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PS3 and dedicated blu-ray player aren't silly at all.
Maybe have a PS3 on the TV in the basement, and a blu-ray player in your room.
Maybe one of your kids has a PS3, but keeps it in his/her room and you want a blu-ray player for the basement or your own room.
Maybe have a PS3 on the TV in the basement, and a blu-ray player in your room.
Maybe one of your kids has a PS3, but keeps it in his/her room and you want a blu-ray player for the basement or your own room.
It's obvious BR will never catch on like DVD, though. And in the near future we're going to have digital distribution, Netflix will be even more rampant (already has insta 1080p quality) have holographic disks.
It's obvious BR will never catch on like DVD, though. And in the near future we're going to have digital distribution, Netflix will be even more rampant (already has insta 1080p quality)and have holographic disks.
I saw a Blu-ray player at Walmart today for $98 so it seems reasonable that if you just wanted to watch Blu-ray movies... it's a far better deal than a $300 PS3. As for people who own both PS3 and a Blu-ray player it makes more sense when you think about multiple TVs, I'd buy a standalone $98 Blu-ray player for my bedroom instead of a second PS3.
Wow matt, you seriously think there was a time when people only bought a ps3 'cause it had bluray?
I can't really believe the ps3 is such a large percentage but I guess it's sold quite well so maybe it fits.
I can't really believe the ps3 is such a large percentage but I guess it's sold quite well so maybe it fits.
I have a ps3 and absolutely love it, but you know what? I dont use it as a blu-ray player, I have a kick ass LG for that. The picture and sound quality are just better on my stand alone, plus it has alot of features on it that I use.
PS3 is a silly BR player at this point. The biggest shortcoming is that PS3 doesn't have a simple and cheap IR which means people get tired of using the controller as a remote.
I also notice that if you turn off, you have to watch the darn movie again. And it's slow. I don't know if the standard player is any better.
Netflix may not be fully HQ or good, but it's darn convenient. I noticed that I am renting 1 BR movie ever 4~6 months. If I wait a bit, it comes on Netflix and I can watch pretty much every where with minimal wait.
I also notice that if you turn off, you have to watch the darn movie again. And it's slow. I don't know if the standard player is any better.
Netflix may not be fully HQ or good, but it's darn convenient. I noticed that I am renting 1 BR movie ever 4~6 months. If I wait a bit, it comes on Netflix and I can watch pretty much every where with minimal wait.
i don't ever remember it being a dominant blu-ray player... did i miss something while i was playing uncharted?
Well, consider the occasion that you have a PS3 in your room to play games and watch movies, and the parents are forced to buy a separate one because they don't want to mess with yours. Same reason there are multiple DVD players in homes, no?
As Blu-Ray player MSRP's begin to come down, it's not unrealistic to see why people wouldn't consider buying one separately or as a second for the bedroom, and thus the PS3 numbers will continue to drop. The only advantage it had was the $300 price point a year ago when stand-alone Blu-Rays were still running around $250 a player, making the PS3 a better, more cost-efficient choice.
That nowadays is no longer the case.
That nowadays is no longer the case.
I love my ps3 bluray remote for the simple fact that I don't need to point it at anything to use it. Also, saying the ps3 is a crappy bluray player is just not true.
For a good while, the PS3 was not only the best Blu-Ray player available, it was also the best value. Many websites and magazines listed it as the top recommendation for people interested in buying a Blu-Ray player. However, over time stand-alone units have exceeded the PS3's quality as the price of the technology has decreased. It's still rated very good, but is no longer the best. It makes sense that people are no longer buying it primarily for the Blu-Ray functionality.
What's so silly about it? Some households might have a PS3 and another player, but maybe it stays in the kids room away from the living room. Or maybe someone in the household is not confident about handling a PS3 and needs something more traditional or straight forward.
Not everyone who owns a game console is a college kid or lives by themselves.
Not everyone who owns a game console is a college kid or lives by themselves.
