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PS3 firmware 3.41 allegedly causing system crashes photo

PS3 firmware 3.41 was recently launched, and despite containing a potential patch that makes future updates easier, some users are complaining that they can't update at all, with the new firmware reportedly causing system crashes. 

Some users are being told to check their network settings, even though they are connected just fine and nothing's changed on their network in the short space of time since the last firmware update. Those that have managed to install the update have received an error message stating that "no applicable data" can be retrieved.

Sony is claiming that it's not the firmware per se, but the individual hard disc drives. Sony suggests updating the HDD first, then installing the new firmware with a thumb drive. 

Of course, some users say they have managed to get the firmware running without problems, and are thus claiming that there isn't an issue at all. Everybody knows that if your own particular console has been running fine, then that means all the consoles are perfect. 

Remember when you'd just put games into your gaming console and then played them? Y'know, before companies like Sony arbitrarily issued mandatory firmware updates that caused gamers to go on wild goose chases to update their systems with useless shit that has no real benefit to them? Yeah, I miss those days. 

PS3 Firmware 3.41 causing HDD problems [CVG]








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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:32
Chris Carter
"Everybody knows that if your own particular console has been running fine, then that means all the consoles are perfect."

So true.

"I HAVE NOA PROBLEMS U GUYS ARE JUST XBOTS".
T3HM0RR0W's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:35
T3HM0RR0W
TOAD!!!!!!!
Lamadude64's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:36
Lamadude64
This post makes me feel sick. Like a cow.
Cowsick, you could say.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:38
pokota
Well, it looks like Jim's day has been made already. I bet he was giggling with glee when he ran across this.
msuvivi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:38
msuvivi
Phew i thought they were putting red rings on my ps3... i got nervous.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:41
Super Drybones
pfft, my Colecovision still runs fine.
shadowcake8102's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:41
shadowcake8102
"Remember when you'd just put games into your gaming console and then played them? Y'know, before companies like Sony arbitrarily issued mandatory firmware updates that caused gamers to go on wild goose chases to update their systems with useless shit that has no real benefit to them? Yeah, I miss those days."

Yeah, I do miss those days.... Especially when this kind of update does shit and nothing else.
Leon Field's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:42
Leon Field
Eww Cowsick all over my console...
Nyktharas's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:42
Nyktharas
No problems with mine yet. Automatic updates got a patch for Uncharted 2 for me last night.

Sucks when stuff like this happens though.
Ujn Hunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:44
Ujn Hunter
Burn Sony. Burn.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:46
Corduroy Turtle
@12fiftyONE:
Last time I checked, Jim could do whatever the hell he wants. I'm sure he really appreciates the advice though.
Alxariam's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:47
Alxariam
Leave it to Sony to fuck up anot- ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:48
Jim Sterling
Last time I checked, CVG isn't Destructoid and Destructoid isn't CVG.

Methinks if you want everything done the way CVG does it, you should just stick to reading CVG. You'd kind of have to be a moron to read a writer you don't even like.

Oh wait, never mind ...
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:48
Red TheHaze Veron
RARARARARARARARRAJIMBIASRARARARARARARARARARA
HombreGato's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:50
HombreGato
For once, I agree with Jim.

A Heavy-Rain (yes Jim, Heavy Rain) mandatory firmware update deleted my profile, and I learned that many games require that trophies be synced up with your profile info just to load up the game and play offline.

The only way to repair this: Start a new profile, sign on, and link it to your PSN, which required my taking it to a friend's house because my internet has never worked with the Playstation, wired or wireless.

That said, Heavy Rain as well as a score of other exclusives, along with a controller that doesn't feel like a generic toysrus purchase make me favor the PS3 over the competition by far. The above issue just cements my belief that this entire linked-up generation is a shadow of the PS1 and PS2 generations.
that1dood's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:50
that1dood
I didn't have any problems updating (although it did take forever and a day). Although my system did crash for the first time since I bought it shortly after I installed the latest update. I was watching something on Hulu Plus and all of a sudden it locked up and then restarted out of nowhere. Not sure if that's a related issue, but it still sucked.

