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11:31 AM on 04.03.2007   |   World Famous

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I admit, it's not looking good for the PlayStation 3 right now. It's one thing to have sort-of-steady sales in the States, but the PlayStation bread was always nicely buttered in the UK and without that support, even I'm beginning to wonder if the console can truly "make it." According to the latest sales numbers from the Queen's land, the PS3 sales have dipped 82% during the PS3's second week of release. A stark contrast from the record it previously set. From GamesIndustry:

Sales of the PlayStation 3 have dropped dramatically on the second week of release in the UK, with official Chart Track figures revealing a fall of 82 per cent.Chart Track data is gathered from 7000 UK retail outlets representing 90 per cent of the software market, including GAME, Gamestation, Play.com, Asda and HMV.

A spokesperson for Chart Track confirmed the figure to GamesIndustry.biz this afternoon, stating: "Yes, sales of PS3 hardware have dropped by 82 per cent." Last week, Chart Track revealed that the PlayStation 3 had sold 165,000 units in the first two days following the launch, making it the fastest-selling home console in the UK.

God, I hate to ask this, but is it really the beginning of the end for the PS3 or is this just a minor hiccup? Please say hiccup. Perhaps everyone is just waiting for the good stuff to hit, right? Right, guys?








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velcroman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:28
velcroman
Nintendo Wii FTW!!!!1 YAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!
ghnvt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:30
ghnvt
I can't see spending 600 bucks for about 5-10 good games and MGS4 that might be an exclusive. Not that many people care about Bluray either. Save yourself the 200 bucks and buy a 360 and the prices of the games are starting to drop on the early games too, plus it has the best online gaming system.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:32
DeusPayne
Exactly what I said happened. Everyone who wanted one got it on opening day. So, it set those records. But now everyone who wants one has one, and the rest will just end up sitting on the shelves.
Dom's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:34
Dom
This is such a let down, but the truth of it is that many people are waiting for 2 things to happen before they shell out for a PS3

1) A price drop obviously and...

2) Some worthy titles.

Sounds obvious but Sony have still failed to deliever on both fronts. Dont get me wrong I'm no Nintendo or Xbox fanboy, I'm a Sega guy lol, but I've always loved Playstation though Sony are making it harder and harder to fall in love with the PS3.
eZ dAnTe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:35
eZ dAnTe
Well the PS3 has nothing more to bid than the Xbox360.
I mean the graphiqs are equal, but the price ain't, The number of games neither, the service.. let's not start with that subject :p
Blueray is absolutely useless for now, so the major advantage of that gamestation is null...

I'll never spend 600bucks for that, Sony has just disapointed me a bit too much,but hey, if you still think the PS3 can make it go ahead, buy it, I won't fake it, if somebody was going to GIVE me one I'll surely play it, but I don't see that coming :p
dorock's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:38
dorock
Blu-Ray will save it.
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:39
galagabug
i hope sony takes all this as a wake-up call, the console is super promising, but the arrogance has to go.. chances are i'll end up owning one, but like everyone else said, there is absolutely nothing to justify the price right now, especially when my other consoles have been delivering the same big title games, as well as some damn fine exclusives.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:41
Aaron Mxy Yost
I just don't see Blu-Ray as dominating the market the way DVD has... it'll be a long while before average consumers are ready to switch formats again.
relik's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:43
relik
I've mentioned in the forums that if they get an exclusive PS3 Pro Evo that ain't gimped like the 360 one, then the UK will buy many, many consoles. Same with Europe... it is a religion over here, don't cha know!?

Personally I'm waiting for MGS4 and couldn't give a fuck about FFXIII. One game lol
Sci-fi Sushi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:44
Sci-fi Sushi
Take out Blu-Ray and you have a very worthy competitor.

That DVD format coming out in China will probably dominate seeing as it will have no competition with the billions of people over there.
Baratation's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:48
Baratation
when they show me some god of war 3 screenshots

and some new and improved gameplay videos of lair...i might think on getting me one...

Ndizi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:49
Ndizi
I couldn't care less if they would abandon europe. I'm tired of this bullshit, when I get my PS3 in 2010 it's going to be an american one.

That it sold that much after all the PR disaster Sony has suffered speaks for how strong of a brand the Playstation is.

I have a hard time seeing this as the end. If Sony gets their shit together. It will by 2010 be the biggest console on the market no doubt.
JamesSorensen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:57
JamesSorensen
it will be fine, ps3 us/jap sales were stronger than 36 sales in same period and 360 was worldwide at that point.... sure they are not selling every last unit made, but sales are steady adn no doubt this christmas will be good for all consoles. would be nice to maybe see slight price drop for christmas, which is what most are waiting for.
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:58
CaffeinePowered
Viva la Resistance

Europe gets the shaft on price, so Im really not all that suprised, when you charge over $800 USD and $100 USD for games. While taxes are higher in Europe, it just doesn't justify that high of a price differential.
yaesir's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 11:58
yaesir
This is the end.

