I would buy the PS3 in a heart beat if it was 299. Should have kept the 20 Gigger around? Perhaps a 349.99 model?

A comparable 360 is more expensive, but when I got mine I didn't need a wireless router, my house had ethernet connections. Didn't need HD movies either, I play games on my console. PS3 is great value, but if you don't want the things it offers with no alternative...people aren't going to buy it, not for that price.

I love my Playstation 3.

I just love how games and the press are always "what have you done for me lately" about so much. As an example, Wii had nothing this holiday thus is teh suck. PS3 had had Home launch recently and SUPRISE didn't get good black friday sales = PS3 is sabotaging itself. Frankly, I have all three and don't care which one more people love. Because, frankly, Sony has proven themselves a developer of high quality standards and even if the system becomes this generations gamecube, there is still Sony deving games.

But I have noticed in many, many podcasts recently it's become cool to hate the PS3 again.

@Strandli

Yeah, but Japan has disliked Xbox since it's first incarnation which was a MASSIVE flop in Japan. They're still on the fence about the 360 even though it has a decent Japanese game library this time around. Microsoft just blew it when it came to getting Japanese developers on board.

I think the 360 will continue to be a success in the US due to it's price point, game library and online content. In Asia, the sales will probably continue to rise, but overall Sony and Nintendo still own Asia's gaming markets.

It's not fair to call EITHER a flop right now.

Well for mass market price is very important. Wii $250 and 360 $200, the PS3 $400. Almost double the price with half the library. Presentation is important too with the Wii having Mii's, 360 have Mii's copycats and PS3 has fellatio loving perfect human beings hanging out in a mall(video removed due "terms of use violation")... just 2 points that make the a big part of the presentation card of the console to ultimately make it seem unapproachable... At least LBP is making the console a bit more user friendly and approachable.

Up to this point the only thing Average Joe thinks to justify his choice is BluRay, "the hidden power of the PS3" along an Obama like "promise of a better future". For me Mr. Hardcore gamer Nothxbai I have Wii60 and not planning to upgrade my awesome DVD movie collection anytime soon.

So yeah. I think PS3 = fail @ more than 2 years since launch and I hope it gets better in the sake of healthy competition.

Yes, the PS3 is a VERY expensive piece of hardware. But, I have only owned one and had no problems with it. Most of my 360 loving friends are now on their 2nd, 3rd some 4th Xbox 360. Which equals a cost of what?

well its black.. how fucking cool is that!?

PS3 has a few gems here and there, as do all the systems, but I'm still waiting for the PS9. If they can ever deliver that, then everything else is minuscule in comparison.

As for now I do have more gaming time on the 360 (playing a few games) than the PS3 (only playing LBP) and my Wii is collecting more dust Rosie O'Donnells box.

its all about the playstation controllers! i cant get an xbox till i can use my duelshock on it :D

Hmmmm. I love my PS3 for the games it does have. But i'm not as avid a gamer anymore, so that viewpoint isn't for everyone.

Hell I still really enjoy playing Warhawk.

It's definitely flawed, but I enjoy it and it's games so w/e.

As someone with both a Wii and a gaming PC, I've been looking at getting a 360 or a PS3. To be honest, I'm leaning towards PS3 right now... especially if I can get a 60gb one.

Most of the 360 games are available for the PC or PS3.. and I just don't care as much about its few exclusives (or the few titles that work better on the 360) than the PS3's (Valkyria Chronicles, Metal Gear Solid 4, FF13 will still be better and earlier than the 360, FF13 VS.).

Message to Sony:

MARKET YOUR FUCKING CONSOLE PROPERLY.

Seriously, Sony. Enough with these retarded 'artistic' ads. Is it really that hard to think of a good marketing campaign? Show off what the system can do! Blu-ray, DVD, music, photos, GAMES...

@askherserinty... actually you are right, yes final fantasy is coming to the 360, but I think that ff versus xiii looks amazing and at this point (even better than ff xiii) is still a PS3 exclusive.

I think Sony did their marketing terribly wrong in this generation. It's ok to make a powerful console, but instead of talking about the hardware and what it in theory is capable of doing, they should show more games early on, and prove what it could do. If they did this correctly, more people would by the damn thing, and more developers would be convinced that Sony is not talking bullshit about the capabilities of the PS3.
In short: They should have focused on the games from day one, not the hardware. That would change a lot I think.

But what will happen when Xbox 720 comes out? Will people buy the Ps3, or jump on the new wagon with few games and such? That time is undeniably coming, but will MS increase their lead, or will they lose a lot of people to Sony?

The price is a genuine issue. It's not just a perceived issue for the ignorant masses, which is what several people seem to be suggesting. It doesn't matter what Sony's offering and it doesn't matter if the console is 100 times as powerful as the 360 (obviously ridiculous). $400 is a lot to pay for a game console and Sony needs to realize there are people (I'm one of them) who simply will not buy the console until the price drops.

