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Zombies you say? To the front page with this post! ASAP!!
Also, zombie Orwell is blatantly better than zombie Hemingway.
Also, zombie Orwell is blatantly better than zombie Hemingway.
Fucking awesome. It's like Romero vs 28 Days zombies, but one gives you tools and survivability, the other simulates having jack shit. Day Z seems to have tons of inconsistencies and hurdles getting in the way of the already punishing premise. It'd be great of they kept that spirit, but let you control sensibly, play quickly, and keep detection consistent.
I wish every survival-based games took a cue from Minecraft. Hell, tons of games can benefit from its self-sufficient design. Just imagine the new Rambo game if it lets you scavenge and create a safe house in the woods, then search for materials to cover the place in traps. Then combine it with MGS3 infiltration and stealth take downs, and modern firefights for when shit goes down.
I wish every survival-based games took a cue from Minecraft. Hell, tons of games can benefit from its self-sufficient design. Just imagine the new Rambo game if it lets you scavenge and create a safe house in the woods, then search for materials to cover the place in traps. Then combine it with MGS3 infiltration and stealth take downs, and modern firefights for when shit goes down.
I don't play minecraft much as it would probably get me addicted again, and I tend to binge on that game when it hooks me in again, but this post sticks it to DayZ, so hence I have to approve.
"Minecraft on the other hand gives a giant middle finger to this philosophy by saying that if you want to survive you go out into the woods and punch a tree down with your bare hands in order to make a wooden sword."
That's what I'm talking about. That's entertaining, educative and most of all it feels fair.
Great blog Seph, let's frontpage it!
That's what I'm talking about. That's entertaining, educative and most of all it feels fair.
Great blog Seph, let's frontpage it!
No knock on seph but there's so many other blogs that have gone by without a front page promotion, but this gets one? Its not even that original.
Good stuff, I started playing Minecraft again yesterday, so this came at a good time.
Also, there is nothing scarier than running out of torches and weapons when you're waaaay below the surface.
Also, there is nothing scarier than running out of torches and weapons when you're waaaay below the surface.
Well as far as I know there is a Dayz like mod for minecraft called MineZ, never tried it myself but I heard good things about it, maybe that would make a good comparisons.
Two different games with two totally different goals and gameplay. Minecraft is about building and creating, DayZ about survival. Neither has brilliant combat but Minecraft is one of the worst offenders in combat, being that it's utter shit. This entire post almost gave me a headache. Next time compare Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto, you can drive in both games!
@Kyosuke
I have to agree, but the way I see it there's been a lot more fapping lately, and for that I like, if we could keep Cblog promotions more active it would probably help others realize there is a blog part of Dtoid and that people do write good stuff there.
For at the present all we really have is a tiny top bar tap and a tiny sidebar tap for us.
I have to agree, but the way I see it there's been a lot more fapping lately, and for that I like, if we could keep Cblog promotions more active it would probably help others realize there is a blog part of Dtoid and that people do write good stuff there.
For at the present all we really have is a tiny top bar tap and a tiny sidebar tap for us.
This is full of subjective stuff. I really don't like the "this is better than that" articles anyway, except when it's the fine Sterling sarcasm.
A point by point rebuttal of this. I like both games, but some of the points here are freaking stupid.
1) loading times. Yes, they're pretty bad in DayZ, but it's really not a big deal and feels like a worthless point.
2) MacGyver. All this shows is that you are bad at DayZ and that surviving in Minecraft is EASY. Surviving in Minecraft poses NO challenge. It's simple not comparable. Yes, you die a lot in DayZ, but if you watch people who are good at the game, you'll see it's not "pure luck". There WILL be snipers who will kill you, but you know what you do? You LOOK for them. You anticipate them. And if necessary, you flank them, or go somewhere else. Yes, it takes skill and perhaps a bit of luck, but it's definitely better than it being pathetically easy.
3) Zombies not giving up. You're doing it wrong. It's easy to lose zombies in DayZ. All you do is go through some bushes then prone, or go around some corners then prone, or go through a building. And also, the fact it takes a while to get set up in DayZ is part of what makes it so tense.
