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That's too bad since the launch lineup of the PSVita is greater than that of the 3DS.
Then again, there are simply quite a bunch awesome 3DS games right now that can steal PSVita's spotlight.
Then again, there are simply quite a bunch awesome 3DS games right now that can steal PSVita's spotlight.
People doomed the 3DS because they were just jelly it stomped the PSP this generation.
It has tons of issues (the eShop was abysmally shitty for a long time), but I never doubted that once the holidays hit, and an actual Nintendo game came out for it, that it would sell like hotcakes.
It has tons of issues (the eShop was abysmally shitty for a long time), but I never doubted that once the holidays hit, and an actual Nintendo game came out for it, that it would sell like hotcakes.
"Not a single PS Vita game made it into the top ten software chart."
Actually, not a single Vita game made it into the Top 20.
Actually, not a single Vita game made it into the Top 20.
They're doing the same thing they did with the PSP.
Get it out there and be content to let it simmer sales-wise.
Not sure if it's a sound strategy nowadays, but not quite doomed just yet.
Get it out there and be content to let it simmer sales-wise.
Not sure if it's a sound strategy nowadays, but not quite doomed just yet.
"Not a very pleasant start for the system at all. But hey, there's always a chance of dropping the price six months from now. That works pretty well!"
Yep, that's pretty much what I'm waiting for.
Yep, that's pretty much what I'm waiting for.
Magnalon: I've always said the 3DS launched too early, that the 3DS was a risk, and that Nintendo fumbled when it pissed off its shareholders. I still stand by that totally.
But not me, nor anyone else I can think of, said it was doomed. I think that was fanboys themselves applying hyperbole to the criticisms they saw, and then retroactively using that hyperbole to act smug.
But not me, nor anyone else I can think of, said it was doomed. I think that was fanboys themselves applying hyperbole to the criticisms they saw, and then retroactively using that hyperbole to act smug.
Considering how popular the PSP still is in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if the Vita pulls a PS3 and has its sales hamstrung by a predecessor that is both cheaper and has a better library of software.
funny about the software sales, hell the vita has more stuff I want to play at launch then my 3ds altogether.
Apparently a vita game didn't even make it to the top 20 software sales according to joystiq. Doesn't
matter though, no portable does well in japan until monster hunter shows up. That will wrangle them up.
matter though, no portable does well in japan until monster hunter shows up. That will wrangle them up.
@Jim
"I've always said the 3DS launched too early, that the 3DS was a risk, and that Nintendo fumbled when it pissed off its shareholders. I still stand by that totally."
Oh I agree with you. I've always had the same stance as you - it can be great, but Nintendo's ancient business models are preventing it from being as great as it possibly can be.
The software sells itself - parents see "Mario", and go apeshit. That won't change for a long time.
@Tim
Sony could still make money if the system was free, by selling $100 forced proprietary memory cards that cost them pennies to make, and selling digital content that fills up your card.
"I've always said the 3DS launched too early, that the 3DS was a risk, and that Nintendo fumbled when it pissed off its shareholders. I still stand by that totally."
Oh I agree with you. I've always had the same stance as you - it can be great, but Nintendo's ancient business models are preventing it from being as great as it possibly can be.
The software sells itself - parents see "Mario", and go apeshit. That won't change for a long time.
@Tim
Sony could still make money if the system was free, by selling $100 forced proprietary memory cards that cost them pennies to make, and selling digital content that fills up your card.
probably not enough games that please japanese gamers. It needs an RPG of some sort. For us western gamers, Uncharted and Unit 13 (at least to me) are must buys for launch titles. 250 isn't a bad price but 3DS dropped its price and its got games now so it'll be tough for vita.
Well considering the console sold less than 500k units, it would be pretty rare that one game sold over 100k units which would mean like 20% of the whole market.
Magnalon: Nintendo's amazing like that. It does things that would probably be the death of other companies, yet it exists in a weird anachronistic bubble where it can get away with that stuff. The 3DS could have ruined anybody else, but Nintendo was able to succeed at the eleventh hour with it. Crazy fucking company, and highly unpredictable.
That's specifically why I *don't* say things like "Nintendo is doomed." When it's Nintendo, I don't think you can ever make a definitive prediction.
That's specifically why I *don't* say things like "Nintendo is doomed." When it's Nintendo, I don't think you can ever make a definitive prediction.
@SebasGR
Both Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land are million sellers in Japan now. And the system is at 4 millions.
That's 20% of the market... for each one.
Both Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land are million sellers in Japan now. And the system is at 4 millions.
That's 20% of the market... for each one.
I'm honestly going to say that the Vita is hurting because of a couple things.
1) The 3DS beat it out to market and it dropped it price by a significant amount. If the 3DS was still at the cost it started at the Vita would be wiping the floor with it.
2) Buyers fatigue. Vita should have launched at the beginning of October at the latest. By the time they got it out the 3DS got some games released and all of the other sales of the holiday season probably diminished the impact of the Vita launch to only those who really wanted it badly.