In other news, Karma is still a bitch to contend with.

Don't let the other system fool ya. The one and only reason they have had a surge in sales is due to stripping down their system to amost nothing and giving it away for less than a Wii. It's their last ditch effort and screams of despiration. Unfortunately most fanboys are kids and don't quite understand business. What is M$ gonna do next year? Will they lower the price even further, just to say sales are maintainng, even though they're making no profit? The PS3 has Killzone 2, GOW3, Rain and Gran Tourismo all due next year. M$ has Halo expansion pack and probably another Gears. They're quickly moving closer to time for a 720 release. Answer me this, do you really want to see a PS3 version released that has no blu-ray, wifi or hard drive, and being sold at $199 only to see more sales? What would this accomplish other than fanboy fodder? It would cheapen the PS3 and not just price wise. Do you think Mercedes will ever drop their price below that of a Honda, just to sell more cars? Do you think that just because Honda sells more it makes it a better car, or that it means Mercedes is failing? Come kids, stop reading all the doom and gloom blogs out there that claim that the PS3 and Blu-ray are failing. I'm willing to bet that M$ has a hand in spreading most of that jibberish. Example, they claim Blu-ray is dying because streaming/downloadable movies are on the rise. Lets analyze that for a minute. Do this one simple thing, and look at all the people you know and look at how many have a blu-ray player or PS3, and then look at how many have an AppleTV/Vudu or some other streaming movie box. Most people don't even have the patience for it, most that even have connection in their living rooms are using wireless, most that I know go to Blockbuster more frequently than they use PPV.

@Pacman33:
Yes, the 360 is more expensive if you add all those features it is missing compared to the PS3. But the fine thing about that is that they can choose what they want. Ps3 can't really remove anything. All the games use the Blu-Ray drive, and many games need a hdd to play. So there isn't much Sony can remove to cut the price. They already removed the card readers, backwards compatibility, 2 usb ports. The only thing they can remove now is the wireless adapter, and that is just stupid. The PS3 is cheap when you actually look at what you are getting, the question is: Do YOU need it?

I love, and want the multimedia capabilities the ps3 is offering, so I am very pleased with the PS3 at the moment, but I can see many gamers don't.

But, the PS3 promised a 10 year lifetime, and if I know Sony right, they are keeping that promise, unlike 360 which is soon to be replaced. I just think it's sad that the good guy (PS3, from a PS3 fanboy perspective) is loosing this fight. They promise 10 year support, they make NEW games, not just kicking the old franchises, they make the online free, they give us optional Home, and much more. I think it's sad that someone which such good motives are losing on it.

Yeah, I will agree with the many people who have said that the PS3 is terribly marketed.

But is it still a good system? Very much so. I own a PS3, and have constant access to a 360 and I much prefer my PS3. I like the interface more (we won't mention Home), many games are multiplatform and the ones that aren't I can do without because friends own them (think about it. Most 360 exclusives are big multiplayer draws-Gears of War, Halo, Left 4 Dead-whereas many noteworthy PS3 exclusives are single player based-Uncharted, MGS4, God of War, Heavy Rain, etc) and free online is certainly a big help (all those people harping on how cheap the 360 is don't mention that it requires you to drop another 50 bucks right out of the box to even use most of its features). Not to mention, I'd much rather play with the PSN's far more mature base (I haven't been called the N word once!).

In the end, both are great consoles. I just wish Sony would do something so that more people would know what a great console it is.

And whoever keeps saying that the PS3 library is weak, how so?

So much PS3 hate
PS3 outsold 360 for 10 months this year, with a cost of $100 more and no praise. xD
People tend to forget the only reason 360 is outselling the big black box is price(only after the cut xbox took the lead again). PS3 is making itself more appealing by the day thanks to BR, gradual improvement in graphics and its huge 1st party games. At this point the 360 can only rely on further price cuts.
Although nothing is certain, look at the wii. Crappy system, craptastic games...

But MS deserves a freaking medal. They changed the media's "we hate MS" stereotype. They passed it out to sony. (even with the RROD) xD
MS+1

I don't understand the "mediocre game library" argument with PS3. PS3 gets most of the games 360 gets, minus a few exclusives, but PS3's exclusives are great. Resistance, MGS4, LBP? I mean come on, PS3's exclusives aren't bad at all, and you can probably name a good PS3 exclusive for every good 360 exclusive (not counting Gears or Mass Effect- I have those on PC).

It seems like people are looking at the state of the PS3 a year ago, and applying it to the PS3's current state, which is wrong.

I really think they do need new marketing management. The ps3 isn't a bad piece of hardware, but Sony's marketing traditions do not help developers when they need it most, and the company isn't really selling the console to anyone who isn't already a fanboy.

I don't have an Xbox 360 but I still own L4D, Bioshock, and Mass Effect... and I plan on buying Braid and Fable 2 when they come to PC, lolz.