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9:47 AM on 10.23.2007

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PS3 outsells Xbox 360 in Europe, 2-to-1
Dale North

PS3 outsells Xbox 360 in Europe, 2-to-1 screenshot

The PlayStation 3 sales overcame those of the Xbox 360 week in Europe, according to the hardware sales numbers posted at CVG.

It looks like the PS3 price cut was just enough to get European gamers to take the plunge. With the new 40GB model hitting shelves, and the 60GB model seeing a price drop, 64,000 PS3s were snapped up last week, just missing the Wii numbers by about 6,000 units.

The Xbox 360 had a good run during the Halo 3 launch, even edging out the Wii, but it has now fallen to last place for current generation consoles, ranking below even the PSP and PS2.  

Despite all of that action, the DS still takes top honors, with 171,260 units sold just last week. It prints Euros!

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B-Radicate's Avatar
B-Radicate at 10/23/2007 09:46

These, too, will drop off once people realize the only worthwhile game on the system is Ratchet & Clank thus far. And that only ships today! Haha.
neiltc13's Avatar
neiltc13 at 10/23/2007 09:49

Look at their source - that website from hell called VGChartz.

For the uninformed this is a website which alleges to gain sales information from retailers around the world and then publishes it all online for anyone to see.

Of course, anyone with a brain will realise that no retailer who values their supply chain will give out this super secret information so we're left wondering, where does the information come from?

VGChartz.com has never provided any evidence that it does this or any other practice to gain authentic figures, so for now we must continue to ignore it for it is clearly fabricated nonsense.

I've already buried the submission of CVG's article on digg as inaccurate, because that's quite frankly what it is. Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft should sue the proprietors for slander.
h3lios's Avatar
h3lios at 10/23/2007 09:55

@B-Radicate: Give it sometime, its barely been out for a year.
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar
3r0t1c n3rd at 10/23/2007 10:03

Hey Jim and David, I think your monocles just popped into your glases of champagne.
king3vbo's Avatar
king3vbo at 10/23/2007 10:05

in before fanboi flame
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 10:06

How can you people say that the only game worth it's cost is a game that isn't even out yet?

Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, and WarHawk (all titles I own) I've found to be more than worth what I paid for them. Especially with the online play included in three of them. Are these games perfect? No. There's no such thing, but they're fun and you can only get them on a PS3.

This argument that there are no games for the PS3 that are worth it is petty and tiresome. If anything there aren't that many titles, but I don't have all day to play games so I don't finish playing games the night I buy them like a lot of you. Aside from Resistance, which is out on loan to Tazar, I'm still enjoying every one of these titles.

Yes. It doesn't have the breadth of titles that the 360 has, but it's been out a year longer.

Get a new argument!
Jehutus's Avatar
Jehutus at 10/23/2007 10:08

Less europeans on live. Woot.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 10:09

Hey, I'm a fan of reasonable arguments... <_< >_>

Cereal though. It does have games. And, I think now that it's 400$ in the US (-BC *tear) the BS3 is going to pick up steam. More games are coming. Yes, the 360 has more games. Get over it. If you don't want one, why flamebait with shitty arguments in the first place. GTFO my innernets.

All the systems are good. In their own way.
Cheeburga's Avatar
Cheeburga at 10/23/2007 10:10

Ouch.
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 10:11

aww, looks like the SDF has returned so defend their console once again! heavenly sword was over in 5 hours of repetitive gameplay, motostorm epically failed at anything more than arcade racing when yur buddy comes over, and resistance, although a good game, isn't enough 2 justify the purchase of a $499 console. Also, cocks
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 10:12

never experienced warhawk, so i dunno how that game stacks
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar
3r0t1c n3rd at 10/23/2007 10:15

People are still going to buy the thing, regardless of the quality of the games. You know why? Because people are idiots.

also

CaffeinePowered's Avatar
CaffeinePowered at 10/23/2007 10:19

Hmm....a week after a price drop and a major release in R&C, I would have been surprised if that didn't push sales.

