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Professor trolls City of Heroes in the name of science photo

Usually, people who troll online games are fourteen-year-old, curly haired little douchebags with no aim in life other than to make people miserable. At least Loyola University media professor David Myers has an excuse -- he was trolling City of Heroes and becoming one of the most unpopular players in the world, all in the name of social studies.

When Myers first played City of Heroes/Villains, he noticed that the heroes and villains were not strictly playing by the rules, instead peacefully co-existing with each other and often taking out computer-controlled opponents instead of opposing factions. He decided to change all that with Twixt, a rocketboot-powered teleporting superhero who would whisk player-controlled villains in front of a cartoon robot firing line for instant kills. He was not liked. 

"I know (how Twixt plays) is considered 'legal' but this person is getting really out of hand," said one player on a message board. "This guy has got to go."

Unfortunately, Myers wasn't going anywhere, as he was incredibly difficult to defeat. Twixt's persistance, as well as his "Yay, heroes. Go good team. Vills lose again," victory cry, drove people to the brink. Soon, Myers was receiving death threats and verbal abuse. One person wished cancer upon his mother, another said simply that: "EVERYBODY HATES YOU!"

So, why did Myers, who is an avid videogamer outside of his work, strive to become the world's most hated City of Heroes player? To prove that "modern-day social groups making use of modern-day technology can revert to "medieval and crude" methods in trying to manipulate and control others." 

You didn't really have to turn yourself into a social pariah in order to prove that, Myers. You could have just read the comments to any random PlayStation 3 blog article.

[Thanks, Wardrox]








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CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:30
CelicaCrazed
Hoborg!? Is that you??
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:31
Trev
No shit. If you go in and screw up other people's fun and/or generally be a douche to try to enforce something no one else cares about, they won't like you and may say mean things to you. It took science to figure that out.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:35
Cowboy TTop
Some gamers get so stupid. Why would you give another player death threats?

They should give this guy a break, as he's only doing his job. While I can understand that this might turn into more negeative gaming press, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Let him play, draw his own conclusions and report.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:35
Excel-2011
He's living the dream and getting paid for it.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:36
Chronic Logic
Obviously these players weren't playing on a Role Playing server. Also, don't mess with Myers, this guy's got a PHD in trolling.
draycott's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:38
draycott
HAH! great picture Pig mask.

As for the prof? Good. Let him do what he wants to do. People don't like it? Fight back.

Shit, WoW makes it so you can't even TALK to the other faction. It enforces the games universe.

City of Heros/Villians should take a page out of Blizzards Manual. And don't say, "Then Heros/Villians will become like WoW." All MMO's are basically the same. If you break the game down to it's lowest common denominator, they are all grind sessions.
ghets's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:39
ghets
Hes a hero guy killing villains and the villains hate him. Isnt that how the hero/villain relationship is supposed to work?
's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:40
Clint
@Cowboy TTop

Well yeah, Death Threats are taking it to far in any circumstances, the point is that this "experiment" was moronic and the conclusion boiled down to "If you annoy people they'll get pissed of" :P
Cartman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:41
Cartman
Pfft, he ripped off south park.
lou's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:42
lou
Sounds to me like the City of Heroes developers need to rework their premise.
Kris S's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:50
Kris S
How the hell did I miss this guy? I take a few months off from COV and miss kicking the shit out of this guy :(
electric goldfish's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:55
electric goldfish
Sounds like Troll Phd participated in "medieval and crude" behavior first. Everyone else seems as though they were retaliating in the only way they knew how. If there was another teleporting character on, they could drop his character off a tall building but that just drops you to 1HP. (or turn his own tactics against him, but that would just be wasting in game time to feed the troll) He's kind of missing the point of CoV - it's villains banding together against heroes to do things like rob banks and such, not just in fight.
Gilgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 10:57
Gilgi
Guy seems like a sociopath. Also, science.
SurplusGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:13
SurplusGamer
There isn't anything remotely scientific about this on first look. What is he testing against? What was the hypothesis? What controls were in place? What exactly in the way of measurable results is there?

Sure, it's amusing, maybe even interesting but science it ain't.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:13
Usedtabe
Ugh. I hate when gamers try to force THEIR rules into a game. Reminds me of Gears when I would get booted from room after room for owning the host with my lancer or pistol instead of the stupid shotgun. Or SF, when it first came out on XBLA, people would bitch about being thrown and tried to institute some stupid honor system where if you threw someone, they got to throw you in turn. If it's in the game(and not a glitch), it's playing legit. In the end, most people are just pissed that they suck, and try to make rules that hinder whatever it is that beats them instead of learning to counter what beats them.
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:19
dip
Jesus Christ, it boggles the mind why time and money is consistently wasted on bullshit studies like this. Give me a wad of cash and I'll go study the sky for a month only conclude that it's fucking blue.
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:20
dip
"how* time and money are*"
mourning orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:29
mourning orange
Thanks Wardrox
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:33
Holyetheline
Excellent research. Confirmed: If you are a douche bag people won't like you.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:36
Havoc Fang
As an ex-player of City of X, this guy is a bastard.

But seriously. If you wanted to know that "Gamer + Anonymity + Annoyance = Over the top reaction", EVERYONE KNOWS.

...And Good and Evil are known to work together for a common goal in many things besides CoX. Example: Uber Villain X intends to destroy world. Villain lives on world, and would not like to die. Hero is a hero. Hero and Villain team up, put aside their squabbles and kill UVX.

