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Well, if Beenox is making it I'll at least keep my eyes out. I played and thought Edge of Time was decent. Maybe not quite worth my 60 dollars, but I still found some stuff about it impressive.
here we go. the preview where its amazing, then 4 months later when it gets a 5 because everything here that was said to be great is actually terrible.
@Dark Niwa
Yes, because history always repeats itself doesn't it. Keep in mind that they didn't get to play it here, Conrad can only give impressions from what he was shown. Of course it might all be shit, but what should he do, lie and write off a well made demonstration as a scheme by Activision? What if it actually turns out to be good?
Yes, because history always repeats itself doesn't it. Keep in mind that they didn't get to play it here, Conrad can only give impressions from what he was shown. Of course it might all be shit, but what should he do, lie and write off a well made demonstration as a scheme by Activision? What if it actually turns out to be good?
Sounds promising. I hope it delivers on it's promise. Also, I'd love to see another X-Men game that's as great as the first X-Men Legends game. Every X-Men game since then has been sort of bleh.
"everything surrounding him moves by in a vertigo-inducing blur."
Seem to remember this being in at least one other Spider-Man game.. I think it may have been Ultimate Spider-Man but I can't remember off the top of my head.
"Peter Parker's camera will be returning to the series as well and you'll be able to snap pictures of Spidey, reviewing them later on a laptop in the game."
When was the last time his camera was in a Spider-Man game? I've played just about all of them (except the newer ones, from web of shadows on, which is where I might be missing it) and the last time I remember his camera being in a game was the Sega Genesis game (seriously whoever holds the rights to that game, rerelease it on XBL and PSN)
I kind of wish the game would force you to have to take pictures to sell for cash, so you can keep "making" (probably buying would work in a games case) webbing and stuff.. Restrictive, I know, but it'd force players to really experience what its like to be the character. He needed the job at the Bugle for a lot more then just his crappy apartment, being a hero cost him money he really didn't have.
And that's another thing, I'm not quite sure how his picture taking plays into anything more then being a cool distraction, since in this movie he's not supposed to be employed by the Bugle yet. In fact the Bugle, J.Jonah and pretty much that entire facet of Peters life isn't supposed to be in the movie at all. He's still under his families roof, as a teen, he probably won't even graduate high school in this movie.
I doubt Conrad would be able to say right now, but unless its just Peter dicking around with his camera, even if it the game takes place after the movie, I can't see it being a major thing really unless they decided its okay to skew far into stuff the movie studio probably wouldn't want them to mess with yet.
I am pretty happy to hear about the return to a more sandbox environment. I know people roll their eyes at a Spider-Man game that does this, but I really don't see another way to do the character justice.
Seem to remember this being in at least one other Spider-Man game.. I think it may have been Ultimate Spider-Man but I can't remember off the top of my head.
"Peter Parker's camera will be returning to the series as well and you'll be able to snap pictures of Spidey, reviewing them later on a laptop in the game."
When was the last time his camera was in a Spider-Man game? I've played just about all of them (except the newer ones, from web of shadows on, which is where I might be missing it) and the last time I remember his camera being in a game was the Sega Genesis game (seriously whoever holds the rights to that game, rerelease it on XBL and PSN)
I kind of wish the game would force you to have to take pictures to sell for cash, so you can keep "making" (probably buying would work in a games case) webbing and stuff.. Restrictive, I know, but it'd force players to really experience what its like to be the character. He needed the job at the Bugle for a lot more then just his crappy apartment, being a hero cost him money he really didn't have.
And that's another thing, I'm not quite sure how his picture taking plays into anything more then being a cool distraction, since in this movie he's not supposed to be employed by the Bugle yet. In fact the Bugle, J.Jonah and pretty much that entire facet of Peters life isn't supposed to be in the movie at all. He's still under his families roof, as a teen, he probably won't even graduate high school in this movie.
I doubt Conrad would be able to say right now, but unless its just Peter dicking around with his camera, even if it the game takes place after the movie, I can't see it being a major thing really unless they decided its okay to skew far into stuff the movie studio probably wouldn't want them to mess with yet.
I am pretty happy to hear about the return to a more sandbox environment. I know people roll their eyes at a Spider-Man game that does this, but I really don't see another way to do the character justice.
@BoomingEchoes
I do like the idea of having to buy webbing and make money, but if a game like that is to work I think it would need a whole lot more dev. time than a movie license game gets. Cool idea though.
I do like the idea of having to buy webbing and make money, but if a game like that is to work I think it would need a whole lot more dev. time than a movie license game gets. Cool idea though.
@BoomingEchoes: Yeah, the Genesis game is the last one I remember having the camera in it. It also has a really large onscreen Spider-Man, which is one of the reasons why I find that game so frustrating and part of the reason I have concerns about how much screen area Spidey is going to take up in this one.
From what Beenox told us, I suspect it's a pointless addition to the game, but I'm hoping they actually do something of substance with it.
From what Beenox told us, I suspect it's a pointless addition to the game, but I'm hoping they actually do something of substance with it.
Web Rush sounds like it could be cool. Arkham combat and stealth? Holy shit, yes please. The only thing this game needs to be an awesome game, imo, is the return of the aerial combat from Web of Shadows; that was awesome.
Open world Spider-Man games are some of my favorites!
Open world Spider-Man games are some of my favorites!
The original movie games were surprisingly good, so I may look at this. I hope it's better than the movie, at least, because the trailer just makes me want to watch all the Sam Raimi ones over again.