4) THIS is what makes DayZ more scary. The zombies are scary at night maybe, but the constant risk of getting sniped or shot is what makes the game truly tense and terrifying. That being said, there are precautions you can take to avoid this, which I doubt you did take - never stay still too long in the open, always crouch, be quiet, don't go on roofs often etcetera.
5) Controls. Again, I disagree. The inventory is like that for reason - so that getting things out of your backpack is actually a big deal. So that you have a reason to carefully consider what goes in your main inventory and what goes in your rucksack. You clearly just didn't take the time to learn DayZ's admittedly complex controls.
6) This point is silly because DayZ is already hard enough - if you want a challenge you can go try and raid a bandit camp or something. DayZ doesn't NEED to add other zones - there are already tonnes of possibilities for player interactions on the one map.
Overall, it just really sounds like you didn't put in the hours necessary to enjoy DayZ. Did you even get a vehicle? Did you feel the abject terror of collecting a vehicle, setting up a base and then hiding as a team of snipers and infantry invade your building and kill your friends?
I really doubt you did. DayZ is a hard game, but it has a lot of rewards. Minecraft is a very good and innovative game, but they're simply not comparable in my opinion. The survival part of Minecraft is far easier, and more of the game is focused on gathering resources to then build sweet things.
If you think DayZ is about the zombies, you're looking at it wrong. They're simply a tool there to create interesting player-to-player interactions.
I've played both games and I've NEVER thought of Minecraft and DayZ having the "same concept". I just think this is a really weird comparison to make, perhaps simply to generate controversy.
1) loading times. Yes, they're pretty bad in DayZ, but it's really not a big deal and feels like a worthless point.
2) MacGyver. All this shows is that you are bad at DayZ and that surviving in Minecraft is EASY. Surviving in Minecraft poses NO challenge. It's simple not comparable. Yes, you die a lot in DayZ, but if you watch people who are good at the game, you'll see it's not "pure luck". There WILL be snipers who will kill you, but you know what you do? You LOOK for them. You anticipate them. And if necessary, you flank them, or go somewhere else. Yes, it takes skill and perhaps a bit of luck, but it's definitely better than it being pathetically easy.
3) Zombies not giving up. You're doing it wrong. It's easy to lose zombies in DayZ. All you do is go through some bushes then prone, or go around some corners then prone, or go through a building. And also, the fact it takes a while to get set up in DayZ is part of what makes it so tense.
4) THIS is what makes DayZ more scary. The zombies are scary at night maybe, but the constant risk of getting sniped or shot is what makes the game truly tense and terrifying. That being said, there are precautions you can take to avoid this, which I doubt you did take - never stay still too long in the open, always crouch, be quiet, don't go on roofs often etcetera.
5) Controls. Again, I disagree. The inventory is like that for reason - so that getting things out of your backpack is actually a big deal. So that you have a reason to carefully consider what goes in your main inventory and what goes in your rucksack. You clearly just didn't take the time to learn DayZ's admittedly complex controls.
6) This point is silly because DayZ is already hard enough - if you want a challenge you can go try and raid a bandit camp or something. DayZ doesn't NEED to add other zones - there are already tonnes of possibilities for player interactions on the one map.
Overall, it just really sounds like you didn't put in the hours necessary to enjoy DayZ. Did you even get a vehicle? Did you feel the abject terror of collecting a vehicle, setting up a base and then hiding as a team of snipers and infantry invade your building and kill your friends?
I really doubt you did. DayZ is a hard game, but it has a lot of rewards. Minecraft is a very good and innovative game, but they're simply not comparable in my opinion. The survival part of Minecraft is far easier, and more of the game is focused on gathering resources to then build sweet things.
If you think DayZ is about the zombies, you're looking at it wrong. They're simply a tool there to create interesting player-to-player interactions.
I've played both games and I've NEVER thought of Minecraft and DayZ having the "same concept". I just think this is a really weird comparison to make, perhaps simply to generate controversy.
