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PS3 won't be the comeback kid, according to Wall Street Journal photo

The Playtation 3 continues to be dragged over hot coals by those far more influential than myself. Not only has Alley Insider and a number of analysts ripped a pound of flesh from the Black Box o' Blu-ray, The Wall Street Journal has decided to take a piece of the action too.

According to the article, hope is fading for the PS3 as a "comeback player," with a backfiring pricing strategy and refusal to cut any prices despite the recession making consumers more discerning than usual. 

The Journal also picks up the "PS3 has no games" argument and shares it with a wider audience, perpetuating a stigma that is unlikely to go away for the remainder of this generation: "Sony used to have a stable of exclusive games. But in recent years, Microsoft has persuaded most game publishers to release highly anticipated games to it and Sony at the same time."

Once again, some of the criticism is unfair, and some of of it is warranted, but all of it is being read by potential customers who are already scared of making a bad purchase. While Sony continues to dig its heels in and remains bull-headed and arrogant, its very dignity is being undermined.


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PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:43
PappaDukes
Wait, the PS3 plays games!

*Runs to MalWart with pockets full of change*
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:45
AgentMOO
I still think they should have launched GoW 2on the PS3, with the graphical quality of the game, all it needed was a resolution bump to be considered "next gen" at that time.

Sony needs to hurry up with God of War 3 and Gran Turismo, Killzone and Resistance may be very good games but they do not have the franchise cred to drum up new interest.
skruloos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:47
skruloos
I don't think that they jumped on the PS3 has no games bandwagon. They did, however, focus on the fact that Sony isn't holding on to their exclusives as much as they did in the past. MGS4 and Little Big Planet have been the PS3's biggest shining exclusive stars. The PS3 needs more than that.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:48
AgentMOO
Correction - They need to hurry with GT and GOW, but Resistance and Killzone are floundering
Tha Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:48
Tha Meat
Oh what the hell does the Wall Street Journal know!
Wtfrawl's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:51
Wtfrawl
Why are people hating on the PS3, I love mine, sure Sony has made a few mistakes, but who hasn't really? And I'm tired of people saying the PS3 has "no games", it has the same games as the 360 and a bunch of good exclusives. Why can't people just admit that they're both great consoles? Now the Wii on the other hand...it's just like the two's retarded little brother that gets all of the attention.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:53
silvain
Sony is completely to blame here. Keeping high prices during a deflationary recession means you will fail. It is that simple.

Luxury item spending fell 34% this Christmas. Electronics fell 27%. The American consumer is broke. That is all.
the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 11:53
the Golden Avatar
This year I have played my PS2 more than my PS3.
NukaCola's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:18
NukaCola
PS3 is an incredible console. Sony needs Square-Enix to release a PS3 remake of Final Fantasy VII if they want the console to sell.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:23
pedrovay2003
@Wtfrawl

I love my PS3 too, and personally think it's better than the 360. The problem is that Sony really botched up the launch of the system, and in addition to the fact that the console-selling titles are a little lacking, a lot of the time their updates don't concentrate on the gaming portion of the machine.

For example, instead of making an update to let us log into more than one profile at a time, or to let us use more than one headset simultaneously, they instead give us an update to add a pause button to the mini music player that no one uses anyway.
GooN's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:31
GooN
Yes the PS3 is total trash..
Its not that it has no games, it's that the games are the same as the XBOX360's.

In the beginning, they made the same games 360 released a YEAR prior.

then the catch up and make Resistance 2 and LBP. Both games are okay but are not selling like Halo, Gears2, and Fable 2. (Even if fable did suck IMO)

Anyway, the PS3 showed 'heavy rain' videos a couple of months before they released the PS3... 2 years later and still no 'Heavy Rain'
Its like they have no future ideas, just catch up to xbox360 listed games and JRPG's that suck ass.

@ CypherVR - you have made a grown man piss himself at work.

@ the Golden Avatar - I played my PSP!!! more than my PS3.
TKurata's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:32
TKurata
like most mass market entertainment, the best finishes last in terms of sales. goddamn shame, i love my PS3. I play my Xbox when I have to, (Castle Crashers, Braid, Left 4 Dead), and consider the Wii to be an overpriced piece of junk.

