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It's been a while, but I know you're all eager for yet another talking head predicting that traditional games are dying in the shadow of mobile experiences. Today's villain is Bossa Studios head Henrique Olifiers, who thinks the Vita will die horribly.

"We'll keep on the lookout to see what the next gen will bring, but if they want more focus on tech specs rather than usability and accessibility, I don't think it will be for us," he stated. "I hate the fact you cannot play a game on the PS3 against the same game on the 360 or PC. Walled gardens in a world where people are freely connected all the time is just a dumb idea that limits what is achievable.

"Valve is bang on: proprietary stuff is madness, we should be moving to more open platforms, to interoperability, bringing everyone together. If this is not the motto for the big console manufacturers, not only will we not be there -- they're likely to die a horrible premature death, the kind of which I think the Vita will suffer from."

Bossa recently acquired the talents of former Last Guardian executive producer Yoshifusa Hayama. Jumping the ship after fiery visions of a blasted console wasteland? Probably not, but it's worth noting that many are eyeing more open, social platforms with increasingly hungry eyes.

Vita to suffer 'a horrible premature death,' says Bossa [Videogamer]








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Shane Saiyan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:34
Shane Saiyan
"I hate the fact you cannot play a game on the PS3 against the same game on the 360 or PC"

Could've sworn there are games that allow cross platform play. Sony at least, is open to allowing people to play cross platform with PC players. There could easily be more, but that's on the developers to, ya know, work to make it happen (like Valve did, funny how he mentions them and then claims you can't play cross platform on the PS3).
quantumriian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:38
quantumriian
I love the mention of the absurdity of the lack of complete cross platform play at this point. Right on.

As for the Vita, personally I wanted a psp like I want a papsmear on my anus, but I need the vita as much as I need my actual anus. Give it to me. The vita.
BrowneyeWinkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:39
BrowneyeWinkin
Steam console FTW
FireFox516's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:43
FireFox516
The fact that I still can't play The Beatles: Rock Band with 360 and Wii owners just pisses me off. I could maybe understand with the Wii, since maybe it's graphics engine might be different, but the 360 and PS3 not being able to play in harmony? What the hell?

It's not like the game has a different set of controls, or anything. Or even Gears of War PC. That community is dead, but the 360 is still alive (somewhat). There are different maps that 360 owners can't play, but that shouldn't stop the two from intertwining. Hell, even Shadow-fucking-Run allows GFWL users to play with 360 users.

Ugh, fuck non-cross platform play.
quantumriian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:44
quantumriian
@shame

Portal 2, the unreleased counter strike, and Shadowrun are the only games I can think of that allow cross platform play. And even there it is only between ps3 and pc (steam) or xbox and pc (windows) respectively. Please provide more examples if you can. Imagine, for instance, that every co op and multiplayer game released just within the last year allowed play between pc, ps3, and xbox players? Disregarding first party games and assuming the appropriate matchmaking systems, there is an enormous volume of games that "could" be cross platform (as opposed to multiplatform)

Also, he mentions valve specifically because they are doing this or at least have an eye toward it.
Mos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:44
Mos
But the 3DS is surviving very well, and it practically launched as an aborted fetus.
RAPONROCKOFF's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:44
RAPONROCKOFF
I can't wait until the vita sells gangbusters and shuts this Guy up.
mada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:44
mada7
Not an altogether surprising point of view really. Sony has not done very well when they have had legitimate competition and with the 3DS finally getting its killer apps in Mario 3D and Mario Kart is selling very well and sony is going to market with a significantly more expensive console that is appealing only towards hardcore gamers with properietary hardware. This is looking like another case of the DS vs PSP and I expect a similar result this go around with Sony making the exact same mistakes a second time in a row
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:45
Black Nexus
Someone who doesn't have a clue predicting the demise of a console that will inevitably sell well.

What else is new?
Andres Michael Rodriguez's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:46
Andres Michael Rodriguez
Have you seen the new Vita launch titles trailers .
OrangeArmy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:49
OrangeArmy
Yeah man,I hate it that I can't play Skyrim on my Sega Genesis!
IonOnion's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:51
IonOnion
Clueless isn't he especially in regards to Vita's cross platfrom play which is what sony is banking on. Dragon's Crown, Ruin, Wipeout, Street Figther vs Tekken and Motor Storm RC are some i know have Vita v PS3.
Mark Mann's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:52
Mark Mann
the most promising handheld die?

OH THE HORROR


THEvalrog's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:53
THEvalrog
vita is dead
OneRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:53
OneRed
At some point, people like this guys will probably be proven right. Not on any specific prediction, but on the fact that consoles have become shitty PCs to the point that consoles are no longer consoles, and there just is no real reason why consoles should even exist in their current form. I agree with the sentiment, I do, but the bold loudmouth predictions are ridiculous.