For me at least that 40g means absolutely nothing, no BC = no buy
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 10:20

P.S. why do u think the console is constantly dropping in price? cuz its epically failing, sure the 360 dropped, after like 2 years of epic win, i also agree with the flamewar, as it stands we're probably at defcon 5 with all the fanboys reading mah bashing.
bluki's Avatar
bluki at 10/23/2007 10:21

lol... hating sony still a trend? i find the lack of logic in the internet is awesome....
h3lios's Avatar
h3lios at 10/23/2007 10:21

i don't own one yet, but plan to.

Don't you guys realize its barely been a year since its been out? Give it some time, the "OMFG i must sell my left nut" games will come.

Impatient brats.
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Holyetheline at 10/23/2007 10:24

Seriously Nintendo rules.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 10:27

pwned88, that's your opinion of those titles. Above I stated mine. Neither of us is wrong, but you must agree that not everyone feels the same way about those games as you.

Despite Heavenly Swords shortness it was extremely well received by the media and blogs. It's taken me much longer than 5 hours to beat it (maybe I suck), but I enjoyed every minute of it. That (to me) is worth the cost of the game.

Something makes me think you're one of those people I was referring to above. The type that has loads of time to play, whips through games like crazy, and gets bored fast. If so, stick with your 360 and let the rest of us have fun with our PS3s.

FYI, Warhawk is great fun. We play two times weekly here on Dtoid. Wednesday Night WarCawks and Friday Night Fights. The last few times we've had more than my server can handle (8) and it's been a blast.

Seriously though. I'm just reminding those of you who will listen that it's not as bad as the trolls make it out to be. It's not a 360 or a Wii, it's a PS3. It does have games. It has some good games, some average games and some awful games just like every console has ever had.

Maybe I'm odd man out in believing that the BS3 is worth the money?

Obviously not in Europe...
weedgan's Avatar
weedgan at 10/23/2007 10:30

God, who cares how many console a company sells.


Lets just play the games people. I mean come on, what next, a fucking stock ticker on the front page?
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 10:32

@Weedgan, that is an epic idea. Then perhaps we can have stories that monitor Sony, Nintendo, and MS stocks and suggest when to buy and sell.

I agree. Play it if you like it. If you don't, have a good reason, state it and don't be a troll.
BlindsideDork's Avatar
BlindsideDork at 10/23/2007 10:36

ZOMG!!!!11!!!

I don't care.
Rosseh's Avatar
Rosseh at 10/23/2007 10:37

Wait a minute, Sales this week? Who cares? Talk about clutching at straws. Not complaining that you're reporting news, but man.
CaffeinePowered's Avatar
CaffeinePowered at 10/23/2007 10:41

Stock ticker would be epic, I wish I'd bought some of Nintendo before the Wii came out :(
dnl2ba's Avatar
dnl2ba at 10/23/2007 10:42

The console wars are relevant to us because it figures into how well your console of choice will be supported with games, peripherals, and so on.
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glitched at 10/23/2007 10:53

I will be buying a 40gig for warhawk :)
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 10/23/2007 11:09

@bhive01: That’s the rational argument I’ve been making forever. The PS3 has a good amount of exclusives that, while they may not be “system sellers”, are definitely solid games. The “no games” argument is old.
BS3 Owner's Avatar
BS3 Owner at 10/23/2007 11:14

^ *Snickers*

@everyone here

JSTFUAJPG... lol!
BS3 Owner's Avatar
BS3 Owner at 10/23/2007 11:15

Sorry BronxBomber21

That comment was not @ you!
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 11:31

@Sunami88, That's just Dtoid players that get together on those two select nights for a few hours to play together. Of my buddy list (50), there are probably 40 players of WarHawk total. Not everyone can get together every time you know. Those matches really aren't any worse than FNF for the 360.

Way to take my statement and attack me with it. What we're you hoping to prove? That because there are only 8 people that get together and play warhawk together that somehow that translates to the rest of the world? Naive at best.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 11:35

Show me anywhere on Destructoid where I have called anyone a Sony Hater?

I like all the consoles. I just hate the bullshit arguments you fucking pricks throw out there. Grow the fuck up.

If you don't like the PS3. State it in a clear and concise manner without flamebaiting and everything will be great.

You don't like the games?

