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A McGill University professor has attacked the games industry for its focus on violent content. Michael Hoechsmann has claimed that focusing on guns, violence and warfare does society no favors and is unimaginative. Perhaps, but I NEED TO SHOOT THINGS OR I WILL KILL MY NEIGHBOR IRL!

"There is a tremendous lack of imagination on the part of the games industry. I think it’s barbaric," stated Hoechsmann when asked about EA's upcoming mercenary-fest, Army of Two. "I don’t understand why there can’t be a greater diversity of titles."

Of course, videogames are actually more varied than this professor gives them credit for. If you think of the amount of kiddy games and puzzle games out there. Adam Thierer recently blogged about the myth of violent games, stating that the majority of videogames are actually for children. There IS a greater diversity out there, but Hoechsmann has bought into the negativity and anti-hype.

Hoechsmann went on to add that although it would be "simplistic" to claim that playing Army of Two would, for example, make somebody want to become a mercenary, such games could have a longterm effect on "the cultivation of attitudes and world views."

What do you make of Hoechsmann's statements? Is a game like Army of Two running the risk of cultivating our world views ... whatever that means? Is EA, contrary to its claims, promoting mercenary activity with its action title? More importantly, are videogames with violent content only violent because they lack imagination?








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SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:08
SourGr8pes
What?? What's this egghead talking about? Barbarians are cool!

When I play Harvest Moon or Super Mario Galaxy, there's always time for crushing your enemies and seeing them driven before you. Oh, and I absolutely LOVE hearing the lamentations of the women!!
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:14
wardrox
wait... cooking mama wasn't about violence?
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:15
Luigi takes over
I think he's onto something. You know when I was 6, I wanted to be a teenage mutant ninja turtle when I grew up.

I'm now majoring in pre-law, its pretty much the same thing right? I'm gonna bust into the courtroom of my first case and jump kick the opposing attorney in the face while shouting "KOWABUNGA!!!!!!!!!!!!" then I'm gonna eat pizza and break dance.

Yet another old person making mean comments about an industry they know so little about.
Lynx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:16
Lynx
His views are simply barbaric..... BARBARIC! Let that word resound... barbaric..
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:17
3r0t1c n3rd
Remember Kids: First do your research properly, them talk to a reporter.
Eno chan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:18
Eno chan
Well get me long sword and call me Boar!
I'm starting to think that Professors and those who do conduct studies on video games (Mainly the Psychology department.) find a game that fits there limited guideline so that they can prove their point, and to make sure that their research can be viewed as not a waste of money. Once they have found what they want, they generalize and will not move on their position. (Conspiracy theory in the works. :P)
Maybe they should not be wasting their time on one form of media, and start looking at how "Barbaric" most media is. (That's even if we can deem it so.) I mean we don't live in a vacuum.
(First and Last rant ever....maybe.)
LarkOhiya's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:28
LarkOhiya
OH I knew Mario RPG wasn't going to stop my barbaric tendency, but it was a blast to play.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:31
Luigi takes over
This is the kind of studies Jack Thompson cites.

It become a circle of fallacies. Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because...
Rainbowblack's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:52
Rainbowblack
barbaric indeed, while I don't agree with JT I agree that "Games" focus too much on violence nowadays. We might see the Art in certain titles but the mainstream video games nowadays cater to the bloodthirsty lil shits w

Welcome to the "Halo age"

Mr university professor is absolutely right. this ought to be the focus, not the game that games MAKE US KILL EACH OTHER
Rainbowblack's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 08:53
Rainbowblack
Christ that was so poorly written, you catch my drift though.
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:02
Boolean
Didn't we establish that like 60% of games are rated E or something last month?
kohelhunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:10
kohelhunter
@Boolean
Oh we did many times it is just people don't listen or are some fat fuck of a senator who wants to get famous off of attacking videogames....
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:17
Maurice Tan
He probably means how the existence of things like Blackwater is barbaric.

In other news: the training of these animals/kids, to turn themselves into fighting machines, is simply barbaric. Barbaric... BARBARIC!
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:17
TheStripe
Culture absolutely shapes our worldview. Why does war and violence appear in mass media of all sorts, from novels to movies to videogames? Because it's prevalent in our collective global society. Certainly you can't expect a country with the largest military in the world and the collective ire of thousands of nutbar Mohammedians to have a media culture that's all starlight and kittens.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:32
Eschatos
Violence is what humans like. It's in the movies, the books, the plays, the video games, and everything else. That's not gonna change for a loooooooooooong time.
realyst's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:32
realyst
Jack Thompson has actually de-evolved so much he's regained the ability to reproduce via the process of mitosis. This isn't any 'Professor'....it's another Jackling!
Kaos Angel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:39
Kaos Angel
ignorant people will be ignorant until proven smart.

Someone should show him something like Brain Age or Animal Crossing just to shut him up
Log1c's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:40
Log1c
I think the fact that I've never heard of McGill university can confirm that this man is an idiot and wants attention.

