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Point taken. I have the 3g preordered, I'm going to change it to the wifi and if anything, ill wait for the 4g model if I decide I can't live without the online component.
Just because you fail to see value in the 3G version doesn't mean it's a sign of stupidity for those who do. Just saying.
Jim, the first 500,000 PS Vita (3G and Wifi) models in Japan come bundled with SIM cards preloaded with 100 hours of 3G access.
Also, (just like your last article stated) the digital versions of PS Vita games will be large in size and cost slightly less than the retail versions.
Those would be the two main factors in getting the premium versions of the Vita and the memory card.
Also, (just like your last article stated) the digital versions of PS Vita games will be large in size and cost slightly less than the retail versions.
Those would be the two main factors in getting the premium versions of the Vita and the memory card.
For anyone interested on "Near" (like me), 3G is the best option
cause it has the GPS built in with the 3g chipset.
I'm not gonna use the 3G or buy data plan, but it's nice to have it in case I need it in the future.
cause it has the GPS built in with the 3g chipset.
I'm not gonna use the 3G or buy data plan, but it's nice to have it in case I need it in the future.
Weird..but I guess there must be more that a few people attracted to the Vita for it's social networking abilities.
@jim
What the fuck is that header Image from. I'm getting flashbacks to my childhood, and this scares me.
What the fuck is that header Image from. I'm getting flashbacks to my childhood, and this scares me.
The kind of games Japanese play multiplayer are stuff like Monster Hunter. 3G should be OK for that sort of thing. It would let them play with their mates when on the train (and all the other places where they use they're used to having connectivity on their phones), not just when they've physically got together.
I'm waiting to see how much the Data plans cost,and if it that cost can be tacked on to my 3G iPad Data plan for less.
If it costs too much I'll get the Wifi.
If it costs too much I'll get the Wifi.
Wifi for me!! But jim I thought you'd be the last person to say another person is stupid for having a different opinion. :(
I'm certain 3g in japan is a whole different ball game to 3g in the west.
Even 3g in the west is pretty good these days.
You'll eat your words when the 3g model allows us round eyes to play cod online on the bus.
I mean, I'll just tether my phone, but some people will eat their words.
Even 3g in the west is pretty good these days.
You'll eat your words when the 3g model allows us round eyes to play cod online on the bus.
I mean, I'll just tether my phone, but some people will eat their words.
We do think that 3G is pointless since its AT&T over here in the US. Free WiFi probably isn't that prevalent in Japan perhaps? Or are the Japanese just used to mobile phones with mobile internet at the ready?
Why buy the 3G model with monthly fees if you can just download everything at home or via wi-fi hotspots? I don't see the point at all.
I game fine on my iphone using 3G when I am on the go. I also use handheld gaming more when i am not around wifi. Usually if I am near a wifi hub then I am at my house and will use a real game console at that point.
There is your reason, Destructoid journalism crew.
There is your reason, Destructoid journalism crew.
@Xeon
I think it's from Play Days or Play Bus. It was an old kids show on CBBC. That's Why Bird. They used to go to all of these different stops, and there was a different theme for each - Why's was questions and answers, there was a circus stop too, but that's about all I remember from my fuzzy memories of childhood.
I think it's from Play Days or Play Bus. It was an old kids show on CBBC. That's Why Bird. They used to go to all of these different stops, and there was a different theme for each - Why's was questions and answers, there was a circus stop too, but that's about all I remember from my fuzzy memories of childhood.
Unlock the thing. How hard is it?
Also, it's been said, but 3G is a complete joke in North America, unlike the rest of the world.
Also, it's been said, but 3G is a complete joke in North America, unlike the rest of the world.
because it has teh three geees.
People at large are not exactly intelligent you charge them ~$50 extra for a feature they don't need, probably won't used and certainly don't understand.... and they will likely jump a the pricier model because its new and shiny with all dem bells and dat whistle.
Especially parents they are notoriously under informed and seldom attempt to research anything before they buy dat new game thing with all dem bells and whistles for little billy.
I'm not going to be surprised if there is some general buyers remorse over spending extra on the 3G.
People at large are not exactly intelligent you charge them ~$50 extra for a feature they don't need, probably won't used and certainly don't understand.... and they will likely jump a the pricier model because its new and shiny with all dem bells and dat whistle.
Especially parents they are notoriously under informed and seldom attempt to research anything before they buy dat new game thing with all dem bells and whistles for little billy.
I'm not going to be surprised if there is some general buyers remorse over spending extra on the 3G.
