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For gamers, the Blu-ray functionality included in the PlayStation 3 might just have been a side bonus. But now it looks like those that chose a PS3 as their Blu-ray playing solution might be better off than those that chose a standalone player.

BBC News says that some Blu-ray player owners may find that they'll eventually miss out on new features as their sets are not upgradeable A new picture-in-picture feature was just rolled out, but  the majority of Blu-ray players sold to date do not have the necessary hardware to support this.

Unfortunately, the first players did not include provisions for future updates. But the PS3 is in a unique position, as it can take advantage of its firmware updates and online access to support these new feature releases.

Later this year, Blu-ray will upgrade to profile 2.0 (most players are profile 1.0 or 1.1), which will support the downloading of related content, like videos and ringtones. The PS3 is a shoe-in for these features.

Early adopters might miss out on these new features, but the most important feature - the video playback- will always work. You'll always be able to watch your beloved Talladega Nights.








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Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 09:43
Quest
hey PS3 + BR + Talladega = happy PS3 owner :)))))

can't wait for the next update on my PS3


can't wait to see the next update on the hd-dvd player of the 360 :)))))
KBeat's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 09:48
KBeat
It was exactly this kind of poor planing on the part of the Blu-ray group that allowed this war to go on so long. Why has it taken this long for Blu-ray to support features that have been standard in HD-DVD since day one? Why are most early adopters of Blu-Ray screwed while every single HD-DVD player has online connectivity and upgrade ability? It's these very issues that have kept the vast majority of consumers on the sidelines.
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 09:55
broonor
That's right; HD-DVD is the way to go. Flame on my friends flame on. Why can't we all just see the truth? Microsoft is trying to create confusion (DVD + - R part 2, anyone?) to pimp out what they think the future of movies is: streaming HD quality movies.

Then again, that's just a rumor. Makes more sense than how MS is just sitting on its collective ass on the HD-DVD issue while the HDDVD world is imploding.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 09:55
JonDarkwood
Why would I download ringtones on a DVD player?
DrXym's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 10:01
DrXym
This is a non-story. Blu Ray profile 1.0 players still play the movie and they still play interactive BD-J content assuming it doesn't need local storage. They might not have picture in picture or network access, but seriously how bad is that?

BD-Live (as profile 2.0 is known) will allow studios to inflict some crappy webstore on you from the disc and sell you all kinds of junk. It might also allow them to snoop on your browsing habits and your IP address. But is anyone seriously expecting much more from it? There might be a few showcase disks that do something interesting, but hardly anything worth caring about.

A more important feature would be mandatory managed copy. Maybe this requires BD-Live (I don't know). Players don't have to support this feature, but discs do. This is probably how Sony intend to allow PSPs to create portable versions of movies. That would be a feature worth waiting for but I suspect every player will implement it in a different way, if they bother at all. And its also possible that some studios will charge $$$ for MMC.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 10:03
Trev
Perils of early adoption, cocks, etc. It sucks, but I don't imagine anyone went into buy a blu-ray player this early and didn't expect something fancier to come out down the road.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 10:19
Cheeburga
So I get to watch Talladega Nights over and over?
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 10:42
MaxVest
Both technologies had growing pains. For example, I'm not aware of a Blu-ray player that can't output 1080p, but the best-selling HD-DVD player on Amazon has a max resolution of 1080i. That can't be solved with a firmware update either.

Early adopters know the risks.
moot button's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 11:09
moot button
whatev, non-news. just end the warfare, and lower costs so i'm not paying $40 for a goddam movie! i ain't goin' back ta dvd ya hear me!!
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 11:18
BluDesign
I haven't paid $40 for any movie I have in my BR collection.

It's called sales, man.

Most I paid for any one BluRay was $28 for Casino Royale.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 11:22
Corak
Yup I would hope that early adopters knew the risks, but on the other hand it does rather suck. An un-informed consumer that bought an early blue ray player would be very pissed I'd imagine. But with technology you have to expect it. Its a shame that the manufacturers didn't forsee this happening and put the necessary components in place. However, if all this does is allow the studios to hock their wares on your player through a movie you bought you can keep that shit. What is the point of picture in picture in a movie? I'm watching a movie to watch the movie, I don't want to see anything else but that. Video directors commentary? Being able to watch tv and the movie with pip? You can keep all that shit, just give me the movie at its best quality and lowest price.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 12:22
HarassmentPanda
KBeat is correct regardless of what anyone says. HD-DVD isn't doing well right now, but aside from raw storage, it's the better format. These new features being "unrolled" on Blu-Ray are just catching up to features already available on HD-DVD. Furthermore, all HD-DVD players are required to have an ethernet port and available storage space so that "outdating" issues like this will never be the case. As far as 1080i HD-DVD players go... that's not an "old" version where early adopters are getting burned, it's a cheaper 3rd gen version that consumers who have 720p TV sets can choose to purchase. It's a "best seller" because it's often for sale under $200 and has come with 8+ free movies.

I'm an HD-DVD supporter, but I'll purchase Blu-Ray if it becomes a necessity. I'm waiting until I have no other choice as I don't have a lot of confidence in the format as of yet... especially a medium backed by Sony.
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 12:57
akathatoneguy
Everything HarassmentPanda said is true.

My stepbrother has 5 movies (out of 15 or 20 that he owns) that he can't play because the most recent update available to his Blu-Ray player stil doesn't allow it to play those titles. There are other quirks too. One of his Die Hard movies (I think the newest one, that came as part of the collection) won't work, unless you boot up another movie (any movie) beforehand. Yeah. Real great technology.

You can talk about 1080i vs. 1080p all you want. What about movies actually working in your Blu-Ray player you bought less than a year ago? HD-DVD was the better format for consumers, it's just too bad that the studios have decided for us instead of us deciding for ourselves. Blu-Ray fans can talk all they want about Blu-Ray outselling HD-DVD by whatever ratio, but the fact is that neither format has really taken off yet and thus, the race was far from over...especially since HD-DVD players are more affordably priced.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 17:23
Fading Star
"Early adopters might miss out on these new features, but the most important feature - the video playback- will always work. You'll always be able to watch your beloved Talladega Nights."

Thank god for that!
digtastik's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2008 19:22
digtastik
Many early HDTV adopters don't have sets that support 1080p, so if the price is right and your set only supports up to 1080i, then why should they give two shits about 1080p? They likely don't. I know it would be a waste of my money considering my native res is 720p.

As an informed consumer, I select the product that gives me the experience I am looking for at the price I'm willing to pay. I don't feel the need to pay a premium for a company logo, so I don't. When the ps3 retains the features(unlike the bullshit 40Gb model) and I feel the cost is reasonable, I'll add it to my collection.

The biggest problem that I see here isn't necessarily consumer confusion; it's $$. All the players involved(studios, hardware manufacturers, retailers) all want to make money; I don't like to give it away.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2008 00:16
Bob Muir
Well, that's all well and good. Shame it still needs games.
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