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Mike Newell, best known for the Harry Potter series and Four Weddings and a Funeral, doesn't like videogames. He can't play them, he thinks they're vapid, and talking about them "bores the arse" off him. Didn't stop him from making a Prince of Persia movie, of course. 

"I'm entirely incompetent at playing videogames," admits Newell. "In the Prince Of Persia game, you have to run across walls -- I could never get more than three feet without falling into the revolving knives. I was hopeless. And yet I knew I had to satisfy the gamers with the Prince Of Persia movie. It's an important audience and it's a very vocal audience. If they don't like something, you're going to hear. I didn't want that to happen."

Newell believes the Prince of Persia movie is good because it didn't try to copy the games themselves, which he says lack human drama: "You can't do it without the human drama. And the videogame cannot do that. The videogame can do all sorts of face-pulling, all sorts of: 'I am a bad man, I have a mean jagged sword,', but it can't do any more than that.

"... Don't get me wrong -- I watched the game and took many things from it. But I haven't had the experience of feeling in a game. The one thing I do not do when I watch my son mow down Brazilians by the regiment - nor when I watched my assistants playing Prince Of Persia -- I don't feel anything, which is why I hate my son doing it."

The general message appears to be that videogames are good for Hollywood to pilfer as templates, but that it takes a movie to breathe life into the concepts, something that games cannot do themselves. I can't say I fully agree with Newell, especially as I've gotten more emotional impact from games than from most movies made over the past five years, but that's just me. What do you think? Can games ever capture human drama, and more importantly ... was the Prince of Persia film more engaging than the game?

'Video games bore the arse off me' [CVG]








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scouserboots's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:25
scouserboots
Well, maybe he needs to watch someone play Uncharted 2, then lets see what he says about there being no human drama in video games. I may be a gamer, but I know I still enjoy that game for its human interaction than I do most movies made these days.
viralhunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:25
viralhunter
I don't play any videogames.

All videogames are stupid.

I make a lot of judgments.

All my judgments are stupid.
VoodooTerror's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:26
VoodooTerror
yo when Sev dies at the end of republic commando i was heartbroken
Wesley Susaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:27
Wesley Susaya
That's mildly infuriating. Of course some games fail to capture "human drama," but there are plenty that do (Mass Effect 2 being my current go to game). I didn't actually see the Prince of Persia movie because I heard it was rubbish, so I can't personally pass judgment on how Newell did. Still, those are bold statement for him to make.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:28
Shadowiii
Seriously? When talking at PoP: Sands of Time (the game)? That had one of the cleverest story presentations of any game I've played. I STILL talk about the story from time to time.
What a twat.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:28
Bob Muir
Nevermind that Sands of Time was generally praised for the natural human interaction between the prince and Farah. It wasn't the most complicated story, but I certainly became attached to the characters and their relationship.
SenorDoucheoisie's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:29
SenorDoucheoisie
Because it's apparent that Prince of Persia and Modern Warfare 2 are the paragons of drama and emotional resonance.

Go play Shadow of the Colossus and get back to me.
mabman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:31
mabman
I've felt more from games than any movie.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:34
Electrium
Hey Mike, that bit about how you felt nothing from Prince of Persia? I got the same feeling when I watched your movie!

Why the hell would you make a movie about something you don't care about?
Reginald's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:35
Reginald
the old men need to die and/or go away, and get replaced by a newer generation of people who understand and embrace what videogames can provide (in regards to cinematic direction).
EmptySilence's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:36
EmptySilence
Having a director who hates video games make a movie based on one makes no sense.
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:36
Chongomaster
Wasn't that film a piece of shit? Looks like he's incompetent at anything to do with videogames. Including criticizing them
Faux Furry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:37
Faux Furry
Isn't this what Uwe Boll has been saying for years? I suppose that Newell's comments might carry a bit more weight on account of his competence at his job even if that doesn't make it any more true.
At least, he didn't say that he is the only true genius in the business or anything equally delusional.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:37
Xzyliac
He's doing it wrong. Like films some will pull something out of you and others won't. He's clearly looking in the wrong places.