@Sir Tobbii
History does repeat itself often though, particularly when it comes to positive previews versus the final product.
I can already guess that final reviews will complain about the camera being too close to Spidey while navigating the city, Web Rush will probably be described as dumbing down the action (although this one could go either way depending on how it is done), and the combat similarities to Arkham City will carry much more negative tones.
History does repeat itself often though, particularly when it comes to positive previews versus the final product.
I can already guess that final reviews will complain about the camera being too close to Spidey while navigating the city, Web Rush will probably be described as dumbing down the action (although this one could go either way depending on how it is done), and the combat similarities to Arkham City will carry much more negative tones.
I'm really hoping the web actually sticks to the buildings. It didn't look like it did in the trailer, and swinging from the air is a dealbreaker for me.
Is anyone really bothered that they essentially rip ArkhamCity's combat system? I'm not, hell I actually LIKED the Captain America. Why, because they ripped Arkham City's combat system. The system genius, and should be used in more games.
Spider-man 3 used the camera as well. It would give a score based on the quality of the shots, and even had its own little line of side quests. Was pretty cool. Sells for like five bucks now too.
Depends. Spiderman 2 kept me swinging around that city for hours because of how much damn fun it was, then the third threw out those awesome swinging physics in favor of shitty combat.
Personally, I didn't think the preview was all that complementary. Spider-Man looks good, but who really cares about how detailed the costume is? I'm more concerned about how large the character appears on screen, how that's going to screw with my ability to view the environment and the Web Rush thing just strikes me as a slightly more forgiving Web Zip.
I can't just dismiss the game out of hand. There's potential there that could be realized and Beenox deserves the opportunity to finish the game before anyone starts laying in on the criticism.
I can't just dismiss the game out of hand. There's potential there that could be realized and Beenox deserves the opportunity to finish the game before anyone starts laying in on the criticism.
i think if the criticism came now we can avoid a movie tie in and get an awesome game.
designers dont spend months creating as show previews to be told "thats wonderful" they want constructive criticism so the game goes from being alright to a landmark in the genre.
designers dont spend months creating as show previews to be told "thats wonderful" they want constructive criticism so the game goes from being alright to a landmark in the genre.
Am I the only one here who thinks that Arkham City was too cliched when compared to the Arkham Asylum? Not enjoyable at all.
@Dark Niwa
Well then tell me, how the hell do you criticise something you haven't played yourself when the demonstration seemed smooth?
Well then tell me, how the hell do you criticise something you haven't played yourself when the demonstration seemed smooth?
Well its definitely being rushed in time for the movie release, thats already a bad sign. Mimicking Arkham City is a decent idea but this is Beenox here so it could probably be a clunky POS. Spidey's screen presence is pretty big, this may work in AC where you're playing a methodical batman, but spidey is a much quicker character and less view of your environment could be completely frustrating.
I read an interview where they called web-rush mode basically "newbie" mode, while harder difficulties will have different forms of web-rush that can supposedly be strung together just like the web-zip of previous games.
It could be yet another spidey game I rent and is too boring to finish....but it could be good so I'll be keeping an eye on this.
I read an interview where they called web-rush mode basically "newbie" mode, while harder difficulties will have different forms of web-rush that can supposedly be strung together just like the web-zip of previous games.
It could be yet another spidey game I rent and is too boring to finish....but it could be good so I'll be keeping an eye on this.
This sounds like something I've really bee waiting for someone to do with the Spidey license. Still cautiously optimistic though
They really should strive to be more unique, but given that this is a movie tie-in that needs to be released at a certain date, I can only blame Beenox so much. Arkham City is a good role model, and to be fair, Batman did kind of steal Spiderman's skills like leaving people tied up on gargoyle statues, but I still don't think it justifies having to liberally pick from a game.
Mixing and matching elements from various games works, but doing it from one game? Not so much. Well, let's see if Beenox got their shit together this time. Having a web-slinging focus certainly makes the game sound closer to Spiderman 2, but I'm not quite sold.
Mixing and matching elements from various games works, but doing it from one game? Not so much. Well, let's see if Beenox got their shit together this time. Having a web-slinging focus certainly makes the game sound closer to Spiderman 2, but I'm not quite sold.
If your going to make a comic book game about spiderman, arkam city is NOT the lead to follow. Why? Because that game was about BATMAN!! I don't understand why anyone playing a character that can do the fast paced acrobatics spiderman can wants to chill up on the ceiling watching thugs walk the same predictable loop saying the same dumb stuff over and over like in beenoxs other spiderman turds. I won't judge the open world web swinging till I see more of it, but from this preview it seems like its boiling down to the same thing a lot of games are these days: less controll. Closer camera, blured enviroment, automatic web-zip points= less controll. This game sounds like everything I hated about edge of time thrown into an open world. I have a feeling that beenoxs spiderman game they will release next gen will be called ' spiderman the MOVIE' God, I really hope I'm wrong about everything!
@sir tobbii
The most glaring issue already seems to be the focus on the characters clothing and focusing on him (1/3rd of the screen? you don't need to play or even see it to feel thats not the wisest idea when exploration is one of the few reasons to play a spiderman game)
The most glaring issue already seems to be the focus on the characters clothing and focusing on him (1/3rd of the screen? you don't need to play or even see it to feel thats not the wisest idea when exploration is one of the few reasons to play a spiderman game)
I don't understand the point about them coping arkham city, they had stealth in the first game adaptation of the spiderman movie
Pre-order and you'll get to play as Stan Lee, but I'm afraid it is not going to happen for PC altogether... another reason to love Activition.
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