@Worm: Seeing as how the ps3 (or at least mine) refuses to play blu-ray movies in 720p, but will play games on 720p just fine that makes mine a shitty blu-ray player :P.
@Matt: What program do you use? I could probably find one myself when I actually do get a blu-ray drive, but I wonder if there are any I should avoid.
@Matt: What program do you use? I could probably find one myself when I actually do get a blu-ray drive, but I wonder if there are any I should avoid.
Uhh, not silly. Dedicated blu-ray players tend to play BDs with better image quality and audio quality. For an example Oppo BDP-83 just kicks every other blu-ray player's butt, including PS3.
I spent $50 on a Blu-Ray drive for my home theater PC.
7.1 Audio, silky-smooth 1080P playback.
Blu-Ray playback solved. No PS3, no extra $100 appliance to take up space.
7.1 Audio, silky-smooth 1080P playback.
Blu-Ray playback solved. No PS3, no extra $100 appliance to take up space.
Infamy, you do realize DvD as a format is almost 16 years old. It took roughly 9 of those years for it to start to replace VHS fully (10-12 years in some countries). DvD as a format had just hit full stride when BD was introduced as a technology.
BD is 4 years old, and already in 17% of households, in the last 6 months alone the number of stand alone players has doubled.
Just because you like the xbox 360 so damn much doesn't mean you have to act like a blind fanboy towards the obvious. BD is here to stay, and will probably overtake DvD faster then DvD overtook VHS.
BD is 4 years old, and already in 17% of households, in the last 6 months alone the number of stand alone players has doubled.
Just because you like the xbox 360 so damn much doesn't mean you have to act like a blind fanboy towards the obvious. BD is here to stay, and will probably overtake DvD faster then DvD overtook VHS.
It's silly to own two Blu-Ray players? Why is that? What if I'm downstairs playing a PS3 game, but my mother or sister wants to watch a movie? Now we can do both.
Had my PS3 only a few months... and it's scratching my blu-ray discs now.. I get a line right across it when I eject them... shoulda just bought a stand alone.
If I watched more movies, I'd probably care more about blu-ray. For me, Netflix scratches my video watching itch just fine.
My parents have a Blu-ray player that they use for both BD and DVD. I use my PS3 for BD on my room and DVD. Problem is, I import DVD's a lot. So I have one computer set to USA region, and another one set to European. It sucks ass.
@matt: Alright, I figured WMP would not play blu-rays, or at least not for some time.
@Nyktharas: You obviously don't understand how technology progresses do you? Why do you think it took so long for DVDs to take over VHS where as it didn't take Blu-rays as long? Because things like the internet where beginning to reach more homes, so information began to travel much faster.
@Nyktharas: You obviously don't understand how technology progresses do you? Why do you think it took so long for DVDs to take over VHS where as it didn't take Blu-rays as long? Because things like the internet where beginning to reach more homes, so information began to travel much faster.
Then of course there is the possibility that PS3 owners were unaware that it could play Blu-Ray discs at all. Yes, it sounds incredibly ignorant, but I wouldn't rule that out for the many morons out there.
It's interesting how people say a thing like "the PS3 has always been a bad Blu-Ray player" simply because they want it to be so. Is it 'loyalty' to another hardware manufacturer? Dislike of the hardware manufacturer in question? A simple desire to appear knowledgeable about a subject, even when they are not? I mean, you can throw an imaginary internet rock and hit quotes like, "With its new $300 price tag, the PS3 Slim has been selling like crazy, and the fact that it's an excellent Blu-ray player is at least part of the reason. Since Blu-ray's inception, the PS3 has been our reference Blu-ray player, only recently getting edged out of the top spot by the Oppo BDP-83" from CNET in 2009. It's a curious thing.
1 As a stand-alone blu-ray player it still is amazing because JUST AN UPDATE empowered it to play 3D Blu-ray, for which it could not do before.
