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True, but at least the Vita has more than 3 good games to launch with and it's digital shop up and running day one.
I honestly don't think it needs to drop price but Sofik will be here soon to tell us what we should think about it so I'll wait til then...
I don't know if I'd like a price drop from this. If they cut out more shit, i'll probably just keep my psp.
@VoltySquirrel--do you know what games the Vita will launch with? I've not heard much about it, though I haven't been looking.
It would be nice to see a lower entry price on the vita, but that's a secondary concern. The main concern of the Vita ( and 3DS ) is a lack of software worth playing. If they can't manage that then the whole concept of each device and their price is moot.
This just demonstrates how overwhelming the levels of historical amnesia, and stupidity are in this conversation. Does anyone remember when they announced the price ... you know, a few months ago? Most people said it was the highlight of E3. Not the Vita, but just the price announcement was the highlight of E3.
Anyone pressuring Sony to lower the price is completely out of their mind. They just need to keep the cost of games low, and keep the games flowing. $250 is not what stopped anyone from getting a 3DS. People threw down $150 for Kinect, and it doesn't even do anything (no games!!!).
Anyone pressuring Sony to lower the price is completely out of their mind. They just need to keep the cost of games low, and keep the games flowing. $250 is not what stopped anyone from getting a 3DS. People threw down $150 for Kinect, and it doesn't even do anything (no games!!!).
If they want to cut something out, get rid of the 3G version. That shit is gay and defeats the purpose of Sony's free online system (theoretically speaking, of course.) Reduce that to the $189.99-199.99 range, and you got a competitior.
Just to add, people buy iPads for $800, but Vita is too much? It doesn't make any sense at all. When everyone was speculating on how much Vita would cost, the estimates were in the $300-$400 range nearly every time. EVERYONE was shocked at the $250 price point, and Sony's reaction to this line of questioning is spot on. It's totally ridiculous and should be dismissed outright.
Furthermore, they know what they're doing, because they've been here before. The PSP was expensive when it launched, and it's the first portable gaming system to survive the competition from the Gameboy line (even with the insanely successful DS). The PS3 was expensive, and it's about to overtake 360 globally.
Furthermore, they know what they're doing, because they've been here before. The PSP was expensive when it launched, and it's the first portable gaming system to survive the competition from the Gameboy line (even with the insanely successful DS). The PS3 was expensive, and it's about to overtake 360 globally.
This is capitalism. Competition means we, the consumers, win. I wouldn't say the Vita *needs* to cut its price right now, but it's completely reasonable to expect it to now that the DS has.
@Shinta:
The iPad market is entirely different from this one. That is a demographic that is entirely willing to pay that much. After what happened in the last five months with the portable games market, this is an expected development.
The iPad market is entirely different from this one. That is a demographic that is entirely willing to pay that much. After what happened in the last five months with the portable games market, this is an expected development.
$250 is perfectly reasonable considering the power of the hardware and amount of features.
I bet they're already losing money at that price. No way they're gonna go even lower.
I bet they're already losing money at that price. No way they're gonna go even lower.
$249.99 is already incredibly low for this device, based on my understanding on the technology in there. If it doesn't succeed, it will either be because the 3DS does something magical like its predecessor (looking increasingly unlikely), or the market for dedicated handheld platforms has truly evaporated. That would be very sad, indeed.
@quantumcatphd
Of the confirmed launch titles, the good ones are ModNation Racers, LittleBigPlanet, Virtua Tennis 4, a new Hot Shots game, Wipeout 2048, and Uncharted: Golden Abyss. There is also a good set of titles coming out near launch.
Of the confirmed launch titles, the good ones are ModNation Racers, LittleBigPlanet, Virtua Tennis 4, a new Hot Shots game, Wipeout 2048, and Uncharted: Golden Abyss. There is also a good set of titles coming out near launch.
I still think 39.99 is too expensive for 3DS games. MSRP should be 29.99 on both platforms. At least the Vita will play my PSN purchases, it's disgusting that my Wii VC purchases won't play on my 3DS
I don't mind the price of the PSVita, but I still think they're gonna need to lower the price of their games.
My iPhone also has Infinity Blade, Groove Coaster, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, Pix'N Love Rush, and Deathsmiles, to name a few.
I haven't touched my 3DS since Zelda, and my PSP has had way longer dry spells even AFTER being hacked.
I don't see Nintendo or Sony putting out another generation of portables after this one unless they go balls deep into the cell phone biz and can keep up with the heavy hitters. Sony might try, but Nintendo's too fucking stubborn and slow in the technology department.
I haven't touched my 3DS since Zelda, and my PSP has had way longer dry spells even AFTER being hacked.
I don't see Nintendo or Sony putting out another generation of portables after this one unless they go balls deep into the cell phone biz and can keep up with the heavy hitters. Sony might try, but Nintendo's too fucking stubborn and slow in the technology department.
Are people seriously arguing to keep the price higher? I forgot that Sony is run by orphans and they can't feed their hungry dog because they are so poor...
I'll buy a PSV at $250, gladly. But if they cave and drop the price, I'll buy one cheaper just as gladly. I'm pretty whatever about this.
