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PS3 to catch up to Wii sales by 2011? photo

I dream of a day where I can get paid to make s**t up all day, but until then, I'll leave it to the analysts -- one of which thinks that the sales of the PS3 will catch up to the Nintendo Wii in 2011.

Economist.com gives us this nifty bar graph (above), with data supplied by Screen Digest. Their analysts think that the Wii will still lead by 2011, but the PS3 will come in a close second, with both selling more than 70 million units total. 

Their outlook for the Xbox 360 isn't so peachy, with sales reaching only about 40 million units in the same length of time.

With this season's holiday sales, we can agree that the Wii has a bright future, but I wonder what they figure will happen in the next couple of years that would have the PS3 total sales coming to almost double that of the Xbox 360. I couldn't even begin to guess, but then again, I'm not one of the guys they pay to sit around and make stuff up.








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Turtule Soup's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 15:53
Turtule Soup
Yay for ps3
Vegas's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 15:56
Vegas
Yay for graphs
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 15:57
CaffeinePowered
I can draw a graph in MS paint and claim it to be an infallible forecast too...but there may be some truth to this if the 360 can't break into the Japanese market.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 15:59
Danmartigan
Oh 2011? They forgot to include the stats for the XBOX Slim model, which will obviously be released by then- according to my analysis.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:01
Darren Nakamura
I'm curious what makes them think that the PS3 sales will have such a sharp change right at the beginning of their forecast region. The other two consoles maintain the same slope in the transition from what really happened to what they think will happen.

By the way, it's a line graph, not a bar graph.
Sgt Cheesecake's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:03
Sgt Cheesecake
The PS3 will catch up alright, but December 21, 2012 will roll around before it can speed past the Wii's sales figures.
Tiauguinho's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:05
Tiauguinho
I wonder if the PS3 will have any games worth mentioning by 2011? Or if the fanbois will still be screaming "LAIR FTW KEKEK!"
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:06
king3vbo
I sincerely doubt it
Carac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:09
Carac
I've got to call "out of their ass" data for that graph. Xbox 360 and Wii continue to outsell the PS3 2:1 and 3-4:1 and have done so for months. Another media outlet basing future predictions based solely on the previous console generation.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:15
Mushman
we all know that ANALysts are shit, but sometimes there right, now though it pains me to say it this graph could be correct,at the moment the wii is on a high, slick marketing, low price and a piss stupid demographic(the average joe) are all helping it to drive sales, but,but as we know, its games make a console, and im afraid the wii fails in that department.. eventually people wil want games that doesnt cater to the lowest common denominator, games that are actually stimulating, microsoft knows this, thats why the 360 has become a sucess, yes the fact that the 360 came out first helped it, but a slow steady stream of games that got progressivly better helped it to stay strong, ps3, yes has fucked up, but the recent steady surge in sales proves that slowly, sony are realising that the ps3 is a games machine, and not all of the other shit they call it, and now are capitalising on the first party games and the PS name, i love nintendo, but think that they are having extremly well short term gain, and long time loss, please nintendo, release more games, that are games, not shitty mini-games collection of even the shit stupid public will lose interest, sooo sorry for the fuckin long post guys, i hope it generates more debate
L0cky's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:21
L0cky
by the time nintendo is starting to lose market again (around 2011) they will launch a wii2 and ask another 250 with some slightly better grapichs or same as the ps3 and cash in again.
comradetrotskii's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:24
comradetrotskii
I could be reading this graph wrong but it appears they are forecasting the Wii will have sold 20 million by this years end. Now I know it's popular but to do so it's going to have to sell at least 5 million units (or just under 7 million according to nexgenwars.com) in the next 3 weeks. That isn't happening. If you can't make a reasonable forecast to the end of this year there is no way anybody is going to believe airy fairy predictions for the next 4. Of course these guys could be right with their figures but given how shit the production values of that graph are I doubt it.