The Gizmondo is the only console you will ever need.

EVER.
PSIq0ut's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:00
PSIq0ut
what...no churchill?
Artadius's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:04
Artadius
Money talks... and right now Sony's writing checks that its mouth can't cash. They'll probably be fine though, they just need to re-evaluate the market and their strategies.

Oh wait, that's advice that should have been followed through months ago. Yikes.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:20
wardrox
oh my, when Summa doesn't say the PS3 is is the greatest thing since porn... things must realy be bad.
joeisremy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:21
joeisremy
It needs to be about the video games not the fucking blu-ray. I want to play video games, they should have made it like the hd player for the 360 you can buy if you want but for those of us who don't give a shit. Sony seems to following the marketing plan of the 3DO. I don't know when playstation became the bad guys but it blows that they are. But the sad thing is is mgs4 remains ps3 only(which at this point seems very unlikely) I will have to buy one until then I will continue to hug my Wii wait for Smash Brothers and Curb stoping people using the amazing network known as xbox live.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:22
Darren Nakamura
When they get good exclusives, people will buy it. Don't worry, Summa. Your favorite company to fanboy won't be going anywhere.
DannyLove99's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:25
DannyLove99
Yeah, things aren't looking too hot now, but Home will give sales a nice shot in the arm.
imcowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:28
imcowman
Right now the only thing that would get it going is software support, and sadly the software support for the PS3 is the same or worse than the Wii. And that sucks. Plus, the exclusives keep going byebye.

Everyone I know who owns a PS3 claims it is amazing, but they are all considering buying something else, or playing their 360 about 24 hours more a day than their PS3.
John Martone's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:29
John Martone
Isn't there an obvious logic flaw in this entire discussion? (not with the content, just with the prompt)
If the system set records in its "first" week, then shouldn't we expect a low for several weeks after? I mean, they sold a bunch load, but everyone who wanted one got one.

Who waits for week two to buy a launch system?
Yep, that second week is really when all the fence riders jump off it.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:29
gamesronlygames
Summa, When there's crackdown and all the other great 360 titles now and on the way-I'd have to say-Yawn-let all the japanese gundam and rpg geeks keep it afloat if they can. Iam sure it will be fine in the long run and may even an exclusive, but any saavy business man would yank exclusivity on a AAA title. DOing otherwise would be nutz I'll stick to crackdown
twesterm's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:33
twesterm
Wow, negative Sony article from Summa...

Anyways, there's not a lot that cam save Sony right now and the things that can don't look likely to happen.

1) Exclusives: It's going to take about 8-10 good games that either exclusives or have content that makes the PS3 version than the others (think Link in Soul Calibur III) and I don't see that happening anytimes soon. Sony is bleeding exlusives at the moment and the only two that are probably going to stay exclusives, MGS4 and FFXIII, won't be enough to pull the system out of any kind of rut.

2) Price: A price drop will come, but not in time and not significant enough. If the PS3 does receive a price cut, it's not going to be more than $50 which is just going to be like a punch in the face. Sure, $550 is less than $600, but it's still far more than I'll ever pay for a console.

3) Blu-Ray: Blue-ray isn't doing bad at the moment, but sadly it's in made only of losers so it really doesn't matter. Not enough people have the TV's to take advantage of Blu-Ray or even HDDVD so there just isn't a need for media switching yet. Most people that do own an HD TV aren't going to throw away their DVD collection just yet either, they would rather wait until a clear winner comes out so they aren't left with a dead media player or dead media.

4) Online: The PS3 has the potential of having a good online service, but sadly it's trying to copy Nintendo and MS and it just can't win. Live is beyond awesome and Sony is never going to match that for free and the PS3 Home thing will never be as cool as Mii's and it's not nearly simple enough to compare to Achievements.

5) Attitude: Sony could improve their attitude and make things at least a little better, but it's not going to happen. How many times have we said "well this should make Sony a little less arrogant" or something along those lines? Too many to count. How many times have they changed their attitude? Zero. Sony isn't going to change their attitude anytime soon and when they finally do, it will be far too late.

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Long story short, the PS3 launched too early. All could have been fixed if they launched Christmas '08 and I could easily see that as the dominant console in 2010. Now, it's just going to be this gen's Gamecube. The people that have it will love it and it will have some grat games, but it will never do well.

