Well, I'm not suprised that the greatest console ever made continue to wipe the floor with everything else, although being a bit old. Think of the PS2 as that fiesty grandma that won't go down without a fight.

Hmm that's a good point Magesx.

PS2 is probably the greatest console ever made to date.

It started when the thinner PS2 game out.

well it is true, shit im still playing Chrono Trigger (ps1), FF collection (ps1), Odins sphere (ps2). but im playing all of them on my PS3 >_>;

Damn right. Every time I walk into the local EB Games lately, looking for a DS or 360 game, I always end up coming out with a PS2 game. Odin Sphere FTW

The Next-Gen consoles would be taking off if they didn't make such damn good games on the PS2

The whole PS3/360 movement is way out of kilter with what's actually happening in digital entertainment. This is not the fucking 50's, technology is not supposed to be an expensive novelty, this is the age of mass production and shrinking hardware sizes, technology is meant to be cheap and affordable to all.

It's just very strange that within three conoles, Sony have forgotten what made the Playstation brand so succesful in the first place. This is what happens when you become too specialist by trying to please a "type" of consumer rather than try to attract all potential customers.

@Zardoz
"This is what happens when you become too specialist by trying to please a "type" of consumer rather than try to attract all potential customers."

This is true, but the Wii is trying to attract everyone, and it's still getting pitiful numbers right now, at least compared to PS2.

@infinity

Hell Yeah! I'd love to see a next-gen Payne though.

uptonogood- I think what Zardoz is saying is that if Sony knew what it they were doing, the PS3 would have been a hell of a lot cheaper and would have had a hell of a lot more 1st party "mainstream" games for it by now.

Anyway, I the fact that the PS2 is still beating every home console but the Wii in sales should tell us one thing. Almost no one cares about those "Next Gen" graphics enough to shell out extra money for them.

I don't blame Sony for not predicting this occurance. It is a first.

Graphicly improvements have always mattered. The jump from 8bit to 16bit was huge, changing graphics from simple blocks to painterly illustrations. With, 16bit to 32bit you had the introduction of polygonal graphics that could actually depict recognizably human forms. 32bit to what ever the hell the PS2/GC/Xbox does for "bits" made those forms look nearly as good as 2D or 3D animated features. (Wind Waker, Kingdom Hearts, etc).

And now this 360/PS3 "Next Gen", where the only real improvements are HD, frame rates, shinier human skin with more noticable pours, more wrinkles on aliens/dragons/wahtever, and the ability to get real close to something and not see pixles.

People expect more for the cost of upgrading to these systems. The human characters in 360/PS3 games still aren't photo realistic. They still look like manakins, only more detailed.

Who cares about how detailed you manakins are?

In closing, the Japanese Hardware sales for this weak.-

- DS Lite: 154,459
- Wii: 86,786
- PSP: 32,894
- PS2: 14,059
- PS3: 12,187
- Xbox 360: 2,664

I bought Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne and Megaman X Collection for my PS2 today, I still have all the .hack games to slog through and Persona 3 comes out on the 14th.

The PS2 has plenty still left for it :D

PS2 is kinda MILF, isn't?
Old but delicious. And still got some mad skillz. Do the math... :-)

I think that Sony views a lot of gamers who just own a PS2 as eventual PS3 owners. The PS3 is selling to the hardcore fans right now, but as the game catalogue improves, more PS2 owners will make the jump to PS3.

@Wiisucks: So are your paychecks bouncing yet?

XeroxMe are you saying that the Wii has the same graphics as the PS2? or does one prove better?

Honestly after I saw FF12 & GoW, I was really blown away at the graphics. Now, what makes the Wii so great is the 1st party games and Miyamoto being the main brain for Nintendo's success, if that man dies, Nintendo will die off. To my eyes thats the only thing Nintendo has over the competition is that man.

Whats stopping Sony (biggest maker of electronics) to just replicate what nintendo does and do it better? that my friend is Shigeru Miyamoto :)

Ah yes, PS2, truely the greatest console to date; i still have the one i got back in 2000. Currently playing Odin Sphere(about half way through), with Persona 3 on my to get list. And there's a whole list of old games that i have yet to play but want to play, and even a few i want to replay since it's been so long since i played them. Really it should probably keep me happy for atleast another year or two before feeling the need to go next-gen... so ya, the current status of the next-gen consoles means little to me, it only matters where they will be a few years from now... expanded library of games? price cuts? consoles dying(PS3?)? annoucement of next-next-gen system (xbox1080?)... it's about where they'll be eventually

@XeroxMe
While the wii is stronger, it's not stronger by much. Really, the graphics wouldn't get that much better, the difference between the maximum of the PS2 and the max for the wii is pretty minimal, i doubt anyone would really notice the difference (unlike the difference between all last gen consoles and PS3/360), so they might as well make more profit by releasing on both PS2 and Wii... It's only by holding back on graphics and certain tech such as HiDef, is wii able to be sold at such a low and affordable price campared to the other next-gen consoles.

While I believe the figures, I should remind you Nielson's is somewhat of a sham god for advertisers to pray to with far less of a connection to reality as many give them credit for.

@ Gameboi:

Next-Gen Max Payne? It's called Stranglehold. :)

This is not surprising considering that more than 100 million own a PS2, and just over 20 million next/current gen consoles combined are in the peoples hands.

While I seriously disagree that PS2 is the best console ever made, I understand why people still play it - huge game library, cheap hardware, cheap games, GREAT games.