Also the original document at screendigest.com is titled 256 bit Console Global Games Publishing Trends and Analysis, we really need to start using bits in all console related discussions again. Most meaningful term ever.
The_Psychopsilocybin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:29
The_Psychopsilocybin
I call shenanigans on this hunk of crap.
Zanch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:30
Zanch
What analysts fail to take into consideration is history. The console with the most games wins the console war EVERY time. It has been true with every generation. Processing power aqnd graphics never have anything to do with it. Unless the PS3 gets more developer support, it'll remain in last place. The 360 is where all the games are, which is why it'll win out in the end. MS doesn't need Japan for that.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:30
Mushman
i wish ANALysts were more reliable, but complety disregarding them is madness, even for us gamers
HipHop Junkie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:31
HipHop Junkie
I don't think it will take as long as 2011. I think that it will be in the next couple of years. PS3 has not tapped into any of their titles that carried their consoles in the past (Tekken, Gran Turismo, SOCOM, Metal Gear,...etc.). I have been a 360 fan up to this point, but this past weekend went out and bought a PS3. Not only did I like the Blu-Ray aspect, but I think they are going to have a run of games. As far as a console goes, PS3 is superior product (I have been through 5 XBOX's so far and counting....), but the only thing holding them back is the games. Once they get their heads out of their ass and go back to their titles that got them there, they will be fine.
comradetrotskii's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:31
comradetrotskii
[i]Of course these guys could be right with their figures but given how shit the production values of that graph are I doubt it.[/]

Scratch that shit. The graph appears to be the work of the economist.com based on the figures from Screendigest, so unless someone coughed up the cost of PS3 to get that report there is no way of knowing if the economists table acurately matches the figures of the original report.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:49
AgentMOO
Once they release talladega nights for the Wii all fucking hell will break loose
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:51
Excel-2011
That's a line graph, not a bar graph. See the lines?
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:52
parrothead
Where does the new Dreamcast fit in?
wonky360's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:52
wonky360
I say .....COCK.
20 million ps3's sold next year, wow, good luck. Not interested in remakes of games which started life a decade ago. The Wii-toy owners will continue to shift hardware but this market does not equate to success. Games per system owned ratio is the most important factor as this drives games development etc. As far as I am aware the 360 is very high on this. Take a look at the all time Metacritic games score for each platform, 360 is a very strong platform unlikely to loose its throat grip with the PS3. I would have loved the PS3 to be the hero that the PS1 was, but it seems that the brand has suffered too badly in the US and Europe to fully recover. Just like the PC Engine etc Japan will do its own thing and PS3 will be the success there it wants to be.
DTwirler's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:58
DTwirler
Will we still be caring about this batch of console wars by 2011? I know I won't.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 16:59
Mushman
@Parrothead,the Dreamcast sold 6 bill and took over sony,MS, nintendo, thats the graph for the losers of this generation(God how i hope that happens)
freeman1's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:17
freeman1
I predict that in 3011 PS3 will sell more in antique shops.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:20
DinnertimeNinja
Anyone else notice that according to that graph, the PS3 should reach, even exceed, the 360 in sales by what I think is the end of 2008?

All Sony has to do is sell 7 million consoles in a year and prevent Microsoft from selling any and they'll do it! Mark my bullshit words, people! It'll happen!
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:25
kawitchate
i second the shenanigans calling.

Nintendo is going to end up with 40% of the market, with Sony and Microsoft both having around 30% each... which is a HUGE hit for Sony, who had over 60% of the market with the PS2.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:35
Namelessted
I am just confused as to why this analyst thinks that the PS3 sales are going to skyrocket this holiday season and into next year. It just doesn't make sense, to be honest.

Does this person not understand the current climate in the world of video games? People want a Wii, and people want a 360. Even when I include my older brother and his friends that would be considered the mainstream market, I can count the number of people that own a PS3 that I know on two hands. And those people that do own a PS3 get made fun of for it. Honestly, who buys a PS3 instead of a 360?

The PS3 is right at where the 360 was a year ago, in hardware sales. But that is only one side of the story. Those people that actually bought a PS3, most of them aren't using it, at least not to play games. The attach rate for the PS3 is fucking hideous right now, where as the 360's is about a 4.5 (that means that they have sold 4.5 games for every console).

Maybe its just me, but I just can't see the PS3 taking off and getting ahead of the 360. I guess we will see who was wrong in a couple years but if I were a betting man, I would have my money on the 360 outselling the PS3.
oobey's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:50
oobey
I think the part I like best about this graph is how the Wii and 360 forecast lines logically extend their existing lines, but the PS3 gets to make this incredibly sharp upwards turn for no apparent reason.