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Natedizzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:40
Natedizzle
Awww jeez Summa not this again. For those of you saying there are no good games for the PS3- how many good games does the 360 have right now and its been out over a year. The only game I have for 360 is Gears.... I may get Crackdown and I am looking forward to Mass Ef and HALO 3... hope its better than HALO 2. Sure there are a few mediocre games but what else is there on the 360 that's worth playing?
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:45
Namelessted
Didn't I say this last week? And very few people actually agreed. People seemed to think those UK sales were good, but I said that the fact it didn't sell out was terrible. And week 2 shows this. Very few people want a PS3, and most of the people that actually want to waste that money already have. The PS3 will continue to sell in the UK just like it is in the US and Japan, very slowly. The console is going to sit in stores collecting dust.

People keep saying "It just needs some good games." I honestly think it is too late for that. The only real system seller right now would be Final Fantasy XIII (all 27 versions of the game). MGS4 is popular among hardcore gamers, not the mass market so MGS4 won't be a system seller. Other than that I can't really think of any game that would make people want a PS3. The mass market can get both Madden and GTAIV on the PS3 or teh 360. And with so many people already with a 360 it is likely that the person will get a 360 over a PS3.

I really think it is just too late for Sony.
Kagari's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:45
Kagari
I only own 1 game for my 360 (Dead Rising). I traded Gears and Prey in and as of now there's not A THING out for it I want as well. Meanwhile, my PS3 has 4 games that I actively play, and they have all come out within the last 3 months.
Creamsnake's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:49
Creamsnake
@John Martone: Thank God somebody said it. I think your logic is sound. 82% is pretty huge... but it was the fastest selling console EVER.

Sony is not doomed. And all those who wish otherwise should know that would be a very bad thing for the industry. Actually, the same goes for Nintendo and Microsoft.

Competition is good.





subnet6's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:49
subnet6
Admittedly, with such a high starting point, the following week is going to be a big drop, but this goes beyond big I think. Lets see what happens next week. Maybe it will bounce back a bit. Funny this news should come so soon after Roberts last post. I wonder if he is even finished cleaning up from the party he threw after his last "PS3 is a massive success in the UK! In your face bitches!" post.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:49
Namelessted
@Natedizzle, Dead Rising, Burnout Revenge, Oblivion, Crackdown, Gears, Fight Night Round 3, Rainbow 6: Vegas, GRAW 1 and 2, Viva Pinata.

Blue Dragon is coming out soon, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey, Shadowrun, Huxley. all these coming out within this year I believe.

These are just a few games I came up with off the top of my head. The only game I can think of for PS3 is Resistance. and Ratchet & Clank is supposed to be coming out sometime, prolly next year.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:53
Namelessted
@creamsnake and peoples, you are looking at it all wrong. The fact is that it is a new launch console in the UK. Yes, it was the fastest selling. So was the Wii, and the 360, and the Gamecube, and the PS2. That statistic doesn't mean shit. What matters is that there was a decent supply of PS3s and they didn't sell out. What matters is that there is not a demand for the PS3. Just like in the US right now. I could go in to stores before Christmas and find at least one PS3.

If there is no demand for a system then it is not going to sell. This is extremely bad news for sony. When other systems sales drop tremendously the following week it is because there is no supply, there are no systems to sell. But there are plenty of PS3s sitting around and they aren't selling.
JoeCamNet's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:55
JoeCamNet
I love it when a pompous fanboy gets shut the fuck up by his failing system.
subnet6's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:56
subnet6
@namelessted,

Ok, well, I think he meant BESIDES those games. What else is there huh? Yeah, thats what I thought.
;)
Natedizzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 12:57
Natedizzle
@namelessted
Played Dead Rising, not that impressed. Played one of the Burnouts on the first XBox, it was fun but I dont need to play it on the 360. Played Oblivion on my PC a year ago, 120+ hours finishing all main and a lot of the side quests. GRAW was pretty good but I woudlnt spend $60 bucks on it or the 2nd one. Getting Rainbow 6 for the PS3 at the end of the month.

I plan on buying PS3 versions of all of the titles coming out on both systems because hey, I have HDMI hooked up to my PS3. :)

A lot of people don't think about the exclusive titles that are under the radar right now no one knows about.
twesterm's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:05
twesterm
@JoeCamNet
"I love it when a pompous fanboy gets shut the fuck up by his failing system."

Problem is that they're not shutting up. >_<

And for people saying the 360 doesn't have good games, pretty much what namelessted said. Good game doesn't necessarily mean what you like, it just means what the big games are. About half the games in his list I hate but I still recognize they're big names.

And as for the sales, sales slumping 8% isn't a big thing for the 2nd week, but sales dropping 82% is. Go back and look at the 360 and Wii sales charts and I guarantee they didn't drop anywhere near 82% even months after launch.