I'm more then 99 percent sure that its been said you won't be able to play games over 3G and I'm sure as hell no gonna pay for a memory card that expensive, wait for a price cut or a less expensive card.
I'm still debating whether or not to get the Vita at launch. I still need a ps3, and I'm not sure how long that will be a relevant, current system. I don't want to buy it then have Sony announce the ps4. I'll be pissed.
Well. 3G is in a much better state in Japan then in NA right? It would make sense then.
I don't see this situations being the case in North America. I imagaine most preorders are for the Wifi model.
I don't see this situations being the case in North America. I imagaine most preorders are for the Wifi model.
@Scuffles
When I bought iPad 3g, I didn't regret it...
If I were the only one who gonna use it, it would be a waste since I can use my phone as wifi hotspot.
But the thing is, my mother,father and my little sister are using it also. It's much easier for them to switch to 3G from the setting if wifi isn't available. I use a Prepaid (pay as you go) sim card for it. and that doesn't cost us much if we didn't use it either.
3g vita is the same, people want 3g for the social features and browsing on the go, not necessarily for gaming. but as I said earlier, I'm getting the 3G version because of the GPS.
For Near to work on the wifi version only, the location is determined with Skyhook services through the wifi hotspots you pass by, it can work will and can be more accurate than GPS if you are in area well covered with hotspots.
What if you are in area with rare wifi hotspots(like me)? then GPS (and sometimes with the help of Cell tower triangulation can increase the accuracy in urban areas) is required to enjoy Near.
When I bought iPad 3g, I didn't regret it...
If I were the only one who gonna use it, it would be a waste since I can use my phone as wifi hotspot.
But the thing is, my mother,father and my little sister are using it also. It's much easier for them to switch to 3G from the setting if wifi isn't available. I use a Prepaid (pay as you go) sim card for it. and that doesn't cost us much if we didn't use it either.
3g vita is the same, people want 3g for the social features and browsing on the go, not necessarily for gaming. but as I said earlier, I'm getting the 3G version because of the GPS.
For Near to work on the wifi version only, the location is determined with Skyhook services through the wifi hotspots you pass by, it can work will and can be more accurate than GPS if you are in area well covered with hotspots.
What if you are in area with rare wifi hotspots(like me)? then GPS (and sometimes with the help of Cell tower triangulation can increase the accuracy in urban areas) is required to enjoy Near.
Do you really think that just because the 3G model is not very useful people is stupid
Man you really sound American to me
Man you really sound American to me
3G = Monster Hunter everywhere = Must have. Thats all the incentive JP gamers need really...
Also, 3g networks in japan and internet in general, is more reliable in jp than in the states.
Also, 3g networks in japan and internet in general, is more reliable in jp than in the states.
I like how people are assuming those buying the 3G model are stupid.
I put it to you, that those naysaying the 3g version are the stupid ones.
3g in the UK at least gives you nearly 2mb/s around here. I've played games online using less than 2mb/s. - we're all very scared and apparently confused about the "20bm download limit" and have assumed that means "once you've used 20mb it's gone" and further to that assumption have assumed that it will be no good for online gaming..
What if: the 20bm limit is on download size only, ie games bigger than 20mb have to be downloaded at home, but can then be played, online, on 3g wherever there is signal?
While your smuggly telling people they're stupid for buying a 3g version "that they don't understand" - they're sitting on the bus playing uncharted multiplayer, while you're stuck with single player because "you didn't understand" the 3g version and the ability of the 3g.
I find 3g internet rather useful and actually quite impressive. If it works as well on the PSVita as it does on my Samsung Galaxy S2, I'd like to think online gaming over it is perfectly doable.
I cross my fingers, not that it's usable for online gaming, no, because to me that doesn't matter, i just cross my fingers that some of you guys get blown the fuck out of the water when it drops and you WISH you "understood" the 3g version.
Moral of the story: Chill yo fucking beans till the thing is out, and can be tried out to find the actual limitations.
I put it to you, that those naysaying the 3g version are the stupid ones.
3g in the UK at least gives you nearly 2mb/s around here. I've played games online using less than 2mb/s. - we're all very scared and apparently confused about the "20bm download limit" and have assumed that means "once you've used 20mb it's gone" and further to that assumption have assumed that it will be no good for online gaming..
What if: the 20bm limit is on download size only, ie games bigger than 20mb have to be downloaded at home, but can then be played, online, on 3g wherever there is signal?
