If what Gamespot's review on Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer is true, a copy of the game could never be sold or loaned to another PS3 owner for online play without handing over account details.
From the review:
It's also worth noting the online registration process, which locks your copy of the game to your Konami account for online play. This means that if you ever want to sell your copy of the game, the next person will be unable to play online unless he or she has your registration details. To our knowledge this is the first time this has happened in a PS3 title, and Konami's UK office declined to respond to inquiries over why the system was implemented.
A game that locks to the first person that owns it? That's a bold way to stop the used games problem dead in its tracks, though I'm not sure that any gamer would stand for this. If this is really the case, stores that stock used games (like GameStop) would have to somehow monitor if the game has had its online ability 'used' or not.
Although this is a Konami game, and the game uses a Konami account, it sounds suspiciously similar to other recent rights management issues Sony has had in the music and film industry. Let's hope we hear some clarification on this issue soon.
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11:16 AM on 11.01.2007
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I think developers are starting to realize the money they are losing over the used game trade market.
Also, the grammar in that first sentence is wrong. First, it should be 'review of,' not 'review on.' Also, you need to either take out the word 'what,' or add the word 'says' between 'Soccer' and 'is.'
/grammar_nazi
Here is the link.
@silverback55
The reason for the Warhawk thing is because you can download games to other PS3s - unlimited times to 5 different systems, if I understand the system properly - and they didn't want people to chip in $8 each and download the game to each of their systems. So it's tied to the account that bought it and can only be played from a single system in the span of a day. That only applies to the download version, as the disc version needs the disc to start.
I've heard theres a way to boot the disc version multiple times for lan game purposes, but I've just been jumping into games with friends online; looking into it hasn't really been an issue.
I think we will see more of this in the future.
People in this day and age don't complain enough generally to make an impact. I do think this is directly aimed at used sales.
People did not react to this at all, some even commending Konami because 'they probably needed the server space, that the new games are coming out., and Konami got away with it.
What the misinformed soulds did not take into consideration was that Konami's online servers are merely like IRC servers, people just meet there and the game is hosted on *client side*, one player at each half, probably the load is a hell lot less than an IRC server anyway, people barely use it for chat, unlike a loaded irc server.
Also, this host on client-side lead to the following: there were all sorts of stupid people that cause lag on purpose when it is their turn to host, and Konami is to blame.
Buy this game if you like to play soccer with your friends, *at home*.
Plus, if you're one of the many people who are against piracy because it's "stealing from the developer", shouldn't you be equally against used games?
Comparing buying used games to piracy. Wrong. If you believe in ownership, that this crazy idea that you own things that you pay for (not talking about subscriptions), you should be able to re-sell it to anyone you like.
I think it's perfectly fine for people to trade/sell used games to each other. My general beef is that I despite Gamestop for acting as a totally unnecessary middleman, ripping everyone off, and driving game prices in general up. And they're well within their rights to do it, I just hate it, and you should too. Paying people $5 store credit for a game they turn around and sell for $55 of pure profit is unacceptable.
If Konami or Sony is reading this: If this pattern continues I will not play your games. Period. I don't care how good MGS4 is.
Many won’t get to try the online feature which may convince them to buy the game. Others may feel that the game is broken since it’s not letting them get online. I see this hurting sales more than helping sales.
"Many won’t get to try the online feature which may PREVENT them from buying the game."
Game devs just want them to fail. Konami delays MGS4 then with a potential for a non US ps3 hit they cripple it so people will not want it.
Bravo
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/08/playstation-3-wont-play-used-games/
it seems sony has begun to apply it