Well, unless it drops all the way to $50 i'm not buying one anyways. Handhelds are too expensive if you ask me. They cost the same as brand new consoles, which have huge libraries of games and massive online communities. I would love to see a handheld that doesn't try to compete with that. I don't care about hd graphics or 3D on a 4" screen... i would rather have 32 bit sidescrollers and platformers that were fun but cheap.
If this isn't an instant massive success I'm going to be a giant troll. Nothing against Sony, I just get tired of the near daily 3DS bashing. (not referring to anyone in particular)
If this isn't an instant massive success I'm going to be a giant troll. Nothing against Sony, I just get tired of the near daily 3DS bashing. (not referring to anyone in particular)
Damn, the Vita isn't even released and a price cut is being called for. The 3DS sucks and the number of sales proved it. Who wants a crosseyed headache from playing rehashed games of yesteryear anyhow?
All game platforms will come down in price eventually, the companies initially want to recoup as much as the development costs as possible before those price drops.
We need SONY to succeed to drive the industry onward to the future. They are the High Def console Benchmark that Microsoft tries to emulate.
All game platforms will come down in price eventually, the companies initially want to recoup as much as the development costs as possible before those price drops.
We need SONY to succeed to drive the industry onward to the future. They are the High Def console Benchmark that Microsoft tries to emulate.
I doubt the price point will make people avoid buying the PSV if they launch it with plenty of quality games. What was killing the 3DS, as pointed before, was the lack of games, not its price. Also, because one japanese guy said it would wait, it does not mean everyone is going to. Or all the people who pre-ordered it is cancelling it now?
@Epic-Kx
Not everyone has easy or constant access to wi-fi, you know. How would it benefit anyone by getting rid of the completely optional 3G version that I and I'm sure other people are looking forward to?
Not everyone has easy or constant access to wi-fi, you know. How would it benefit anyone by getting rid of the completely optional 3G version that I and I'm sure other people are looking forward to?
Analysts before E3 – That thing can’t cost more than 300 or it will fail!
Analysts two months later – that thing must be less than 250 or it will fail!
Analysts: they’re just making this shit up as they go.
Analysts two months later – that thing must be less than 250 or it will fail!
Analysts: they’re just making this shit up as they go.
Vita at $250 is OK, I wouldn't rush out to buy one at that price. Games had better be reasonable though, I'm not paying $40 for a handheld title no matter how epic.
Who could say no to a lower price point?:P sony doesn't really need to lower it though. In peoples minds the vita is the high end prostitute without aids while the 3ds seems like the cheap whore who you wouldn't even pay 50 cents for. :P
$250 is a fine price for what your getting with osv is a fine price.
€250 on the other other hand is a kick to the nuts of us europeans. thats over $350 they expect euopeans to pay.
€250 on the other other hand is a kick to the nuts of us europeans. thats over $350 they expect euopeans to pay.
People are forgetting something important here,
The existence of the 299 $ 3G/WIFI PS Vita.
Now I know that many people might find it a bad idea to have extra wireless plans -especially in the US with AT&T-.
But, many users wouldn't mind paying monthly for the device + the plan -in Japan, data plans across wireless carriers are still unlimited-. Since the device will have a longer life-span in general, I think its a not-bad deal -unlike the iPhone and iPad which gets an update every year-.
We'll see which carrier and what plans will Japan get at TGS2011.
The existence of the 299 $ 3G/WIFI PS Vita.
Now I know that many people might find it a bad idea to have extra wireless plans -especially in the US with AT&T-.
But, many users wouldn't mind paying monthly for the device + the plan -in Japan, data plans across wireless carriers are still unlimited-. Since the device will have a longer life-span in general, I think its a not-bad deal -unlike the iPhone and iPad which gets an update every year-.
We'll see which carrier and what plans will Japan get at TGS2011.
@Judas
My Sony fanboi sensors have gone into the red. Oh, sorry, I believe that sensor is the bullshit sensor. I get them mixed up too much these days.
My Sony fanboi sensors have gone into the red. Oh, sorry, I believe that sensor is the bullshit sensor. I get them mixed up too much these days.
The 3DS failure totally affected the vita negatively. The 3DS has now poised the question of a portable being capable of succeeding at a $250 price tag.
Sony would be wise to lower the price another $50 or suffer a similar, though probably far less severe, fate to Nintendo.
Sony would be wise to lower the price another $50 or suffer a similar, though probably far less severe, fate to Nintendo.
I'd rather spend twice on an iPad 2 or 3 or whatever, and do half the gaming. Much more appealing to me... I mean comon, the Vita doesn't even have a calendar app, contacts, or weather! We all need weather!
I think it's OK for the psv to be $250 imo. I would be happy for it to be cheaper but not at the price of stripping tech.
It's £230 here in the UK, it is a little steep given that it's more expensive than a 360 and almost as high as a PS3, but if they launch with a few tasty enough looking games, I'll still be buying, they just have to make it worth the price - that's where Nintendo fucked up. The 3DS wasn't worth the money, and still isn't all these months later.
The TGS Keynote regarding the Vita will be the dealbreaker for launch purchases, they need to unveil a full launch lineup as well as release dates and make it too good to resist.
The TGS Keynote regarding the Vita will be the dealbreaker for launch purchases, they need to unveil a full launch lineup as well as release dates and make it too good to resist.
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