Do I hope for a gaming future that involves a unified medium with tens of companies competing in that space? Fuck yeah I do. Do I fantasize about Sony, Nintendo, and MSoft burning in the flames if/when that future comes to pass? Nope.
CaimDark's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:55
CaimDark
It's funny that the very people with a vested interest in the "death" of consoles are the ones that keep predicting its demise.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:55
RenegadePanda
Because that's a name we all know.

If no one knows who the hell you are, you really don't have a place to start judging the future of console gaming. Especially if your only argument is the lack of cross platform play.

Any online game that's large enough to warrant more than 2 months of community involvement has the numbers to ensure that you will be able to find a game on any platform, add that to the fact that most people who want to play with friends buy the game for that particular system anyway, and I don't see how cross platform play would change anything.

Except the entire match would become some flame war about which system is better and everyone would blame their success/failure on the fact that JoeShmoeA is on 360 and BillyMWGuy is on PS3. I think it's probably better for everyone if we keep already volatile communities separate.
wqerty's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:56
wqerty
3DS already died a horrible premature death didn't it
Fr33Kye's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 21:57
Fr33Kye
But....the vita is the most connected and open handheld ever..

I mean it still might die but it wont be for any of the reasons he says console gaming is going to die.
Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:00
Oishidesu
Bossa? Henrique Olifiers? Who the fuck are these guys, and why the fuck are they called "Boss"a, when they haven't even published a game worthy of praise and GOTY? But seriously, Henrique? You mean to tell me that a no-name Mexican can actually make an impact in the gaming community?

Stoopid racism aside, as much as I would want to play Battlefield 3 and other online games with people on the 360, PS3, and PC, there's nothing that I hate more than Facebook games and little IOS games. They now all think that they're hot shit because they attract people of all ages. Sony and Nintendo leaving the console market to make 3rd-party IPhone and Facebook games?? Stopping the Vita from getting released because the Iphone and Androids are really popular now? I hate all these people with a passion.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:04
Fugly Duckling
No! Not James Earl Jones!
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:04
Scissors
The thing I don't get is that people keep saying (insert something game related here) is going to die, at a time when gaming is expanding greatly and reaching all kinds of audiences. The 3DS and Vita are the two most impressive gaming handhelds ever. They don't have many of the restrictions that plagued previous generations.

I'm really getting annoyed by all these stories of mobile game companies saying dedicated handhelds will die. If they presented a reasonable argument I'd be okay with that, but what I keep hearing is. I make mobile games, mobile games is growing, I don't like dedicated gaming devices. Therefore portable gaming will die.

Why do you think people are so against phone gaming? It's because they're constantly attacking dedicated handhelds. I like my 3DS and plan to get a Vita, you like playing games on your phone. That's fine, now please stop telling me that it's going to "die" without presenting a cohesive argument. I can believe that the handheld market will shrink a little, but I don't believe it will disappear completely.
NickCull's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:04
NickCull
Nice header.
Baby Choo Choo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:04
Baby Choo Choo
Why can't we all just get along?
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:06
Max-
Whilst I agree with the open platforms part I don't think his argument was that well thought out as it could've been. What Valve have done/are doing with cross-platform play (CS:GO, Portal 2) and what Microsoft did wrong (shadowrun) definitely has something going, the draw that if done correctly cross-platform games that don't compromise the quality of one system's possible experience in favour of the other are definitely the way forward as everyone should be allowed their weapon of choice and not subjected to only gamers on a certain platform. I mean controls on your PS360s are so similar anyhow that developers should really pave the way for MS and Sony to both allow for cross-platform online play between both systems and pc.

If a mac and pc player can play the same game together, why can't console gamers pretty much?

And going back to that other topic, I'm skeptical about the Vita, Sony's retarded gates to admission in terms of a memory card and games...you should choke on a thousand chodes for that Sony :/
Hassaan Anis's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:07
Hassaan Anis
Oh you're not on board? Good. That's perfectly fine by us, cause Facebook game makers have no place in the core game market. Inter-platform uniformity is currently ruining PC gaming, and will only make things worse for all platforms in the long run when it comes to big budget core games. You have no voice in the community you did nothing to create, Mr. Olifiers. The likes of you are profiteering hacks peddling simple, mind numbing crack to unsuspecting housewives and children.
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:17
liddokun
@quantumriian 4x4 Evolution, 4x4 Evolution 2 also Star Wars Battlefield, Quake 3 based stuff and Rock band 3 if you consider Windows - Mac as cross platform.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:24
Chris Carter
RUN, HENRIQUE. RUN, AND NEVER RETURN.
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:25
tekbunny
@waka

Do we agree on something? Is... is the end of the world nigh?
HappyDayWarrior's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:25
HappyDayWarrior
Well, fuck. Guess I'll cancel my pre-order.
quantumriian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:36
quantumriian
Windows-mac isn't any more cross platform than the previous examples I give.