Regardless I don't think this is a terribly awful thing to say. I mean you don't have to feel emotionally impacted by a videogame. That's not the point. The point is enjoyment. Emotional impact can happen but that's not to say it should or it needs to happen. The gameplay takes precedence first and foremost.
ghets's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:37
ghets
Wow that dude sounds entirely out of touch. People best stay off his front lawn!
Faux Furry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:40
Faux Furry
@Electrium
He's not making movies because it means the world to him or to rock anyone else's world but for that thing that makes the world go round.
Is anybody going to put Euro symbols into his name now?
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:40
ProperlyParanoid
Quite a lot of talk considering it was a terrible movie.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:40
Strandli
At least he gets some points for trying. It's not the game's fault he suck at playing them, and he doesn't feel connected to the plot and characters from watching others play the game.

The movie was decent enough, so he did a good job considering he can't play games.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:41
HEL105
So someone doesn't like video games. So what? I'll admit that he probably wasn't the best choice to make the movie if he feels that way, but it's silly to attack the guy just because he's not a fan of our hobby. No point in being THAT sensitive.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:43
Super Drybones
I have never seen a movie couple I believed in. Ever. Games are an entirely different story. They just do love better.
PvPPY's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:44
PvPPY
I think he's looking for human drama in the wrong place. Movies *show* drama, but games putting you in control make the player feel it directly.

You don't hear about viewers marrying their porn DVD's. Dating sim videogames? Much more successful. There's human drama.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:44
GoldenGamerXero
Why exactly are we bitching at his opinion? It's not like he says we shouldn't like games or that games are bad. In fact this is one of the nicest way I've heard someone from the film industry say they don't like games.

"I knew I had to satisfy the gamers with the Prince Of Persia movie. It's an important audience and it's a very vocal audience. If they don't like something, you're going to hear."

That guy probably doesn't realise how right he is about us
PhunkyPhazon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:45
PhunkyPhazon
LACK HUMAN DRAMA!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Okay, okay, seriously, he clearly didn't watch THAT much of the Sands of Time game, and aside from that this man should watch a playthrough of Dragon Age or Red Dead Redemption. Lack of drama, freakin' hilarious.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:45
Neroisonfire
His movie had some ok adventuring, a hot actress, and a good leading character. But the movie didn't tug on any heartstrings. I felt nothing at the end. It was rather lifeless but a cheap thrill.

I'd take any game over that movie any day.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:46
pokota
If you asked someone who doesn't watch many movies to only judge based a few of the more popular big-budget titles, then I have a feeling they'd give the same response. Really, why must these people, who admit limited contact with the medium, feel a need to comment on its validity?

Someone send this man the Team ICO collection when it releases.
cimerians's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:46
cimerians
Movies have sucked for ages. Its filled with garbage. Not like how it was done in the 1940's for example. kind of like what happened with comic books. Your not alone Jim.
Sir Legendhead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:47
Sir Legendhead
So basically he's pissed that his 14 year old son spends too much time shooting people in some undefined online shooter...therefore no game can be art. Fanboy Fridays had better logic than that.
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:50
DF
At least his comments are a few classes above Uwe "I'm A Fucking Genius" Boll and his tripe. Not being good at games I can understand, but it's not as though he's disparaging gamers as a whole. Blah blah blah opinions!
zerocommazero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:52
zerocommazero
Video games will never capture the amount of drama that movies can. And that's because movies are completely scripted and video games give the player control and freedom. And anyone who mixes both dilutes that which makes either genre special. An over-scripted game that takes the control from the player isn't really any fun. And a movie that tries to emulate game freedom flies off the rails and loses any carefully constructed emotional build-up.
trickfred's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:54
trickfred
People that can't play, or don't get, games, need to stop making movies about them. It's as simple as that.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:54
HEL105
zerocommazero is a smart man/woman.
Ball Buster's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:56
Ball Buster
I got more out of Mother 3 and Okami than I did out of any book or movie.