I wish I got paid to make things up.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:55
Bob Muir
Seriously, what are they smoking? There's no way this would happen. The 360 has such a massive lead on the 360 and looks like it will continue to be lacking exclusives. I don't see how it could catch-up.
SniperFodder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 17:59
SniperFodder
They have the Wii with 2007 year end figures in excess of 20M...really? 7M consoles in 2 weeks? PS3 at near 10M and 360 at 18M? Rly? People get paid to do this? How many question marks can I use in one paragraph? Eight? More?!?
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:00
lowercaseluke
Surely the more important stat is that the PS3 catches up to the 360 by the end of 2008. I call shenanigans.
vp360's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:08
vp360
that will never happen. PS3 has no games and come on who the fuck plays heavenly sword. PS3 lacks exclusives. i dont hate the PS3 i just think that it has no good games. i think that the PS3 will have a maximum of 3-4 hits thats all.
ttaylor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:19
ttaylor
It's a marathon, not a sprint. The Wii and the 360 have the early lead but we have no idea what will happen 4 years from now.. I wouldn't doubt this happens at all.. And for those of you saying it has no games.. Yeah, currently, which is why it's behind. Give it a couple of years when it actually has games..
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:34
HarassmentPanda
Yup, this graph is absurd. There's no way the PS3 is going to surpass the Xbox 360 by the end of this year... nice try though.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:43
DinnertimeNinja
Yeah, I wasn't trying to bash the PS3. I LOVE my PS3 and I play it all the time. I have 3 physical games (though only one was bought new so the other two don't go towards helping with their attach rate) and 6 downloaded games.

That aside, it's obviousl that these figures are flat out WRONG. I mean, they don't even have the CURRENT sales figures (which WE ALREADY KNOW) correctly graphed.

--The Wii WILL NOT sell 7 million more consoles by years end,
--the 360 WILL NOT sell 4 million more by years end
--and the PS3 WILL NOT sell 5 million more by years end.

It's also pretty insane to assume that the Wii and 360 will stay on an almost exactly steady sales trend through their entire life cycles.

Furthermore, I can all but guarantee the 360 won't sell nearly as many units next year as they did this year without Halo 3 to boost sales and neither will the Wii once it ceases to become the "it" toy for gamers and non-gamers alike.

PS3 sales WILL pick up in the next year, but not as much as they think. I mean, face it, the Wii and 360 exclusives lineup for 2008 is sparse at best with only SSBB and Ninja Gaiden 2 respectively really standing out in the mass market eye. (Mario Kart isn't getting much praise, Halo Wars is too niche and I'm the only person in the world that wants Culdcept Saga so badly)

The PS3 fares a bit better in 2008 but how much it wins by depends on how many of the following meet their 2008 release dates: Haze, Little Big Planet, Tekken 6, MGS4, and maybe Killzone 2 and the next Gran Turismo.

Someone should have a page dedicated to keeping all of these silly projected sales charts and showing how wrong they are on a year to year basis.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:46
DinnertimeNinja
In the next to last paragraph of my post it should have said "but how much it SELLS depends on..."

The PS3 isn't going to "win" much of anything in the near future. Though I think it will eventually be a moderate success despite Sony's best efforts to the contrary.
snapperdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:56
snapperdragon
To whom it may concern:

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their = belonging to someone
there = over there

spelling lesson 2:

two - as in the number 2
to - towards
too - also

spelling lesson 3:

its - belonging to it
it's - it is


Please, for the love of God and all that is Holy, study this information and use it. Firefox's built in spell checker will not catch these, they must be committed to memory. Put down the crack pipe and look at this, umk?

Whew...
snapperdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 18:58
snapperdragon
PS3 is DOOM!
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 19:26
Joe Burling
The PS3 will outsell the 360, but I'm starting to think that won't happen in the US. Japan and Europe (not to be confused with the UK) will help the PS3 outsell the 360... eventually... not in 2008.

Besides, we have yet to get to that $200 customary price point for either the 360 or the PS3. I predict the 360 will be advertising "Now only $199" by the end of 2008, which will help sell more consoles than Halo 3 ever could. The PS3 still has a long way to go before it can claim a $200 price point.

Seriously, how many of you non-PS3 owners would buy a PS3 at $199 or less? A year ago, the PS2 sold 80% of its install base at $200 or cheaper. That percentage has to be even higher now. Don't forget, all of us reading this make up a small minority of all those people who have and have yet to buy a console this generation.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 19:33
Sharpless
That picture made me titter.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 20:23
SourGr8pes
There's a reason the PS2 did so well, and the PS3 isn't: Support from Japan.

During the PS2 days, virtually everything was made into a game. Anime series: Ps2 game. Franchise fighter: Ps2 game. Furry mascot: Ps2 game. Frankenstein-like mishmash of 5 genres: Ps2 game.
The climate in Japan has changed over to the casual gaming set, and thus a major draw for the PS3 gets stifled. No one's going to be making games for the PS3, when the Wii and DS print money. And whatever hardcore gaming base there is left, has found a niche within the 360.