C'mon Sony get your shit together and market this beast correctly!!!
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:34
casualweaponry
I blame marketing. Market the PS3 as an higher-class alternative to the 360. Show commercials of nothing but gameplay; keep that avant gard stuff out of there.

Show an entire family playing LBP, putting on silly costumes and making levels together. Show dude and his mates screaming encouragement/support for certain roles during a Resistance 2 co-op match. Rip a page from the Halo 3 playbook and show Old Snake as going on one last mission in MGS4. Remind people that the PS3 is actually the best Blu-ray player available.

The PS3 has plenty going for it. Sony just need to shoe everyone that.
TKurata's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:35
TKurata
yeah God of War 2 definetely should have came out of PS3, seemed like a giant misstep for Sony. Did you see MS releasing any huge 1st party games for Xbox1 after Xbox2 came out?
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:39
mix
Thats some good stuff casualweaponry and I assume it would work too.

And yeah no games at all so I'm not really playing; MGS4, LBP, Resistance2, Uncharted....etc nope not plaything them at all.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 12:58
aaronf
@mix:

"The PS3 doesn't have as many good exclusives as the Xbox" is fanboy speak for "The PS3 has some exclusives that I can't play anyway, so instead of admitting that I might be missing out on some good games, I'll just bash them to make myself feel more comfortable with purchasing an Xbox, which is currently at Microsoft for repair". Yeah, that was a pretty long sentence.

I purchased the PS3 over the Xbox. The Xbox has some pretty good exclusives such as GoW 2 and Fable 2. But I'm not going to bash them simply because I can't play them (yet, I can always just wait for the PC version). Fanboys are funny like that.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:06
linuxguy
@aaronf: you get my vote for comment of the day
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:23
Magesx
I would argue that a good 90% of the time, the PS3 has //better// exclusives, but they just don't sell, which means people just straight-up don't know about them. People don't normally bring up Valkyria Chronicles, but I'd play that shit over Fable II or something everyday. The difference is purely that Valk only sold 10 copies, as compared to Fable's 10 million.
Slique's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:24
Slique
Why is it that anyone who speaks ill about the PS3 is instantly called out as a fanboy? Can people no longer state a negative opinion anymore without there needing to be some kind of underlying agenda of hate?
wastedyears's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:31
wastedyears
Is it even REMOTELY possible that the people in charge of making financial decisions at Sony have a better idea about what to charge for their machine than a bunch of internet commentators?

Last time I checked, the PS2, and PSP were both selling well, so there are your lower priced machines. The PS3 is a hisher-end machine and so it costs more. Why is that so hard to figure out? Because Microsoft killed the Xbox years before they should have and rushed out shoddy hardware? Should Sony cripple the PS3 by taking out the harddrive and then start selling a vastly overpriced harddrive as an add on? Should Sony force all its users to make fruity little cartoon characters just so they can play a game? Maybe Sony should make a HD-DVD add on drive?
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:37
Holyetheline
@mix

Don't forget Rachet and Clank!
Vitamin Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:41
Vitamin Awesome
It really is unfortunate that this is happening. There are comments like "Well I love my PS3" and such, but the article isn't about people who already own PS3s, it's about the poor sales and looking at why that might be the case. I'm not about to pin it on lack of exclusives, as there are quite a few games that would justify my reason to get a PS3 (WipEout, Warhawk, MGS4, LPB, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Uncharted), there's just the issue of price. Sony made a big mistake by not cutting their price this holiday season, and as a result they were outsold by the wii (who didn't need a price cut) and the 360 (now that they have a SKU which makes it the least expensive to buy). I do want a PS3, but I'm not about to shell out 400 bucks to buy 7 games.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:47
Qraze
well, the time is coming for those who are on their 3rd 360 and it breaks then give and get a ps3. that time is almost here.

the ps3 has no games is a dead statement. it is expensive though but after you bought that 2nd 360 you have spent more money on the console than i did for my launch 60 gig ps3, which still works perfect.