1) The 3DS beat it out to market and it dropped it price by a significant amount. If the 3DS was still at the cost it started at the Vita would be wiping the floor with it.
2) Buyers fatigue. Vita should have launched at the beginning of October at the latest. By the time they got it out the 3DS got some games released and all of the other sales of the holiday season probably diminished the impact of the Vita launch to only those who really wanted it badly.
Jim: I don't think anyone at DToid ever did say the 3DS was doomed but it's a phrase I've seen used in many comment threads by people who were hoping it would fail, again; I don't remember if any were DToid comment threads, I definitely saw it on Eurogamer and probably in the GameTrailers forums but that's to be expected of them...
Have to agree with "wutang4ever". This is Japanese sales figures. Unless there is some sort of androgynous filled, watered down cloned JRPG in there with blue haircuts, a JRock FMV intro and skit with way too much text dialogue about a party member being "silly" etc they won't be supporting it 100%.
Also Monster Hunter for this hasn't been released, right? When they release that, suddenly the Japanese sales figures will spike, everyone knows that by now.
Also Monster Hunter for this hasn't been released, right? When they release that, suddenly the Japanese sales figures will spike, everyone knows that by now.
Eh, I wasn't impressed with the Vita launch lineup
Then again, I wasn't impressed with the 3DS either. or the DS when it launched. I like to give handhelds some time to drop in price and build a decent library.
OH. On an unrelated note, I think Stealth is Jim Sterling's alter-ego in a fight-club sort of twist.
Then again, I wasn't impressed with the 3DS either. or the DS when it launched. I like to give handhelds some time to drop in price and build a decent library.
OH. On an unrelated note, I think Stealth is Jim Sterling's alter-ego in a fight-club sort of twist.
@ZeniGeva
Monster Hunter Tri G (expansion of MH3) was released for the 3DS three weeks ago. And Monster Hunter 4 (new mainline) was announced for the 3DS some months ago.
Monster Hunter Tri G (expansion of MH3) was released for the 3DS three weeks ago. And Monster Hunter 4 (new mainline) was announced for the 3DS some months ago.
I think Nintendo screwed them over big time by releasing so many good games around the time of the PSVita launch.
The memory card prices don't help at all, you can get a 3DS with a few great games for the price of just a Vita and memory...
I'm still super excited for the Vita though, I'll be buying it on day one and even selling my 3DS for it. (I'll buy another one when they come out with some new colors)
The memory card prices don't help at all, you can get a 3DS with a few great games for the price of just a Vita and memory...
I'm still super excited for the Vita though, I'll be buying it on day one and even selling my 3DS for it. (I'll buy another one when they come out with some new colors)
Nah, couldn't be because Vita has less internal memory than a smartphone or the 3DS and it's best extra storage option is 16 and 32 GB cards that cost twice thier SD counterparts do.
Not at all!
Not at all!
"there's always a chance of dropping the price six months from now. That works pretty well!"
I'm counting on it.
I'm counting on it.
I'm loving all the "Sony is DOOMED" comments going around right now. Nintendo fans have had to endure "3DS is DOOMED" and "Nintendo is DOOMED" and "Nintendo needs to go third-party" for far too long now, and it's nice to see the tables turned.
In your faces, Nintendo haters.
In your faces, Nintendo haters.
@Fernando Rocker
Your right! See, I guess this is why 3DS is popular right now, it's got a head start + better price...however of course if it were me (the Japanese gamers are probably the same), of course hearing a MH coming out on the VITA would be awesome because of the graphical capabilities over the 3DS (Their game cards are bigger capacities, right?)
However like a previous poster said I have buyer's fatigue and honestly don't know how I will come up with cash for this handheld in February...so I'm unfortunately part of the "Wait until it drops" or "more software" comes out crowd.
Your right! See, I guess this is why 3DS is popular right now, it's got a head start + better price...however of course if it were me (the Japanese gamers are probably the same), of course hearing a MH coming out on the VITA would be awesome because of the graphical capabilities over the 3DS (Their game cards are bigger capacities, right?)
However like a previous poster said I have buyer's fatigue and honestly don't know how I will come up with cash for this handheld in February...so I'm unfortunately part of the "Wait until it drops" or "more software" comes out crowd.
ZeniGeva
The game cards capacities are the same. Some 3DS games are using 4GB cards (like Resident Evil: Revelations) but they can be expanded to 16GB if I recall correctly.
The game cards capacities are the same. Some 3DS games are using 4GB cards (like Resident Evil: Revelations) but they can be expanded to 16GB if I recall correctly.
Fernando Rocker
This part always confused me as I thought SONY were going to expanding the tech-side on the game card capacity end too. In saying that its amazing what they are pushing out graphically with these cards. Especially Resident Evil Revelations which I am excited for (The RAID mode looked fun!).
This part always confused me as I thought SONY were going to expanding the tech-side on the game card capacity end too. In saying that its amazing what they are pushing out graphically with these cards. Especially Resident Evil Revelations which I am excited for (The RAID mode looked fun!).