2 It's a hell of a long time to be the best at playing a movie standard format. 4-5 years? what?
3 There was a thing called HD-DVD that at some point could have made it an impossible sale. Congratulations PS3.
You have won
2 It's a hell of a long time to be the best at playing a movie standard format. 4-5 years? what?
3 There was a thing called HD-DVD that at some point could have made it an impossible sale. Congratulations PS3.
You have won
Indeed. When my mom went out and bought a blu ray player, without consulting me or my little brother on the best type, we were rather disappointed with her choice. had she have asked us, she would have suggested the ps3, and explained all of the positive reasons why she should have gotten one. instead, she bought the machine that does strictly blu ray. when people make uninformed decisions, all I can say is 'I am disappoint'
pokota, I sincerely believe the reasons driving them to say things about bad blu ray on ps3 is due to brand loyalty in some other area of the market. Which is surprising to me, ide say, 'hah, wow, you found something more entertaining then ps3? do tell."
Cheaper yes, but definitely not serving the multi platform purposes I require at minimum.
What further angers me is that she also bought a Wii. I am disappoint.
pokota, I sincerely believe the reasons driving them to say things about bad blu ray on ps3 is due to brand loyalty in some other area of the market. Which is surprising to me, ide say, 'hah, wow, you found something more entertaining then ps3? do tell."
Cheaper yes, but definitely not serving the multi platform purposes I require at minimum.
What further angers me is that she also bought a Wii. I am disappoint.
Indeed. When my mom went out and bought a blu ray player, without consulting me or my little brother on the best type, we were rather disappointed with her choice. had she have asked us, she would have suggested the ps3, and explained all of the positive reasons why she should have gotten one. instead, she bought the machine that does strictly blu ray. when people make uninformed decisions, all I can say is 'I am disappoint'
pokota, I sincerely believe the reasons driving them to say things about bad blu ray on ps3 is due to brand loyalty in some other area of the market. Which is surprising to me, ide say, 'hah, wow, you found something more entertaining then ps3? do tell."
Cheaper yes, but definitely not serving the multi platform purposes I require at minimum.
What further angers me is that she also bought a Wii. I am disappoint.
pokota, I sincerely believe the reasons driving them to say things about bad blu ray on ps3 is due to brand loyalty in some other area of the market. Which is surprising to me, ide say, 'hah, wow, you found something more entertaining then ps3? do tell."
Cheaper yes, but definitely not serving the multi platform purposes I require at minimum.
What further angers me is that she also bought a Wii. I am disappoint.
The PS2 played DVDs as well, but people still went out and bought dedicated DVD players.
Why the surprise over PS3 being passed over as a Blu-ray player? I mean, lets be honest, Sony's marketing doesn't exactly draw attention to it being a Blu-ray player ("It only does everything"? You know what else most people own and "It only does everything"? PCs)
Why the surprise over PS3 being passed over as a Blu-ray player? I mean, lets be honest, Sony's marketing doesn't exactly draw attention to it being a Blu-ray player ("It only does everything"? You know what else most people own and "It only does everything"? PCs)
@Neroisonfire
The only reason i purchased the PS3 at the time i did was because it was the cheapest blu-ray player, i have since sold it off and got a blu-ray player since i never played games on it. Made a killing to with it being backwards compatible, was able to sell it for a thousand dollars, but im happy i bought a stand-alone blu-ray player.
The only reason i purchased the PS3 at the time i did was because it was the cheapest blu-ray player, i have since sold it off and got a blu-ray player since i never played games on it. Made a killing to with it being backwards compatible, was able to sell it for a thousand dollars, but im happy i bought a stand-alone blu-ray player.
@Spaz - what is your hook up like? On my smaller TV which is only goes up to 720p/1080i, my PS3 (older 40GB model) plays Blu-Rays just fine in 720p through HDMI.
^Fanboys like you are the reason I'm glad Xbox 360 is stomping PS3 sales into oblivion. Spewing such ignorance even though the OP is well known and widely accepted; somehow it's an "xbot" fanboy thread still, though.
Sony should update bluray in PS3, but force the game developers to rely on old slow bluray during game-tests.
Other bluray players hewe caught up with the ps3, pricewise that is.
