realistic and reasonable goal is to make sure that the bill that inevitably DOES get pushed through is as harmless as possible, that way everyone can just shut the fuck up and move on.

Sorry I still have blue balls from January.

@Agent9 Can someone explain to me how exactly this bill is censorship? Because everyone throws that work around, and I haven't heard an explanation as to why or how.

I will join another fight. I remeber hearing something about the Obama administration still supports SOPA.

B-B-B-But this aint gonna be as fun as the last time, on the count of the fact that CISPA doesnt sound as funny as SOPA. Ah well

@tristrix
Isn't that how these kind of things always start, though? First they get there foot in the door, and just keep changing the rules until it matches what they wanted in the first place.
It would be nice if we could settle on such a compromise, but it seems highly unlikely.
-_-;

Facebook is supporting a bill that tries to get rid of online privacy? That's a bad image for them.

@Jason, under this vague bill companies and the Gov. are basically given unrestrained abilities to meddle and use your personal information if they suspect "anything", that means privat surfing can auto label you as a threat even if your simply looking at my little poney. this puts all our private information at an even grater risk for what, stupidity. It’s like a cop stopping a Hispanic because he thinks he could be an illegal, or a cop stopping a black guy because he looks "suspicious".

holy shit good thing i don't put any true information on these sites :P

@ronin

I don't really want to start arguing the slippery slope theory when we don't need to do so. See, here's the thing. I don't think these people that are authoring and sponsoring these bills we hate are evil people. I don't think they're doing this out of malice or even necessarily greed. I believe these people think they're doing what's right, to improve things, and they believe that because they're ignorant.

I should take a moment here to point out the difference between ignorance and stupidity. They're not stupid. I don't think you can be truly stupid and get into such a high elected office. I do think you can be ignorant though, and that's what I think is happening here. I'm ignorant of how the touch screen on my PS Vita works. I'm smart enough to understand it, I just don't possess that information. That's ignorance. These people in congress writing and sponsoring these internet censorship bills are smart enough to understand why they're wrong, they just lack the information necessary to reach that conclusion.

Thus I think its our job to continue trying to educate them. I realize we've BEEN trying to do that for quite a while now, but I think we need to KEEP trying, because you have to understand, we're not the people they really want to hear any of this from. It'd be a bit like passing a law against esports and having a bunch of people in Ryu t-shirts telling you why that's wrong, ya know?

I do believe we'll eventually get through though, and I do believe there's some merit buried deep within this bill somewhere. Intellectual property (as in R&D, that kind of thing) does need to be protected. The patent system is a mess. Patent trolls are out of control. Something absolutely does need to be done, they're just doing it very very wrong. That's why I don't think we need to be fighting every single bill of this kind that we see. We need to seek an amicable solution for everyone.

Heeeere we go again....

@tristrix
I don't think they are necessarily bad people or anything like that. (Although I wouldn't' be surprised if some of them where actually stupid... ^_^;)
I didn't mean to come off as thinking that.
However, as you have said, you don't have to be a bad person or intend malice to do bad or stupid things.

I'm gonna be completely honest with you Jim, if SOPA and PIPA have taught me anything, it's that nerds care way to much about the internet.

Over the last year we lost the right to protest with the Trespass Bill, the right to due process of law with Defense Act, and the Obama Administration has all be confirmed that the government can kill you at any moment if it deems you a "threat" in the aftermath of the target killing of Anwar al-Awlaki.

I honestly don't give a fuck anymore. We have more important shit we need to start caring about. Wake the fuck up, kiddies.

@Tristrix

I wish I could think they were all just ignorant. But after some of the stories I've seen where politicians straight up take bribes in exchange for favours to corporations and executives it's kind of hard to see this as, 'I'm sure they just want to do good things that help everyone, but they're just ignorant.'

In America it's legal for politicians to take bribes from corporations. As long as that is true I don't think the government will ever really be for the people.

This shall not stand.

Here we go again!

@ctg, we get it but this is a game site hence why we are posting about this issue and talking about it. it's not that we dont care about those other things, because we do but on a site about video games and the internet many other matters simply dont apply to this site. if you want to talk about other things than go to a news site comments section and meet our alter personas there, otherwise lets keep it game related.

Meanwhile, when they aren't attempting to control the internet, they're actually passing bills that are far worse in the name of security and fightin' terrism.

@ctg

I can multitask. I assure you, I'm paying attention.

@taerdin

I really don't think things are nearly so cloak and dagger as that. I freely acknowledge the fact that lobbyists and campaign contributions and the like can give the appearance of impropriety and that sucks. I wish it wasn't that way. That doesn't mean everyone in congress is a corrupt scumbag though.

Seriously, think about it. If there really was that much corruption, you know someone would be blowing the fucking lid right off it on a daily basis. There's no way EVERYONE is in on the conspiracy. Some pissed off congressman that doesn't think he's getting his fair share, some journalist wanting a Pulitzer, some no-name blogger who wants to be famous... someone would be spilling the fucking beans.

Point being, the appearance if impropriety isn't the same thing as outright cronyism and corruption. And hell dude, even if it is, what can we do about it right now? We're certainly not going to overhaul the entire legislative branch of the american federal government between now and the time this bill goes to a floor vote. We've got no choice right now but to work within the system we've got and hope the revolution will be televised later.

Only Agent Cody Banks can save us now

I fucking hate this bullshit. Also just so you all know, Netflix is hugely behind this CISPA shit as well.

Canada has a bill like this in the works too but I am not sure what it is called, but I know it is basically SOPA.

This with Europes new spy on everyone thing.. The internet is really going to shit.

We need a new internet that is for the people.

@Janklogs

There's been an underground network for years. You just have to know how to access it.

Good job posting this, Jim.

Let's go, guys! Gametime! FUCK CISPA!