And yeah, quantity on shelves after launch really tells you all you need to know. 87% of statistics are made up on the spot and don't mean anything, what matters is what you can actually see. Sony launched in Europe with, what, 300k? They sold about 165k launch week. Last week they sold about 30k meaning there are about 100k launch consoles not being sold along with whatever was shipped after launch.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:06
aborto thefetus
Wait for the good stuff? what good stuff? All the exclusives it has are defecting!
twesterm's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:07
twesterm
Natedizzle
"A lot of people don't think about the exclusive titles that are under the radar right now no one knows about."

Unanounced exlusive titles don't sell me a system, released exclusive titles do.

As for what you said about the games, read my previous post.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:09
Namelessted
firstly, i would recommend at least downloading the Burnout Revenge demo. The first couple on the gamecube/ps2/xbox aren't nearly as fun as Burnout Revenge on the 360.

2. How much did you pay for your HDMI cable? if it was more than $15 you payed too much.

3. what exclusives are under the radar right now? I know of Lair and R&C off the top of my head. But why are they under the radar? It is Sony's job to try to get people to want their product and keeping products under the radar is the worst way to do that.
Creamsnake's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:15
Creamsnake
@namelessted: You're a pretty smart guy. Your logic is also sound. But I think the lack of demand is due almost entirely to the price tag. Let us not forget how many PS2 owners are out there. Do you think NONE of them wish they had a PS3?

I just don't think it's fair to say "there's no demand." I think I get what your saying. But a lot of people want a PS3 but either can't afford or just refuse to pay out the ass for it. That doesn't mean no one will ever buy one...

I'm not saying Sony will "win this generation" I just don't think they are completely fucked... We'll see how effectively Sony can drop prices without going bankrupt. It should be interesting.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:17
mix
@Nameleessted
I paid $14 (Canadian) for my HDMI, my buddy paid $115 for his TV to DVD one...I laughed in his face.

I'm with the games on this one for the PS3 as soon as some big hitter arrive people will be more willing to purchase the system. I have owned my PS3 and I still own 1 game and am thinking about Oblivion or Motorstorm...but I'm not too sure right now and I would bet that if the Wii did not launch with Zelda behind its ranks it would not have sold as it did as I mean c'mon, the other games for Wii suck hardcoreingly bad.
IMO
JoeCamNet's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:17
JoeCamNet
Hey, Guitar Hero II is on the 360 now. Chalk up another must have.

Also, Sneak King. :D

Also, my previous comment about a pompous fanboy getting shut the fuck up by his failing system wasn't directed at any of the conversation here in the comments section.
Sphinx 13's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:19
Sphinx 13
Considering I saw pictures of Ebay on launch day and people were selling their PS3s for less then they paid. It's not a good sign when it's week 2 and they aren't selling. I remember for months after the 360 launch, I could go into stores and never see a 360. $600 and $800 are way too much for a BluRay player and the lack of exclusives kill it even more.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:21
Gameboi
*Maniacal laughter, and taps playing in the background*
godofyouall's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:33
godofyouall
I am from the UK and am definately not going to get a PS3. The xbox 360 has been out for ages now and the majority of the PS3 games are just straight ports of 360 games that have already been out on the 360 for months. Graphical comparrisons of these games prove the 360 superiority, with better frame rates and graphics. Just as the first xbox was better than the playstation 2, the playstation2 won that round only because it was released first and as a result had much more game choice. This time around Sony loses ;-)
Banj's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:33
Banj
In in the UK and when I went to the cinema last week every other trailer was for the NobStation. Personally, I'd rather chew my own nuts than drop 450 queen quids on a console with fuck all to play but XBOX hand-me-downs.

...just saying.
Banj's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:34
Banj
Ooh look GodOfYouAll, I said the same thing as you but with colourful language. Hurray for us.
Brandon Undead's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:34
Brandon Undead
Good stuff? Elaborate plz.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:38
gamesronlygames
THere's only gears for 360? A Namelessted pointed out there are several great games and mark my words unless sales increase significantly MGS4 and FF will be shared with 360ville. No doubt about it. They will see capcom's profits and follow suit. Compannies must invest or there will be no more resources for future games. Can companies survive on ps3 exclusives-Get ready boys-the wii(as much as its games are mainly sucky now) will be what ps2 was last gen, and the 360 will be what the ps2 was last gen! Unless they drop 200 off the price of the ps3 that is, or match it to the elite pricepoint. But even then it will be a few years before they take the lead again. But by a few yrs the 360 will be smokin' even more and another year ahead of the ps3. Sony should have been more affordable and timely.
godofyouall's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2007 13:41
godofyouall
@ Banj
You seemed to say it much more elequantly than I ever could LOL :-)
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