In any case its interesting that iOS, android and Facebook have basically zero games that are completely cross platform, the mobile (as in phones and tablets) market basically resembles a clusterfuck free for all version of the console market with devs mostly supporting one or a couple platforms and the rest get the left overs and second hand stuff. But that's a larger discussion.

By the way, have we properly distinguished between mobile and handheld markets? Just making sure we have our terminology correct: mobile games are on iOS and android while handheld games are on 3ds and vita, right?
BrainWasherAttendent's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:37
BrainWasherAttendent
I hate assfaces like this with a passion. What a cunt.
omicron1's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:37
omicron1
Me? I think that OnLive may have just signed the Vita's death warrant.

Uncharted: Golden Abyss is pretty, but I have Just Cause 2 on my smartphone. The graphics arms race has been won. End of story. And no matter how many games Sony can pump out, they're up against a library of thousands of excellent titles, plus several hundred PC and console hits. Even Nintendo should be watching this one.
Ffordesoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:38
Ffordesoon
PS Vita will sell spectacularly well. The games are there, and people are willing to pay $250 for a handheld, as the 3DS pre-price drop shows. And before you say the 3DS didn't sell well, consider the fact that it had basically no games and still moved half a million units at launch. People bought it on the assumption that games were coming, and sales were brisk. The Vita has the games.

That being said, the guy is correct that open standards and porous borders between consoles should be embraced. But then again, he's just parroting Valve on the matter, so go ahead and heap scorn on the man.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:45
DinnertimeNinja
I think Sony should partner with Steam for the PS4 and have out-the-gate full Steam integration and cross-platform play.

Basically, everything put out on the PS4 should have a link to Steam.

Console war OVER.
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:50
liddokun
@quantumriian but the first 4x4 Evolution was awesome... Windows, Mac, PS2 and Dreamcast together!
Recently you get Dungeon Defense. Xbox 360 is excluded due to Microsoft being Microsoft but the good platforms can (will, as I got it the Ps3 is still waiting for a patch) play together, so Windows, Android, iOS and soon (?) PS3.
Alinos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:52
Alinos
So does this mean that Bossa Studio's isn't making games at all then.

They have just said they won't make games for any platform that isn't cross compatible with another.

Though the biggest hurdle to cross compatibility in my mind is Xbox Live, So long as they are charging a subscription to play games online. They need to ensure that no one is getting to play the same games free.

At least you know if your host of a P2P game you are supporting a bunch of other Xbox Live subscriber's and not a bunch of free PSN/PC players.

Or vice verca why are you paying for a sub if all the heavy lifting is being done by those free PSN/PC players
apocacrux's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 22:58
apocacrux
I like the picture. That is all.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:02
Excel-2011
What an authentic headline
Sir Unimaginative's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:12
Sir Unimaginative
It's not the PS3's fault that the 360 walled up its own garden and that PC versions usually take mods. And I wouldn't give up mods for cross-compatibility.

He can quit his bitchin'.
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:14
liddokun
@omicron1, Onlive won't do a single dent to the portable consoles market. The world is kinda hugely bigger than the US.
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:17
Red TheHaze Veron
Publicity grab. Its always a quick and cheap way to grab attention by bashing the latest thing (which is the Vita). Its always the no-named people trying to stir shit up to raise awareness for whatever crap they're peddling.
ootmians's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:25
ootmians
Um, okay. So Facebook is not a walled garden? He makes a good point or two, but my overall impression is... LOL.
nasic870's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:29
nasic870
Definitely a publicity grab. This reminds me when those no-named morons from a subdivision of THQ that made Spongebob Squarepants games called the Vita's launch a train wreck. Of course I haven't heard anything from them about the launch lineup after the first party titles were revealed.
Ronin4life's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:30
Ronin4life
@Wqerty
No. Where have you been?
CaptainHowdy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:33
CaptainHowdy
Lol at Fugly Duckling.
Basstomouth's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:39
Basstomouth
Sony being proprietary is shit. Vita ftl. It will get buried in a pile of unsold $120 memory cards.

Also note that Yoshifusa left Sony. Notice a pattern? Things are falling apart in Sony land with their corporate interests getting in the way of game development.
Alinos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/13/2011 23:42
Alinos
@omicron1

My current phone provider gives me 2Gb of download's a month through their tower's.

Onlive is going to chew through that so fast it wouldn't be funny.

Not to mention that i would have to carry around a controller attachment to ever play the game properly.

And then there is the fact that you are scaling games down to screen size's they simply weren't made for.

A PSV or 3DS or IOS games are made with the small screen size in mind
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