But some people dont understand the qualities of a software upgradable bluray player(you can not play some bluray movies unles youre BD player is updated).
But from what it looks right now for the futhure, stereoscopic 3d just came, and the chepest 3d BD players are around 320€ here in europe, and with the ps3s price at 300 plus nearly infinite other multimedia features, it looks like the best and cheepest alternative is a ps3, and since the last pricedrop came about a year ago, we can expect the ps3 to drop its price wery soon.
So from what i see, the ps3 is soon going to widen the gap betwen itself and other BD players.
But some people dont understand the qualities of a software upgradable bluray player(you can not play some bluray movies unles youre BD player is updated).
But from what it looks right now for the futhure, stereoscopic 3d just came, and the chepest 3d BD players are around 320€ here in europe, and with the ps3s price at 300 plus nearly infinite other multimedia features, it looks like the best and cheepest alternative is a ps3, and since the last pricedrop came about a year ago, we can expect the ps3 to drop its price wery soon.
So from what i see, the ps3 is soon going to widen the gap betwen itself and other BD players.
"One of the biggest selling points for the PS3 is that Blu-ray player inside it." - Come on man. What kinda opening is that? I'm pretty sure that its selling point had more to do with it being a third itertation Playstation and riding off the success of the innovative Playstation 1 and the massively popular Playstation 2. The Blu-ray was just a new technology inside a console powerhouse name, surely?
My buddy has a 360 and a blu-ray player (I know right? Why not just get a PS3? Well, because at one point he just had enough cash for an xbox, and later on, just enough cash for a BR player) He does hate it because he's a big fan of Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy, MGS (Real MGS) and Killzone, used to be a Sony boy, but unfortunately when he wanted a new console he could only afford a 360 - bummer...
...and my PS3 is a far better blu-ray player than his stand alone. Far better. Would be even if it's didn't play all those awesome games.
Sometimes he get's blu-ray, which needs his player to be updated, this means plugging into a PC or internet connection and updating it. While you were planning to be watching the film! BALLACHE!
The PS3 (you know all those updates you moan about) - is ALWAYS fully up-to-date. As soon as I put a film in, I can watch it. Picture and sound is fantastic too (have 5.1 system).
Also the Blue-tooth remote is fantastic, turns it's self off when not in use (had it 4+ years - never changed batteries) and doesn't need to be pointed at anything. Infra-red remotes are old news.
It may only be 17% in America who use Blu-ray, but over here in the UK we're a lot quicker at adopting new tech, I'd put money on it being a FUCKLOAD more than 17% - i know tonnes of people with PS3's and blu-ray players, tonnes.
Hell i don't know anyone who uses Netflix or any other digital distribution for films over here, and even the PSN's video store is just way too expensive. Yet i know loads of people who have Lovefilm accounts and Lovefilm send you blu-rays for the same price as DVD's. Which is nice.
So uh yeah.
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I find the PS3 to be a great Blu-ray player with it always being up-to-date.
I bet there's a far higher percentage of Blu-ray users in the UK.
...and my PS3 is a far better blu-ray player than his stand alone. Far better. Would be even if it's didn't play all those awesome games.
Sometimes he get's blu-ray, which needs his player to be updated, this means plugging into a PC or internet connection and updating it. While you were planning to be watching the film! BALLACHE!
The PS3 (you know all those updates you moan about) - is ALWAYS fully up-to-date. As soon as I put a film in, I can watch it. Picture and sound is fantastic too (have 5.1 system).
Also the Blue-tooth remote is fantastic, turns it's self off when not in use (had it 4+ years - never changed batteries) and doesn't need to be pointed at anything. Infra-red remotes are old news.
It may only be 17% in America who use Blu-ray, but over here in the UK we're a lot quicker at adopting new tech, I'd put money on it being a FUCKLOAD more than 17% - i know tonnes of people with PS3's and blu-ray players, tonnes.
Hell i don't know anyone who uses Netflix or any other digital distribution for films over here, and even the PSN's video store is just way too expensive. Yet i know loads of people who have Lovefilm accounts and Lovefilm send you blu-rays for the same price as DVD's. Which is nice.