Fine. I'm ok with that. We can't all like them. Tell us why, and if someone that is like you reads it, you've done them a favor.

In contrast, if there's someone out there like me that reads my statements and likes what they see, I've done them a favor and helped them realize that the PS3 is probably worth getting for them.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 11:42

Cereal, I'm just sick of it.

It's the same BS that seems to pop up every time someone posts one of these "news" pieces.

Also,

"@pwned88
Well, there you have it. bhive01 put you down man! More than 8 people in Warhawk, clearly the BS3 is BOOMING in popularity! I mean, MORE than 8 people? Who'd'a thunk it."

Tell me that there's no sarcasm directed at me in this statement and I'll say I'm sorry.

How many people on your XBL list have Halo 3? Is it 100%? Do you play matches every week with 32 people in the room that are all your friends? If so, tell me and I'll gladly go out and buy a RRoD capable machine.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 11:44

C wut I did there?
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 11:44

BTW... You're a towel.

Go back to class...
brainderailment's Avatar
brainderailment at 10/23/2007 11:51

@sunami88:
Lot's of people predicted you would come.

Don't be an asshat because people are having fun playing anything but Halo.

btw, I've played hundreds of online matches with 40 people in one single match on a console, have you?
Snaileb 's Avatar
Snaileb at 10/23/2007 11:51

Sunami88 please go away, you're rants have pissed off people that I converse with, and if I have to hear about it I'm blaming you.

STFUAJPG's when it comes down to PC or Consoles.. or whatever.

Bible Tales on the NES! Know about it.
brainderailment's Avatar
brainderailment at 10/23/2007 12:00

STFUAJPG, that is all.
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 12:01

Hahah, I go for lunch and everything goes to shit,
@ bhive01
My opinion is backed by many game review sites which i'm sure are ran by more than just one person, more than just dtoid keep re-iterating that the console is failing and valve states that it was a mistake all togther. And yeah, about the 32 ppl, i've had 16 in one house, organised the night b4. And about me playing games all the time? Thats actually pretty laughable, i'm rarely home and when i am i want a game with re-play value after i've burned through the story mode in <5 hours. lemme name a few, halo 3 <played on my free, resurrected 360 btw> battlefield, CS, half life, and my personal fav would b burnout 3 on my PS-deux<ZOMG SONY PRODUCT!!!!11oneone> over the years of owning that game, i've probably invested 120+ hours. So yeah, not sony hater, just not a fan of failing consoles <really REALLY and the new R&C tho>
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 12:02

P.S. STFUAJP G
^
good
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:03

Impressive. But, that's over LAN not over Live! and you live in a very gaming-concentrated building. I've not been in a dorm in 8 years. I live in a house, and don't have the "luxury" of having hundreds of people live within the area of a single football/soccer field that are all my age and have similar interests. You could do the same exact thing with a PS3 and WarHawk.

"Haha, this is so made of win, the guys gotta be crying by now.

...
...
...


...Im totally cereal. "

What's this all about? You say this like somehow you've proven that the PS3 is somehow magically worthless for every human on the planet.

BTW, I was correcting your English, not actually calling you a towel, like you called me. That's called Ad Hominem and it's not an argument, it's an attack at me meant to dissuade me from further argument. Not this time buddy. Since when are you the crusader against Sony anyway? What did they do to piss you off so much?

My complaint was only that people say that there are no games worth playing on the PS3. My argument is that there are games for the system that I feel are worth playing, and that have received good reviews from reputable places (including Dtoid). Sure, not everyone is going to like these games, but there has got to be at least one game on the PS3 that is worth it to everyone who has, and likes, their 360. I believe this to be the case because the games that are out have similar themes/gameplay styles to those on the 360.
BS3 Owner's Avatar
BS3 Owner at 10/23/2007 12:04

@ Neiro

Sunami88 requests deletion of his account!
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 12:05

HAIL! GRAMMAR NAZI! And yeah, dorm, many ppl, all playing 360 INSTEAD of PS3, loss of credibility much?
BS3 Owner's Avatar
BS3 Owner at 10/23/2007 12:10

^ Did you like the cock in your ass? Appearently YEs!
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:13

"My opinion is backed by many game review sites which i'm sure are ran by more than just one person, more than just dtoid keep re-iterating that the console is failing and valve states that it was a mistake all togther. And yeah, about the 32 ppl, i've had 16 in one house, organised the night b4."