12fiftyONE: Apparently you didn't read the post. The only opinion he placed was in the last little paragraph. One that isn't without merit. Ease off the Haterade.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:51
GoodGuyA
@12fiftyONE- Not sure that you can regulate that he MUST post only the facts and no opinion. Jim has stated that he is not a journalist. He writes opinionated columns. He misses the old days of optical media and he wanted to share with the class. Your arguments are invalid.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:52
Black Nexus
Yeah these are getting kinda hard to believe, every firmware we hear this yet outta 100 people on my freinds list and 12 close personal freinds who have ps3s this has never happened to any of us once.

Also the claims always come from suspect sources (to say the least ), hell I've seen people who don't have ps3 say this so yeah, gotta call BS until proven true with these.
dephect's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:57
dephect
No problems here.

I swear its half the people that are installing just turning their system off mid way. "I will just finish this later".
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:58
KwikPwn
@Black Nexus

"Sony is claiming that it's not the firmware per se, but the individual hard disc drives. Sony suggests updating the HDD first, then installing the new firmware with a thumb drive."

Sony must be in on it!!!
Hriki's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 10:59
Hriki
Jim i like you. But i hate how you diss spin rag tag tabloids and yet spin more than a dog with a treat on it's tail.

Sony didn't invent this shit man. And you like those days? Then easy fix: disconnect your PS3 from the network, and you don't have to worry about it, games go in and just play! And like those days, you don't get online multiplayer, but that is a trade off for no updates.

They don't force you to stay connected, disconnect, easy done. Good old days!
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:00
hpv
Only negative effect I've noticed since the update is that it's taking even longer than usual to sync the trophies.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:00
EternalDeathSlayer
12fiftyone: Uhh, we read Dtoid for the opinionated news coverage. Perhaps I don't want to read dull, lifeless prose? Perhaps I like to enjoy myself a little?
msuvivi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:01
msuvivi
or it is happening to such a small group that it is really of no note.

its not like like its a 50% fail rate. if it was something like that i think we would all agree that you should not buy that equipment.

oh wait you say you have an xbox?
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:01
Jim Sterling
"Jim i like you. But i hate how you diss spin rag tag tabloids and yet spin more than a dog with a treat on it's tail."

Where was the spin in this article?
Doobles's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:02
Doobles
Mo' "content" mo' problems.
HombreGato's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:03
HombreGato
@Black Nexus
That's naive. Spend some time at the Sony forums and you'll see extensive threads on system issues since 3.00, and people in the industry are upset that Sony has given firmware management to a cheaper, less experienced team since then.

It's no red ring but it is troubling. If I hadn't been able to get online when I had my problem, it would still be unable to play most games even offline.
T3HM0RR0W's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:03
T3HM0RR0W
"Toads are traditionally a negative symbol. They are commonly viewed as demonic creatures, often magical yet evil." Wikia Symbolism

Kinda like disruptive software updates... I think I see a pattern emerging...

Oh, and ON topic: Yeah, I do love the idea of a console that simply WORKS when I need it to work. Call me lazy, but that's probably the main reason that I've stuck to consoles over the years. I just don't have the time to tinker with and troubleshoot my rig during my downtime.
that1dood's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:08
that1dood
Paragraph 1: FACTS!

Paragraph 2: FACTS!

Paragraph 3: FACTS!

Paragraph 4: 50% FACTS! 50% OPINIONS!

Paragraph 5: OPINIONS! Also, nostalgia.

By my count that's like 75% fact, with only a little "I miss the old days when crap like this didn't happen" comment thrown in. A nostalgic moment by Jim = "OMFG TABLOID SPIN DERPA DERP DERP!" ?

Advice to haterade drinking assholes: Fuck off. I'm looking at your 12fiftyone
Malik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:08
Malik
You'll live.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:11
Themightylebeau2009
@ super Drybones - So does my atari 2600!

@ Hriki - But if he does that he will be left with buying unfinished games that NEED patching, its tantamount to piracy I tell ya's.
Hriki's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:15
Hriki
You spun a firmware issue that is unforseeable into a final paragraph dissing Sony as key perpertraitors to digital updates corrupting the simple joys of gaming. You're taking one little issue and making it seem like Sony helped end simple gaming. That's spin
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:16
Videodrone31
@1251

Your my hero!! Keep on teaching people how to properly use the Internet!!! Thnx a million:)
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:16
ChickenNow
"Everybody knows that if your own particular console has been running fine, then that means all the consoles are perfect."