@Lycan XIII
It's called "Survival Mode" but it's not really about survival. Survival is easy in Minecraft. Most of the fun comes from building all your different things with materials you harvested and creating a nice place. The actual "Survival" part is really shallow in comparison to DayZ's.
It's called "Survival Mode" but it's not really about survival. Survival is easy in Minecraft. Most of the fun comes from building all your different things with materials you harvested and creating a nice place. The actual "Survival" part is really shallow in comparison to DayZ's.
You forget to mention that Minecraft is a $30 game where as Day Z is an alpha-build mod. Obviously it's going to have problems with load times.
Still, your points do make a lot of sense. Minecraft does seem like a far better zombie game. I've yet to try either, but I don't know how long I can last with such great descriptions like this.
Still, your points do make a lot of sense. Minecraft does seem like a far better zombie game. I've yet to try either, but I don't know how long I can last with such great descriptions like this.
The dark souls comparison makes no sense. The dungeons in that game are structured, the enemies are always in the same place everytime you go there. minecraft is just random and is also pathetically easy to survive in.
I thought this post was sarcasm at first but a lot of the comments seem to be taking it seriously, I'm not sure what to make of it.
I thought this post was sarcasm at first but a lot of the comments seem to be taking it seriously, I'm not sure what to make of it.
@Freakydemon
The main draw of Minecraft has always been survival in my case. It's just a different kind of survival, strategic on a grander scale than Day Z's more moment-to-moment stuff.
The main draw of Minecraft has always been survival in my case. It's just a different kind of survival, strategic on a grander scale than Day Z's more moment-to-moment stuff.
great blog. i mocked minecraft.. until i played it. now i cant stop. havent tried Dayz but hey if you've playe da survival zombie game, at this point, youve played them all. i got left for dead 1 and 2 for that or dead island.
Must be slow news day if Sephys blog been front paged ROLF
(people take things wayyyyyyyyyy to serious it seems from the comments)
(people take things wayyyyyyyyyy to serious it seems from the comments)
This honestly sounds like a troll blog, like no time was put into actually trying the game.
Also why does Minecraft have to laugh at a game? Don't they both fit under that niche category of "games publishers would have never funded." I know you are saying people are taking this too seriously, but you are kind of make bold statements.
Also why does Minecraft have to laugh at a game? Don't they both fit under that niche category of "games publishers would have never funded." I know you are saying people are taking this too seriously, but you are kind of make bold statements.
A lot of the problems you point out that Day Z has are largely because the game is an ALPHA. You are comparing an ALPHA to a fully released game that has been out for quite some time now.
Day Z laughs in Minecraft's "stupid face" in quite a few ways too.
Day Z laughs in Minecraft's "stupid face" in quite a few ways too.
"havent tried Dayz but hey if you've playe da survival zombie game, at this point, youve played them all"
Ignorance overload... DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!
Ignorance overload... DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!
Front page comments, ugh. This is trolling, that's trolling. Some of you shit hawks wouldn't know real trolling if it bit you on your pasty asses. Get some reading comprehension so you can understand tone and humorous intent. Or, maybe smash yourselves in the face with your keyboards before you post. Whatever works for you.
God damn promoted blogs tricking me into reading front page comments... fuck you, Dixon. When I snap and go to the mall and start mowing down teenagers with stupid haircuts and ironic shirts, it's going to be your fault...
God damn promoted blogs tricking me into reading front page comments... fuck you, Dixon. When I snap and go to the mall and start mowing down teenagers with stupid haircuts and ironic shirts, it's going to be your fault...
Oh ffs, the guy isn't serious. He has a sense of humor and decided to blog. This humor is whst destructoid is built on, this is why most of us come here --it to read about the whacky antics of the crew analyzing the giant penis of lucifer in Dantes Inferno, and to realize that [PROTOTYPE] is blatantly better than Infamous.
Awesome blog, glad its front page.
Awesome blog, glad its front page.
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