This is a good statement, though it's not really what we were talking about in the beginning.

Do you truly believe that it's going to fail?

I personally see this as a three horse race with no clear losers. The winners will be us gamers of course. Competition breeds good games.

As far as throwing LAN parties... I'm too old for that shit. In fact none of my IRL friends even have a gaming system whatsoever. Consider yourself lucky I guess (you and tsunami88). Honestly, I was just throwing the WNW and FNF out there to let people know about it. It's still in the building stages anyway.

You guys are brutal.
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BS3 Owner at 10/23/2007 12:16

@ Niero

Important Requested Post!

thisguyisreallysunami88iwonderhowlongdtoidwillletmyusernamebeandifitwillbreakthe
(# 43) on 10/23/2007 11:59
And if my rants piss people off, just ban/delete my account again. Or remove the comment system, all I ever see here is rants and bullshit theories, its not like in the old days where people actually had shit to say. So, whatever.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:16

From Wikipedia:
Sarcasm[A] is the sneering, jesting, or mocking of a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's fantastic" to mean "that's awful".

From Tsunami88:
"Well, there you have it. bhive01 put you down man! More than 8 people in Warhawk, clearly the BS3 is BOOMING in popularity! I mean, MORE than 8 people? Who'd'a thunk it."

Maybe you could explain how your statement isn't the epitome of Sarcasm?
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:20

What? That would mean we couldn't have wonderful, productive conversations like this one?
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:38

@pwned88, I apologize for my assumption about your gaming habits. I see your point about re-play value and Heavenly Sword. I've gone back a few times to redo some of the levels I really liked, but not really had the desire to play through again. However, HS had an extremely high production value. It was like playing a movie. The actors portrayed as characters in the game had such excellent voice acting, and facial expression. The story was truly epic. For me and many others it was worth the money. For some (perhaps you?) it wasn't/wouldn't be. It's essentially the cost of a couple Blu-ray/HD-DVD movies... 5 hours of entertainment... probably works out...
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Snaileb at 10/23/2007 12:44

omg shut up Sunami. Don't be that guy..
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:48

Well, seriously. The "no games" argument against getting a PS3 is old hat at this point. The library doesn't compare to a 360's and I never said it did, but there are some quality titles to be had.

That's all I was saying. Then we got off on, whether it was failing, or how much of a towel I am (which is besides the point).

I decided that I would take a stand against the tyranny.
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 12:53

That was fun I guess.
pwned88's Avatar
pwned88 at 10/23/2007 12:55

I can see yur argument on the production quality, no arguing there, it is def one of the prettiest games i've seen in a while, all i know is i'm not a fan of movie style games, the last one i played was xenosaga, and out of about 40 hrs of game, 26 were cutscenes. Not my style, that is all.
Until next time, this is pwned88 signing off! Tune in next time kids.
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donkeykong at 10/23/2007 13:00

I thought everyone already had a DS, who is still buying them?
Kalakaua's Avatar
Kalakaua at 10/23/2007 13:11

There's organized games of Warhawk on Wednesday and Friday?

That's cool. What times?
bhive01's Avatar
bhive01 at 10/23/2007 13:51

We start around 7ish. Goes until whenever usually.
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Volomon at 10/23/2007 14:02

I just wanted to say Xbox + Halo 3 can't beat a PS3 price drop and a kiddie game of R&C, quick fall if you ask me to relatively simple things.
Gato's Avatar
Gato at 10/23/2007 14:45

I'd trade my 360 for a PS3 in a heartbeat, but too bad its not that liked in my area.
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Samit Sarkar at 10/23/2007 15:21

@Volomon: Ratchet & Clank is a kiddie game?!?!?! You either (A) have never actually played through any of the games in the series, or (B) are just trying to start a flame war. Either way, you’re being moronic. Just because R&C is very colorful and has a furry animal for a character doesn’t preclude adults from playing it, and the humor in those games certainly isn’t for kids.