Believe me, I want the PS3 to succeed. I look at my library of awesome Ps2 games, and hope to see something like that in the future.
Also, there's NO way the Wii will sell 7 mil by the end of the year, looking at the rate in which they trickle from the warehouses.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 20:34
Samit Sarkar
@snapperdragon: A valiant effort, my friend; I usually don’t even bother with “minor” errors such as those. But Dale confusing a bar graph with a line graph is pretty egregious...

I took one look at this story and scoffed. I love my PS3, and my personal attach rate for it is 7 (I just got rid of Madden NFL 08 through Goozex, but I bought it from Best Buy when it came out)...but there’s no way the PS3 is going to start selling as well as that graph predicts, unless Microsoft raises the price on their 360s or Sony drops the PS3 to $299. I’d give the PS3 40 million by the end of 2011...maybe.
Novakaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 20:51
Novakaine
I can think of one thing and one thing alone that could boost the PS3 to huge numbers (and perhaps number one spot)... the mythic FF VII remake. In one horrible swoop, millions would flock to PS3, third parties would immediately jump ship (especially many Japanese companies, who still stubbornly hold loyalty to them), and Sony would be back to charging over $599 for systems, because they could.

I pray it doesn't happen. =P
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 22:22
CaptainApocalypse
@ Novakaine

Way to go, r-tard! We all know Sony trolls the comments sections looking for ways to make more money and you just gave it to them! Also, cocks.
Robbo the hood's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 22:33
Robbo the hood
@ Dinnertimeninja
The Wii and 360 line ups for 2008 look so weak because they haven't even spoken about them yet. Nearly all the games we have any idea about have just been delayed to next year. PS3's line up is exposed to 2009 already so we can expect certain games in the far distance, but there are going to be many more announcements for the rest of 2008. This graph is also clearly ridiculous in that the Wii and 360 lines were extrapolated with a ruler, and PS3 was angled up 15 degrees beginning 2008. What in the world is going to cause the PS3 sales to increase so much in January? It doesn't matter what you think will happen or is even likely to happen, this chart is a joke that clearly just appeals to whatever ignorant Playstation gamers there are out there.
KingMe's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2007 22:54
KingMe
why does it seem impossible for such numbers to be reached? Sure, I know that the PS3 won't sell THAT much, but why are Wii-like numbers such an impposibilty? Everyone bought a Wii like hotcakes....and it had NO GAMES from release until August when MP3 came out. I'd say it's because of the price, being much lower than the competition. We all know everyone wants a PS3....they're just waiting for games and a price point. Well, the price point is already a little appealing, and right about where that graph send PS3 sales through the roof, that's when the heavy hitters come out (MGS4, LBP, KZ2, HAZE, etc). There's no better time to answer the question of "why would PS3 sales suddenly spike in early 2008?" BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE GAMES ARE COMING OUT!!!! I mean, look now....the PS3 outsold the Wii in Japan for November and outsold the 360 worldwide for November....and most of you people are still claiming "the PS3 ain't got no games" even though that's by far not true anymore. Just use your common sense as to why sales will go up. Or do ALL think that the PS3 will never have games on it....or rather you want to keep denying that games are on the system so you can keep that "no games" statement fresh to keep your friends from purchasing what they want.

There's a 120 million person install base waiting to upgrade....they just need a reason. Right where that graph shows sales spiking is right where people will find that reason, and it will only go uphill from there
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2007 01:23
Aaron Mxy Yost
I turned that graph sideways, and it looks like all three consoles are going straight into the toilet. ZOMG ANOTHER GAMING CRASH!!!
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2007 03:55
Fading Star
That doesn't sound good.
LKM's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2007 07:53
LKM
I think the PS3 has the better chance of appealing to "mainstream" or casual gamers than the 360. It's got brand recognition, and a few important franchises; Singstar or Little Big Planet are coming to mind. I seriously doubt the PS3 will ever catch up with the Wii (which I think will sell ever 100 million in the next five years), but it just might beat the 360.
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2007 08:42
brad drac
The only thing that graph shows is how completely idiotic it is to put any faith in industry analysts. The PS3 sales spike is due to a price drop, and will fall off soon enough. Unless they get some good, accessible software on it, they won't even maintain the level they have now.
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