The only people who would buy this thing at launch are people who are desperate for the latest shiny gadget and will overpay for it. If the last few console launches have taught us anything, you *know* within the next few months it will at least drop in price, if not get a new model also. (New 3DS with built-in second thumbstick should be announced any day now.)
I have always said that the Herrro and wrrrelcome bowin heads bit doesn't work for their business. OOOooo Hari Kari.
Are you more likely to see a kid playing on a portable in public or an adult? Nintendo has a huge young market (casuals too) and the young market has more time to play video games. The Vita is the harder sell. Even with all its functionality.
Needs moar Monster Hunter.
All the Vita needs for it to succeed in NA is a Call of Duty game that comes close to the home console's CoD experience. Once kids see someone with a Vita at school playing CoD they'll be begging their parents for a vita for next years holiday season. Get ready to see lots of kids trash talking in public.
All the Vita needs for it to succeed in NA is a Call of Duty game that comes close to the home console's CoD experience. Once kids see someone with a Vita at school playing CoD they'll be begging their parents for a vita for next years holiday season. Get ready to see lots of kids trash talking in public.
@doomknight66
"I think it's just they know this industry far more then anyone else does"
Yep. Nintendo knows that no matter what it does (wrong), people will still buy its shit because it's fucking Nintendo; why change?
And that's this industry for you.
"I think it's just they know this industry far more then anyone else does"
Yep. Nintendo knows that no matter what it does (wrong), people will still buy its shit because it's fucking Nintendo; why change?
And that's this industry for you.
For me, handhelds were always more about unique experiences, not portability. PSP's biggest problem was that it's name summed up exactly what it was, a Portable PlayStation. Games like Resistance and Uncharted look great on PSV (and undoubtedly Syphon Filter is coming) but just like the Syphon Filter games, God of War, Twisted Metal, MGS etc. these PSV exclusives will end up on PS3 after a year or so. They're basically holding the games hostage on PSV when, given the choice, most people would rather play them on their PS3.
I seem to remember an HD port of Final Fantasy X being announced for both systems so maybe they'll move more in that direction. What they need to do is sell PS3 copies that allow the PSV version to be transferred. That might actually get me to consider buying one.
I seem to remember an HD port of Final Fantasy X being announced for both systems so maybe they'll move more in that direction. What they need to do is sell PS3 copies that allow the PSV version to be transferred. That might actually get me to consider buying one.
@Pop-Tart Cat
That is not true.
What systems do you think kids really want COD for? PC, PS3, 360. Thats it. You would be lucky if any portable COD sold well
That is not true.
What systems do you think kids really want COD for? PC, PS3, 360. Thats it. You would be lucky if any portable COD sold well
People thought the 3DS was doomed because of the weak launch line up, old ports, bad graphics, not enough features, didn't seem different or modern. I bought my 3DS at launch along with Pilotwings and SSFIV and was impressed with it from the start, then in the following months I started to hate it a little bit and considering changing it for the Vita or upgrading it. But now it wouldn't feel like an update and it feels like a completely different system, I spend more time with it and I respect it more lol. All the games I'm putting on it look great and current, the 3D screen just looks more impressive running Mario Kart with it's solid visuals flowing at 60fps in full 3D, I'm watching 3D movie trailers on it, little Watts Eurosports segments in 3D and sending and getting 3D drawings and pictures from a bunch of online friends all for free. I have cool 3D eShop games to download, I can record video, and I'm looking forward to awesome games just around the corner in 2012. Vita isn't doing anything wrong, just right now for the asking price 3DS is a better buy, it will pick up on sales eventually.
@Doom
Yep. They know that paying for research and development, and infrastructure costs for the eShop for six months before anything worthwhile hits it is a good way to spend your money.
Also, using the obtuse friend code system that no one likes is a great way to make sure people keep playing games online.
Nintendo will have their first paid DLC game in Fire Emblem, ever, next year. They also claim that the Wii-U will have a less obtuse online friend system. We'll see if they really "know the industry better" next year. As it stands, they know software better - but that's about it.
Yep. They know that paying for research and development, and infrastructure costs for the eShop for six months before anything worthwhile hits it is a good way to spend your money.
Also, using the obtuse friend code system that no one likes is a great way to make sure people keep playing games online.
Nintendo will have their first paid DLC game in Fire Emblem, ever, next year. They also claim that the Wii-U will have a less obtuse online friend system. We'll see if they really "know the industry better" next year. As it stands, they know software better - but that's about it.
@skullivan
That's what I'm afraid of. I bought my PSP mosty to play the God of Wars and they both ended up on PS3. The Vita just seems like it won't be worth it unless I'm away from my consoles for weeks at a time.
That's what I'm afraid of. I bought my PSP mosty to play the God of Wars and they both ended up on PS3. The Vita just seems like it won't be worth it unless I'm away from my consoles for weeks at a time.
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