@bhive01: I agree with all your posts here 100%.
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brainderailment at 10/23/2007 15:56

I wish I could get in on the FNFs, but I just always go out on fridays, and as for WNW, I always work on wednesdays. Last time I brought the PS3 to work, I messed up my shift a little. (I work at a radio station, so I don't have to do anything until the top of the hour, so I have plenty of time to play on a tv and everything, but you can't pause an online match.)
Logstain's Avatar
Logstain at 10/23/2007 17:25

Up Your Arsenal, Going Commando, Tools of Destruction, Size Matters = titles obviously meant for kids.
Necros's Avatar
Necros at 10/23/2007 17:27

@ sunami88
Your name is way too fucking long.
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artson1966 at 10/23/2007 17:38

OMG Why is it every time I read a forum involving the 360 and the PS3 all I read is posts on how bad the PS3 is doing. I wonder if the skeptics are aware of the 10 month trends of both consoles. according to a reliable source NPD the PS3 is at the same sales figures as the 360 where at 10 months and also the software issue where both identical. Both systems failed to have enough software in the first year on the market. The true sales figure will be made in the second year of the PS3 just as they where made in the first. Yet as popular as teh PS2 was it was selling even fewer console it's first year then the PS3 is this time around.

I personally don't care what console you prefer. In my mind they all do some things great and other things terible, but i don't go online and spend hours bad mouthing microsoft and Nintendo because i don't prefer thier consoles. Too each his or her own opn which console they purchase or purchased. whith all of them sofware will come along after time and as we saw with the xbox and the PS2 they pushed the capibilities of each to the max and made some of the best games on the market after a couple of years.

So I myself will wait a couple of years before i say anything about anyones choices on what console they purchased..

Funny thing is as it stands today the wii is winning the minds of most families anyway. This could be because there are far more younger children that play games then there are us older generation and seeing as most of the Xbox thrillers are FPS and seem to make online play more important then storyline and individaul player games where sony spends its money on the wii kills both with family games for the entire family.

So really is it worth fighting about day after day. Personally i would rather play games more then write on this blog about this issue.
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LarkOhiya at 10/23/2007 18:32

um...so about those games.
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Magesx at 10/23/2007 18:46

so guys i herd there is no games on the ps3 :O
Aurain's Avatar
Aurain at 10/24/2007 02:23

No one really cares about the PS3 not having too many games, especially when 95% of PS2 games are better than Xbox 360. Just not good enough graphics for the Halo graphicwhore fanboys.
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sonyjoker at 10/24/2007 06:50

pwned88 you are a retard saying the 360 is like epically winning for 2 years .who ever is counting on he first year for 360 is absolutely full of shit like a microsoft fan boy .because last year the war just started when the ps3 and WII WAS released but microsoft has not proved anything yet either in my eyes i still see the same old company trying to keep up by head stat but ps3 is still gonna win the war because no one has not even seen a gta game in this gen yet so lets wait and see and see what the next big rock star franchise will be about on ps3 or 360 and lets see if 360 sells more copies or ps3 does until rock star get the game to look alike i think then you have to get a ps3 for sure at the end of the day.360 is hardware crap so sit on it you cant put anything good on 360 besides a 10 year old soft ware called live and for those retard who play on live they are just stamidiots
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bhive01 at 10/24/2007 07:39

@SonyJoker, I hate to say it, but I can almost guarantee that the first GTA game for this generation of systems will sell better on the 360 because of it's install base. Cross platform games are not a good way to judge a system's popularity this generation IMO.

Sony, just needs to stay on their studios and make sure they put out quality games. If they release good games like the ones I mentioned above and help 3rd party developers like MS is doing then that will go a long way towards getting the PS3 out of 3rd place and into 2nd. I'm afraid that the Wii is a beast that will put both MS and Sony to shame this generation. That and the Wii2 will be out much sooner than the 720 and PS4 will be.
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Fading_Star at 10/28/2007 17:51

That's nice. We'll how well Sony does in the future.
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DGX Goggles at 10/28/2007 19:43

So Euros I herd you liek mudkipz?


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