While your smuggly telling people they're stupid for buying a 3g version "that they don't understand" - they're sitting on the bus playing uncharted multiplayer, while you're stuck with single player because "you didn't understand" the 3g version and the ability of the 3g.
I find 3g internet rather useful and actually quite impressive. If it works as well on the PSVita as it does on my Samsung Galaxy S2, I'd like to think online gaming over it is perfectly doable.
I cross my fingers, not that it's usable for online gaming, no, because to me that doesn't matter, i just cross my fingers that some of you guys get blown the fuck out of the water when it drops and you WISH you "understood" the 3g version.
Moral of the story: Chill yo fucking beans till the thing is out, and can be tried out to find the actual limitations.
And this is why bastards are born: Instant gratification waylaying logic! Even if you want desperately want a 3G machine why not hold onto your moneys and make Sony upgrade the carrier options and battery life or where you unaware that data usage swallows your power like a proud whore?
I'll be getting the wifi only, but I guess I could understand people still getting the 3G for a lot of the things they like to do. If you WERE going to use them it might make sense to get a 3G version. Since I will use mine mostly for playing single-player games, I don't see too much point for me.
i'll get the 3G model if I have the cash for it, I mean you don't want to lose out on the possibilities that online gameplay could be great, and that it will work seemlessly over a 3G network. I think that's what people in Japan are wanting, I mean taking the train is good with a PSP, but you still need to find people to play monster hunter with. If you have the 3G enabled, you can always play with your friends. That sounds like a good reason to jump for the extra $50 I think. Obviously more people see the benefit in that than Jim does. (65% more people).
"What if: the 20bm limit is on download size only, ie games bigger than 20mb have to be downloaded at home, but can then be played, online, on 3g wherever there is signal?"
I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that this is exactly the case.
I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that this is exactly the case.
Wi-fi....but, I'm going to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "re-design" of the Vita. When it has an internal memory, like the original specks. I am not buying ANOTHER Sony memory card. No.
Jim, you have the weirdest choices for photos. That said, the Japanese DO have substantialy more money than anyone in the west (do you really need to call them Stupid?), even the U.S. Also, don't forget to consider that the first 500K units of the 3G Vita came with a special offer of 100 free 3G hours or so. Additionally, people in Japan don't use the 3G in their systems to download (they have the fastest WiFi in the world for that). They use 3G to play against each other and to communicate with other players.
I'm far from an expert but the Japanese do view and value things like this in far far different ways then we do. So its no surprise to me that the 3G model is the most sought after version there. And you know what? They'll probably make the most of it, where we won't.
Honestly, I'm half expecting a surprise when it comes closer to the release of the Vita in the west, and we hear that the 3G model is the more sought after version. And it won't be because we actually value the 3g. No, it'll be because we're a culture that gets told the more features we , even if we don't use them or see no value in any of them, is always better then to not have at all. People will get it just to have the option of 3g, even if they never bother to get a plan/time.
Personally, I'm going Wi-fi only. I don't have any need for a phone, let alone a device that acts like half of one. The money saved is going into a memory card, maybe a big 32gb one -but that's depending on how much focus there will be on saving things to that card. Seeing as how I might be trying to go all digital for this one, I'll probably need it.
Honestly, I'm half expecting a surprise when it comes closer to the release of the Vita in the west, and we hear that the 3G model is the more sought after version. And it won't be because we actually value the 3g. No, it'll be because we're a culture that gets told the more features we , even if we don't use them or see no value in any of them, is always better then to not have at all. People will get it just to have the option of 3g, even if they never bother to get a plan/time.
Personally, I'm going Wi-fi only. I don't have any need for a phone, let alone a device that acts like half of one. The money saved is going into a memory card, maybe a big 32gb one -but that's depending on how much focus there will be on saving things to that card. Seeing as how I might be trying to go all digital for this one, I'll probably need it.
3G service is significantly better in Japan than the US. I suspect most of these people will be playing a couple of hours a day on a daily commute that has no wi-fi but amazing 3g coverage. That simple.
On top of that, the crowd that PREORDERS a console is a special kind of money spender, and also one that would almost certainly have lots of PSP data/games to transfer to their new system, so that explains the memory cards too. Certainly nothing that would be wise for most consumers in the world but they have valid reasons.
On top of that, the crowd that PREORDERS a console is a special kind of money spender, and also one that would almost certainly have lots of PSP data/games to transfer to their new system, so that explains the memory cards too. Certainly nothing that would be wise for most consumers in the world but they have valid reasons.
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