So uh yeah.
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I find the PS3 to be a great Blu-ray player with it always being up-to-date.
I bet there's a far higher percentage of Blu-ray users in the UK.
HD in general is a young technology, but it's starting to take hold.
People will always prefer a physical product over digital one.
Blu-ray will over take DVD with time, like DVD took the VHS.
The PS3 isn't going to be the dominant Blu-ray player for much longer because the tech is getting cheaper, the PS3 is a games console that can play Blu-ray. People aren't going to buy the PS3 to get a cheap Blu-ray now, they're going to by a cheap Blu-ray to get a Cheap Blu-ray, and a PS3 if they want a games console to serve as a entertainment centre.
@Sexy
I think the number of Blu-ray users over is probably less than 17%, Acccording to statistics only 60% of us actually use the internet, unbelievable as that may be. I have a PS3, as you know, but only 2 Blu-ray's, and I only bought one of them and there's only one more film I really want on Blu-ray at this moment in time. Even still, Those 2 Blu-Rays I have is more than the number of DVD's or Digital films I've bought this year.
People will always prefer a physical product over digital one.
Blu-ray will over take DVD with time, like DVD took the VHS.
The PS3 isn't going to be the dominant Blu-ray player for much longer because the tech is getting cheaper, the PS3 is a games console that can play Blu-ray. People aren't going to buy the PS3 to get a cheap Blu-ray now, they're going to by a cheap Blu-ray to get a Cheap Blu-ray, and a PS3 if they want a games console to serve as a entertainment centre.
@Sexy
I think the number of Blu-ray users over is probably less than 17%, Acccording to statistics only 60% of us actually use the internet, unbelievable as that may be. I have a PS3, as you know, but only 2 Blu-ray's, and I only bought one of them and there's only one more film I really want on Blu-ray at this moment in time. Even still, Those 2 Blu-Rays I have is more than the number of DVD's or Digital films I've bought this year.
@Aurainy
Yeah, we techno-minded people often find it hard to believe there are so many people who don't care and don't adopt new tech! 60% using the internet is frankly SHOCKING. i mean how do you LIVE without the internet?!?!? (You mean in the UK right)
Although, of the people i know i'd say perhaps 40-50% of them own a blu-ray player. I know "people I know" is a very specific cross section and not an overall veiw, but still, from my perspective, DVD isn't far off dead!
I too don't really BUY blu-rays because they're too expensive, but i rent a whole lot of them, and even the 3 I own is 3 more than DVD's I've bought in the last couple of years.
I think the main hurdle for blu-ray is, strangely enough, the backwards compatibility. The fact that the PS3 and Blu-ray players can ALSO play DVD's, means that when faced with the decision of buying a film on £20 blu-ray or £5 DVD, the DVD is still seeing hefty sales.
A problem DVD didn't have when going up against VHS.
But as you say, HD is still very young, but with the disapearance of SD TV's on store shelves, i don't see it being too long until HD is the standard, and when that happens, Blu-ray will no-doubt follow.
Yeah, we techno-minded people often find it hard to believe there are so many people who don't care and don't adopt new tech! 60% using the internet is frankly SHOCKING. i mean how do you LIVE without the internet?!?!? (You mean in the UK right)
Although, of the people i know i'd say perhaps 40-50% of them own a blu-ray player. I know "people I know" is a very specific cross section and not an overall veiw, but still, from my perspective, DVD isn't far off dead!
I too don't really BUY blu-rays because they're too expensive, but i rent a whole lot of them, and even the 3 I own is 3 more than DVD's I've bought in the last couple of years.
I think the main hurdle for blu-ray is, strangely enough, the backwards compatibility. The fact that the PS3 and Blu-ray players can ALSO play DVD's, means that when faced with the decision of buying a film on £20 blu-ray or £5 DVD, the DVD is still seeing hefty sales.
A problem DVD didn't have when going up against VHS.