The opposite is also true Jim. Trust me there's plenty of people that find a problem with some consumer electronic and convince themselves it must be a pandemic and that everyone else in the world has the same problem. I work in tech support for a big accessory company, I hear this shit every single day.
NotoriousBIG420's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:18
NotoriousBIG420
I don't understand...my xbox works fine! ;-P
lolipantsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:19
lolipantsu
After the update I kept getting PSN errors when trying to download and install multiple items that I'd gotten off the store. I had to go to my downloads list afterwards and download each item individually.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:19
Mr Andy Dixon
@x1251

Sounds like you should stop reading Destructoid and spend all your time at CVG.

No, really. Do it.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:20
Jim Sterling
"You spun a firmware issue that is unforseeable into a final paragraph dissing Sony as key perpertraitors to digital updates corrupting the simple joys of gaming. You're taking one little issue and making it seem like Sony helped end simple gaming. That's spin"

Nope. That's sarcasm based off a personal, publicly subjective and accountable opinion. Spin would be if I said "Sony is a key perpetrator to digital updates corrupting the simple joys of gaming and this evidence proves it."

That's the problem with a lot of people who read gaming blogs. They think they're reading journalists and thus think everything they say is being presented as an iron-clad fact and not a personal opinion.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:22
Themightylebeau2009
@ NotoriousBIG420 - Seriously, dont go there lol

Mrandydixon is the purveyor of sound advice and should be heeded.

Waiting for housemate to get in and see if his PS3 is going to get borked too, fingers crossed it doesnt, I got my self Uncharted 2 for the weekend :-(
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:22
Drakengard
You know Jim, you're right. I miss the days when games couldn't be patched and systems couldn't add new features.

You what I also miss? Those old turn-dial telephones and giant brick cellphones. Hell, I miss Windows 95!

Screw this world and it's progress and dammit for not always working perfectly!
audiosnag's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:22
audiosnag
Hahaha suck on that PS3tards!
That's what you get for spending $700 on a half finished console you need to update every two weeks to keep running.
What a borked piece of trash! LOLOMG

....sorry, wanted to give the trolling thing a try...i still don't see the appeal.

This sucks, sony needs to figure out some way of making the whole update process a little less intrusive.
The longest i've had to wait for an update on the 360 is like a minute. NOT saying it's better, just saying i'm sure Sony should be smart enough to figure out how to make it work as well.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:23
runtheplacered
@ Jim,

"Remember when you'd just put games into your gaming console and then played them? "

You're right. Why did we ever move away from the Super Nintendo?
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:24
runtheplacered
@ ChickenNow,

"The opposite is also true Jim. Trust me there's plenty of people that find a problem with some consumer electronic and convince themselves it must be a pandemic and that everyone else in the world has the same problem. I work in tech support for a big accessory company, I hear this shit every single day."

It's also true that working in tech support taints you. There's plenty of people in tech support that think that the few people that call and whine about asinine things represent the majority of the human race, which is just not true. I used to work in tech support, but having lived in reality for a bit now, I see that my view was skewed.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:48
DinnertimeNinja
This "outcry" happens EVERY SINGLE TIME ANY SYSTEM UPDATES EVER.

When updating any firmware, there is always a very slight chance that something could go wrong, even under 100% ideal conditions. Now, couple that with the fact that millions of gamers aren't operating their systems under anywhere near ideal conditions and factor in the possibility that outside hardware (user-installed HDs) could be an issue and you've got a guarantee that SOMEONE is going to have a problem.

And let's not forget that a single person bitching counts as much as 1000 people having no problems to be seen.


Also, not sure if it was you guys that reported it or if I read it elsewhere, but apparently the most recent firmware had some hidden features that will supposedly enable future updates to be faster and less resource intensive to perform.

Here's hoping.
NotoriousBIG420's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:48
NotoriousBIG420
I have not turned my PS3 on in over about 2 weeks I would say...should turn it on this weekend and see if I run into any of these "alleged" problems that these people seem to "allegedly" be running into when they "allegedly" turn on their PS3's
msuvivi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:54
msuvivi
@Jim

No you do put your own little spin on almost every blog entry you put out that is what makes you, you!
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:55
Stephen Beirne
Drakengaurd may have been joking but I love those big turn-dial telephones.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:55
JACK of No Trades
Just stop reading and commenting on Jim's articles and he will stop.
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 11:58
KrazyKraut
ehm...only crashed during the sucky K&L2 demo...nowhere else
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2010 12:01
Jim Sterling
"This is why sites like PSXExtreme can call their writers ournalists, unlike Destructoid"

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