Yay bandwagon!
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:50
HarassmentPanda
I was playing Gears the other day and suddenly I realized how cultivated my world views were. In fact, my world views had been cultivated so well that I had to call world view gardeners (oddly, also Mexican) to trim back the branches of my world view tree and harvest its delicious fruit.

Also, this guy is absolutely daft.
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 09:54
casualweaponry
Peggle is raising a generation of serial killers And you can quote me on that.
stevesan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 10:27
stevesan
He is not right in the truth sense, but he is right in the sense that matters: Public perception.

For non-gamers, most games are just about killing people and exploding things. Sure, Wii and Madden are exceptions here and there, but when most non-gamers think video games, they tend to associate it with violence.

The industry, I think, should work to change this perception. It is good for the industry and will make them more money by bringing in more consumers. Kudos to companies like Nintendo for striving towards this. I'm not saying abandon violence in games and just make more Nintendogs, but just make a PR effort to show the public that games can be about more than violence.

For example, games can also be about personal spiritual conflict: http://www.manifestogames.com/shivah
Paustinj's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 10:28
Paustinj
Shit, I want to become a Mercenary after seeing Army of Two, looks fun. :D
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 10:57
Comrade Snarky
Army of Two runs the risk of making me want to play a better game.
Sam Spectre's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 11:17
Sam Spectre
WE ARE BARBARIANS!
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 11:24
Kaspar
Every time i play Brain Trainer, I imagine myself biting kittens in half.
DryvBy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 11:42
DryvBy
"There is a tremendous lack of imagination on the part of the games industry. I think it’s barbaric," stated Hoechsmann when asked about EA's upcoming mercenary-fest, Army of Two. "I don’t understand why there can’t be a greater diversity of titles."

Wow, Jim. Open your fat eyelids and read it. You, being a typical journalist (a bad one at that), said he claims games are barbaric when in fact, pasted by your own fat fudge filled fingers, he said he thinks it's barbaric. Thinking something and claiming it is different. Grow up and quit posting the same rehash garbage everyday.
JohnnyGoTime's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 12:40
JohnnyGoTime
This is a non-story.

The Prof made a perfectly reasonable comment, whether you agree with it or not.

Personally, I *do* agree that many games are violent and lack creativity. But many of them are also fun. There is no conflict here - and there's no need to invent one, either.
AlucardX24's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 13:17
AlucardX24
I think the lack of imagination in the education industry is barbaric.
ShadowKirby's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 13:19
ShadowKirby
Hey, at least OUR media gives the other side their share of time to explain their views unlike some Faux News.

And anyway, since it's in the Montreal Gazette, anybody not living in the West Island is likely to read this.
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 14:02
PrinceofCannedPeaches
Hold on a second, Jim. Are you trying to tell me that there's diversity in the games industry?
NSNick's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 14:43
NSNick
Hoechsmann went on to add that although it would be "simplistic" to claim that playing Army of Two would, for example, make somebody want to become a mercenary, such games could have a longterm effect on "the cultivation of attitudes and world views."


Or, on the other hand, one could argue that such gaming paradigms are so popular because of our already existing attitudes and world views.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 16:19
Excel-2011
Barbarians are only marginally less awesome than Vikings, so I would say that the professor is right on the money on this one.
louiefalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 17:05
louiefalls
Surely in Army of Two you're mainly killing villians and moraly unsound types. Why focus on that barbaric behaviour when Beautiful Katamari encourages you to roll up inocent cows and tourists?
Wubbytoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 19:35
Wubbytoes
This is just another jackass rambling about something he doesn't know shit about.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 20:58
atastysammich
Oh shit! Why didn't anyone tell me you can get a sweet six-pack developing games? I should've stayed in Computer Science...
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 21:01
BlackSunEmpire
@Eno Chan

It isn't a conspiracy theory. It's true, university studies can end up biased purely because of the way they're designed to prove certain hypotheses before the study even starts. I mean a Professor at McGill hardly wants to 'research' something for a few years and then find out that his original hypothesis was wrong. He may lose credibility in the field. You also need to look at who is funding these studies.

It must be time to actually finish my blog series on this shit. If only the ultraviolent Zack and Wiki hadn't sucked up all my time recently.
ZonerDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2008 22:07
ZonerDude
While this guy is an idiot, it is utter bullshit to think that all gamers like this violent shit that pervades gaming today. Not all of us get a kick out of virtually shooting someone in the head, and it shouldn't be fucking implied that any 'gamer' who doesn't go with the mainstream view that violence = awesome is somewhat less of a gamer. That's nothing but elitism.
Howward's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 03:14
Howward
These anti-video game folk really don't like unilateral thinking do they? There are violent games because people buy them, not because people make them. Supply and demand exists in the video game industry too.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 04:18
Bob Muir
More like you're barbaric.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 08:40
Holyetheline
I claim that the professor is barbaric. Seriously that's just silly. Anti-games should game and stfu.
MrPeenie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2008 07:27
MrPeenie
Haha, typical case of illusionary corelation. Things that are more unique to your perception of the world, are more visible to you and more often seem to be connected.
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