Also, SCIENTIFIC JOURNALISM.
PogoOfGo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:41
PogoOfGo
CoH has a certified Mad Scientist? Cool!!
whatisdelicious's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:51
whatisdelicious
I think that what he did was kind of awesome. Would've been better to play as a villain though.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 11:53
Midgetsnowman
Only on CoH. We even have the best trolls. :P
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:05
DinnertimeNinja
I admit, I would be annoyed to have run into this guy, but I also have to admit that I would probably watch a video montage of his exploits a thousand times over.
bunnymud's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:06
bunnymud
This wonderful education comes from my home town of N.O.


The biggest shithole in the country
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:10
CocoJambo
In my days, trolling meant something. Much respect to the prof. for trying to improve the troll levels.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:32
DaedHead8
As someone who has never played City of Heroes or City of Villains, I find it very strange that the communities of those games get mad when a hero makes it his sole purpose to take out villains. A superhero game where the villains and heroes are friends sounds pretty lame to me. Kinda like an unfunny Venture Brothers.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:32
-PL-
Villains and Heroes shouldn't be cooperating anyway. This guy is a true hero.
MajorCOW's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:46
MajorCOW
This is the man I hope to become...
TheRedScorpion's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:47
TheRedScorpion
Ahhh, I see, it's about a bunch of grunting basement-dwellers trying to establish a social pecking order, and when someone plays craftily and in the general rules of the game, they get all frantic and panicked. It's a goddamned video game. He's going against the norms of their play but not outside the rules of the game, but "These three sets of behaviors – rigidly competitive pvp tactics (e. g., droning), steadfastly uncooperative social play outside the game context (e. g., refusing to cooperate with zone farmers), and steadfastly uncooperative social play within the game context (e. g., playing solo and refusing team invitations) – marked Twixt’s play from the play of all others within RV" (pg 9/24) just made the other players piss themselves. While it's 'unsporting' to tp into enemies and let them do the work for them, its not supposed to be about 'sporting' or 'honor' its about getting fake points for a fake game about fake heroes and villians that you spent real money on. I hope the people actually read this and realize how dopey they're being by whining about their precious game.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:56
silvain
I find the reactions to the research as interesting as the research itself.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 13:00
Turbofail
I find the reactions to the comment about reactions to the research as interesting as the research itself
Aero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 13:05
Aero
So people are mad at a super hero character for killing super villain characters?
Sounds like he was playing the game correctly to me.
Reien's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 13:33
Reien
Good cover professor, good cover. Have fun trolling.

Oh by the way, this makes you a dbag.
Kagasumi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 13:58
Kagasumi
If you let opposing sides in a video game communicate via chat, then the worst in people will thrive. This is years old news, one that several games already figured out (World of Warcraft).
You want to see the absolute worst trolling, go back 10 years to Ultima Onlines first days. This was before most developers knew just how horrible people can be via anonymous pixels.
This is the very reason why game design has to be dictorial instead of democratic. The trick is to cover up the rules and restrictions to not be so obvious, while enhancing "the fun".
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 14:19
Midgetsnowman
actually,. other than isolated pvp cases like this one, heroes and villains get along very well in CoH. Hell, the cooperative Taskforces (our version of dungeons) usually are far more popular than most of the single side ones.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 15:27
Magesx
Hey, welcome to the world of every videogame ever made.
electric goldfish's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 15:34
electric goldfish
After reading a majority of his 26 page "research" it just seems more and more like he wanted to ruin people's fun. He states that he continued his "research" aka griefing even after people "pleaded with him to stop". Oh-kay.
SCIENCE INDEED.
bluemeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 15:39
bluemeep
I call bunko on this.

Nobody uses Teleport.
pd771's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 15:52
pd771
Sounds like he went out of his way to make over the top dickish comment and over generalize things.

Sort of like Jim.
Muetank's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 16:19
Muetank
I like the cut of this mans jib. The game is supposed to be about heroes vs villains right? He was killing villains within the rules of the game, so I don't see a big problem. After reading the study it just seems like a bunch of people QQing because he interrupted their point farming, or he beat them in a fight and they got butt hurt about it. It's just like SF like Usedtabe said up there. You kick some ones ass, they rage quit, then fire off an angry e-mail saying something stupid like "lol scrub you block to much, i quit cause you gots no skillz"
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 17:23
Naim Master
I'm surprised no one said it yet ! OK then , pay attention , here I go :

SCIENCE !
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 17:59
Midgetsnowman
The funny thing is half of his research is wrong anyhow. He only did this on one server, as twixt was on Freedom server, the largest server. And that server has a thing for being rather loud and trash talk filled in pvp.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 18:17
DaedHead8
@Naim

Actually, SWP said that in the third post, with an image macro no less.
dawhelan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 21:01
dawhelan
Something does not make sense here, PVP was not added to City of Heroes until issue 4, released in May 2005. City of Villains was released in October 2005. This means that either Destructoid and the source article got it wrong, or someone is actually griefing and not playing by the "rules". Someone playing judge and jury, dragging mobs to attack people.

I guess the question is who is wrong?
Drauglim's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 21:34
Drauglim
NEVER THANK WARDROX!!
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 22:34
akathatoneguy
I kind of think, "hey, this guy is just playing the game as intended", but then again, with an MMO, it doesn't matter how the game is intended, the players MAKE the game the way they want it to be. And how can you really argue with that? If they want to turn it to "Happy Hero Villain Tea Party Time", who's gonna stop them?
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 00:14
BattyAdroit
God, this discussion is a thousand times smarter and more interesting to read than the analogous threads on Kotaku. I loves you, Destructoid. <3
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