sony dropped the ball but its only then when they have tasted defeat that they will push try even harder to regain their position. just waiting for them to get their heads outta their asses but hey, i got a ps3 and i love playing the games. its only gonna be good for those who don't have a triple. except full b/c. but i think a future patch in the future is coming to help that.

the shitty ports of past have now been fixed and show no difference between 360 ports of the same game.

the media is just jumping on a bandwagon to try to sound alike and get into this new gaming society that is their future money.

and i love the under-dogs of anything. end fanboy rant now.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:49
BattyAdroit
Once the price comes down, things'll be fine. The PS3 is not going anywhere.
thebza's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:51
thebza
i own both a 360 and PS3 and i have like 64 games for my 360 not including XBL... i have 4 (buzz quiz, mgs4, ratchet & klank, warhawk, and lbp) for ps3 (not including some PSN games like Super Stardust, Echcochrome, etc).

i like both systems, i hate fanboys, so from a fanboy hater's perspective :

360 wins this console generation, hands down. sorry that your mama only bought you a ps3 kids, save your quarters, mow some lawns, and maybe you can get both systems and stop defending your ps3 like it's all that plus chicken, cuz it's not. it just isn't.
thebza's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:53
thebza
also PSN is poop, that's why it's free. i don't mind paying $50/year for XBL because it blows away PSN in every way imaginable.
thebza's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 13:55
thebza
also blueray is dead, online video streaming is the future (present)
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:04
Jim Sterling
I disagree that PSN is poop. It owns Xbox Live in several ways. Free themes that are more than just wallpaper, a far more convenient pricing structure and free-to-play are all excellent plus points.

Unfortunately, it suffers from the same problem everything PS3-related. Sony isn't doing enough with it. The PSN itself is great. Sony's handling of it is not.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:05
aaronf
@thebza: You have failed to produce a factual statement, and have instead put forth of plethora of subjective reason why *you* think the PS3 is inferior.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:14
whormongr
@ aaronf-
totally agree on the exclusives (at least the good ones)- most of the exclusives are available on pc as well at some point, so why buy a 360?
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:30
parrothead
Sony is too stubborn.
sogmasta's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:59
sogmasta
Howsabout this.

Numbers don't lie. The PS3's main customer to help regain new buisness and a bigger install base they need to cut the price on that console. 400 dollars is a xbox 360, a controller and a couple of games (maybe even wi-fi). At this point, with the wii's inovative and simple gameplay (and cheaper price) and the xbox 360 year head start and larger exclusives (and cheaper price....getting the theme here) it doesn't MATTER to the average fence-sitting customer about ps3 blu-ray player (which, most customers don't even know exist or CARE to know) or it's current exclusives. And the whole ps3 console is stronger in terms of graphics is now a moot point two times over (360 currently has slightly better looking versions and the wii doesn't need better looking games...just BETTER games).

Sony doesn't need to sell to intranet bloggers like us. We've already made a choice one way or another. They need to convince those wall street/post/sun etc parents or recession-felt customers. They need to know RIGHT NOW that if they plan to invest on anything more than 200 dollars then they'll get there monies worth RIGHT NOW.

I'll even help out the fanboys here. You mean to tell me, honestly and OBJECTIVELY, that if you went and made the 360 have the EXACT same amount of exclusives with the EXACT same amount of games but they keep their respect parts (built in blu-ray and wifi for ps3/ upgradablity for 360) and most importantly keep their price range...you mean to tell me you'd think ps3 could/should/would sell more than the 360??? In these times???
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 18:19
Kalmah
Jim, you gotta stop instigating these silly console wars.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/31/2008 04:40
JustLikeBuck
I don't expect the Wall Street Journal to know any "exclusives" past Mario, Gears of War, Street Fighter, and Sonic the Hedgehog.

I'm looking forward to the exclusive line-up of PS3 titles in 2009. What about the 360? Halo? Again? Halo: The RTS?

It's very cool and hip to slag off the PS3 these days. But I'm glad I got one only a few months ago.
x-cock-kilker's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/31/2008 23:57
x-cock-kilker
fuk ya ps3 de best fuk x-cock
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