But as you say, HD is still very young, but with the disapearance of SD TV's on store shelves, i don't see it being too long until HD is the standard, and when that happens, Blu-ray will no-doubt follow.
im not really surprised.
it used to be that the PS3 was the cheapest cost blu ray player now its just not the case. Though technically its better then most of the blu ray players you will find on the market since it now supports the whole new 3D TV thing even though I think thats silly.
it used to be that the PS3 was the cheapest cost blu ray player now its just not the case. Though technically its better then most of the blu ray players you will find on the market since it now supports the whole new 3D TV thing even though I think thats silly.
@Infamy
I would really enjoy seeing your real life for a day. You must be a really sad and pathetic individual to bring something like your console preference into a BD discussion. I sincerely hope one day you seek out the help you need.
In the meantime the real world will continue to go on while you spew your fanboy / console war garbage.
I would really enjoy seeing your real life for a day. You must be a really sad and pathetic individual to bring something like your console preference into a BD discussion. I sincerely hope one day you seek out the help you need.
In the meantime the real world will continue to go on while you spew your fanboy / console war garbage.
I can't say I ever remember a time that the PS3 was the cheapest Bluray player. It was just the best value even if all you wanted was a Blureay player. Still is a great value.
There still aren't many units that have WiFi. A must for anyone who hates having a messy looking home entertainment centre.
There must be a few by now, but I don't know of any stand alone units that can access movie download services like Netflix, and the PSN. If they do they'd be hard pressed to match the picture quality of a movie downloaded from PSN. Netflix doesn't even come close.
I don't know that there are any other companies that even that offer free updates that add new functions like 3D playback. Last time I asked about it I was told that some companies do offer updates, but you have to pay for them.
The only complainers here are the mad litterbox fans like Soffik who hates everything PS3, and other madmen who complain about the PS3s lack of playback options. I don't doubt that with some tinkering you can get a decent picture from your PC to your TV, and it might even look alright on a TV as large as a 32 inch. Who the hell wants their living room to look like NASA launch control though?
There still aren't many units that have WiFi. A must for anyone who hates having a messy looking home entertainment centre.
There must be a few by now, but I don't know of any stand alone units that can access movie download services like Netflix, and the PSN. If they do they'd be hard pressed to match the picture quality of a movie downloaded from PSN. Netflix doesn't even come close.
I don't know that there are any other companies that even that offer free updates that add new functions like 3D playback. Last time I asked about it I was told that some companies do offer updates, but you have to pay for them.
The only complainers here are the mad litterbox fans like Soffik who hates everything PS3, and other madmen who complain about the PS3s lack of playback options. I don't doubt that with some tinkering you can get a decent picture from your PC to your TV, and it might even look alright on a TV as large as a 32 inch. Who the hell wants their living room to look like NASA launch control though?
The fact that more people use the PS3 for Blu - Ray movies than all the other standalone players COMBINED tells me that the PS3 is losing no ground whatsoever as the dominant HD movie player.
If one particular model of a standalone Blu - Ray player catches up with the PS3 then it will have started to lose ground. As of right now, PS3 is the dominant platform for both gaming AND Blu - Ray movies.
Also, whoever said Blu - Ray won't fully take off is an idiot, Blu - Ray adoption is taking place 1.5x faster than DVD adoption took over from VHS and Digital Distribution has a hell of a long way to go before it has a chance of gaining a reasonable foothold in consumer movie adoption. Many areas of the world don't even have high enough broadband speeds for DD to take off, some areas don't have broadband at all!
If one particular model of a standalone Blu - Ray player catches up with the PS3 then it will have started to lose ground. As of right now, PS3 is the dominant platform for both gaming AND Blu - Ray movies.
Also, whoever said Blu - Ray won't fully take off is an idiot, Blu - Ray adoption is taking place 1.5x faster than DVD adoption took over from VHS and Digital Distribution has a hell of a long way to go before it has a chance of gaining a reasonable foothold in consumer movie adoption. Many areas of the world don't even have high enough broadband speeds for DD to take off, some areas don't have broadband at all!
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