Why the hell did this guy make a frickin' movie about Prince of Persia if he "didn't feel anything" from that game?
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:57
DeusPayne
This guys words would be less bullshit if the PoP movie didn't suck huge donkey balls. A game with 99% jumping is engaging. A movie with 99% jumping is boring as all hell.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:57
PappaDukes
God, why do I even listen to music? It doesn't convey enough drama as a music video does. Therefore, I hate music.
zerocommazero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 12:59
zerocommazero
@ HEL105 Thank you.
Saph's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:00
Saph
Ironically, every recent PoP game has had an emotional impact when nearing the ending (ok, Warrior Within not so much, but hush), whereas the movie wasn't bad, but VERY forgettable.
Killrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:00
Killrig
He hates the very thing his son enjoys.

Way to go, douche dad.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:04
GoodGuyA
I got a nice game for "Human Drama". Half-Life 2. You CANNOT beat that in terms of realism in the people.
bendy straw's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:07
bendy straw
Meh, I have no real opinion on this other than... If he didn't enjoy games so much, perhaps he should reconsider his cinematic direction. Obviously it would be so much more appealing if he shared the same common ground as all of us here, but we can't have it all.
CrispyWaffle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:12
CrispyWaffle
Having a shitty director hate the video game that he's making a movie out of is...god I can't even begin to say. What. A. Fucking. Idiot. If he doesn't want to make the damn film then let me do it, damn. Hollywood never really appreciates video games, sadly. And honestly as Jim says most video games are, indeed, well written these days. After playing Mass Effect 2 I was like "Oh yeah, Hollywood script writers can learn a few things from these guys." Even for the story for Modern Warfare 2 was pretty solid.

This is just really sad news.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:13
Bakewell
Hand on.

This guy is getting flamed because he truthfully shared his opinion, an opinion that he was asked to share I might add. His words aren't bullshit, they are his opinion

@killrig
My daughter enjoys chewing a bath sponge, am I a bad father because I don't like it?
N-effect-human's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:13
N-effect-human
Problem is he's been left out in the cold due to his old man hand-to-eye skills. My dad loved Myst and Riven. He should give those a try.
taiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:17
taiki
Maybe you're all idiots because he's right.

Largely, games are largely lacking in the story telling department.

Yes, there are examples like RDR and say, BioShock, but a large majority of games aren't RDR or BioShock. Prince of Persia games largely suck when it comes to story telling. Suuuuuuuck.
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:19
Retrofraction
what an idiot! ! !
mighty_marcos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:20
mighty_marcos
you expect a person who can only do one thing, to give you an objective perspective about his main competition, the movie industry looks to games as competition, and a competition that they are going to lose, so to see a guy, who can make movies, but not games, bad mouthing his competition, while at the same time telling you how much better the shit that he peddles is, is really not that surprising.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:25
EternalDeathSlayer
Well, I wouldn't quite say that games are incapable of conveying human drama and emotions and making you feel things, but I would have to say that they aren't as good as films or novels at it. Not in general, at least. Some games do it very well, most do not. Even shitty movies can easily do it, because they feature real people. It's a big advantage.

Of course, games give you control, so that's something. You'd think more developers might fucking use it.
topcatyo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:26
topcatyo
I think Prince of Persia pulled off some drama pretty well.
Colin Stein's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/28/2010 13:26
Colin Stein
Why is it that parents, film makers and so on all have these negative opinions on things they aren't at all educated in? That's like a guy saying 'man, tampons are stupid' ...although, I'm sure I could think of a few guys who are so butthurt over stupid shit I wouldn't doubt they are bleeding from their asses and need a tampon shoved up there.
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