I am about to utter a something I would have never, ever thought would escape my lips, and it is this:
Rush Limbaugh could not be more correct.
On Rush's radio show yesterday, a caller phoned in and essentially made the same assertion Jack Thompson made on Fox: namely, that the shooter had most likely been trained by video games, or had been brainwashed by them, etcetera. Rush responded:
"Not every video gamer goes out and murders 33 people on the college campus though. There's more to this than that. We can find all kinds of societal problems and ills, but the fact of the matter is that whatever you would look at as a bad influence -- video games as you mentioned -- it may desensitize people, but it doesn't turn everybody into mass murderers."
Just goes to show you that you can't judge a pundit's stance on video gaming by their political slant; Jack Thompson has many liberal equivalents, and, evidently, one of the most conservative people in America agrees with us gamers.
Hit the jump for the rest of the transcript.
CALLER: What I really think is an issue is video violence, video gaming. I will guarantee you, I'll bet my last dollar in my pocket, that this shooter will be found to have been a compulsive video gamer, and when people are living that kind of lifestyle -- and college students do this a lot.
RUSH: Look.
CALLER: Yeah?
RUSH: (sigh) Let's say you're right.
CALLER: Okay.
RUSH: Not every video gamer goes out and murders 33 people on the college campus though. There's more to this than that. We can find all kinds of societal problems and ills, but the fact of the matter is that whatever you would look at as a bad influence -- video games as you mentioned -- it may desensitize people, but it doesn't turn everybody into mass murderers.
CALLER: You're absolutely right, but the classic forms of brainwashing are involved with compulsive video gaming: sleep deprivation, food deprivation, isolation, and then, as I say, if you're shooting people eight hours a day in a cyber-environment, then it just lowers the resistance to honoring human life.
RUSH: Well, look, there's no question that some people probably are affected by that. In this case, let's not jump the gun on this guy and make him a video gamer. We'll find out soon enough everything we want to know about this guy, and I guarantee you that much of what we find out will be America's fault. Just be patient. This stuff will all come out. I want to ask you people a question. I want you to be honest. You don't have to tell anybody else what you think. You don't. You can answer this privately. I'm going to ask you a question. You do not have to tell anybody what you answered. When you first heard the news yesterday, and the death toll kept rising and it finally got up to the 30, 32 number, the 33, how many of you were not really all that profoundly affected by it? The reason I ask the question is, how many of you have become desensitized? The previous caller used the word. There is so much violence on television and in the movies, the video games, I guess, you want to throw those in, violence in newscasts, and we hear about 35 people dead in Iraq every day.
Some people just after awhile, you don't have an emotional reservoir left. Your emotion is all spent. You can only care about 35 people shot so much because, here we had 30, 33 people killed, 30 injured in one incident, but the number of deaths on the highways -- which, granted, are not murder, but there's a pretty big murder rate in the country, various cities around the country. I just wonder how many people, when this first happened, were desensitized. It didn't affect them the way it would have if it -- and I have no answer for this, I'm just asking the question because... The reason I asked this is because this is so extraordinary. I would be surprised if a whole lot of people said that it didn't affect them. But within our generations, our two generations, the last 50 years, there have been a substantial number of these things. Not every day, not every year, not every month, of course. They do happen, but they are not symptomatic of something wrong in the country. Now, I remember when I was hosting my television show, this would be the early nineties, and there was the first incident I can remember of a seven-year-old killing a four-year-old.
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After this, he proposed a few of his own theories as to why the shootings occurred -- namely, a lack of Godlessness in schools and the tendency of liberal professors to talk about how crappy the world is without offering a solution -- but he had me at "let's not jump the gun on this guy and make him a video gamer."
He's still a big, fat, idiot though.
We're all wanting to rally behind Rush over this, but Rush is a pill popper. Is he the best we've got to stand behind us?
That would've been like us electing Hunter S. Thompson to the office of President of the US. Day after being sworn in, Cheney would've been shot...
What I'm saying is, while it's cool that some neo-douche can see our side of things in some regards, we do not want him on our side. We want him to respect our side and leave us alone. Completely.
When something happens that people can't explain, they try to fill in the gaps with the things they don't connect with. In this case, people don't understand how someone could go out and shoot 30 people, so they wonder what's different in that persons life. Video games get a bad rep because EVERYONE watches movies, but not everyone plays games. This same person is more likely to attack video games over violent movies because he/she is more likely to watch a violent movie.
The Scientologists were trying to blame drugs. Jack Thompson and Dr. Phil were trying to attack video games.
Did anyone ever just stop and think, "Wow, this dude must have been really fucked up in the head. Maybe it was a chemical inbalance in his brain. Maybe his parents fucked him up as a kid."
Could it be that video game actually reduce violence?
He seems to genuinely realize that there are thousands of other external/internal causes and/or conflictions that could have triggered this. Hell, we've been hearing about 9/11 and Columbine for years now; though, we should never forget the past, lest we repeat it. News anchors, movie critics, authors, journalists often mention these tragic events whenever they can as a means to fill out there news cast/article, or to perhaps spark meaning where there is none. I firmly believe that the continuous mentioning of these events gradually desensitizes people; folks get sick of the constant references and they eventually stop caring.
It's not that i didn't care about what was happening it's just that it didn't surprise me.
It just seems to be common place now.
WAR should stay in the war zone, i know the people have a right to know about what is happening but they don't need to see it on tv every day.
Agreed. People feel the need to find reason where there very well may be none. Some folks <B>are</B> just fucked up.
being a pill-popper may not be good for you, but does it discredit someone?
@Canadian geese:
I completely agree, thats for not being lazy like me and typing it out so poetically
if a channel like cnn or fox news doesn't want the viewing public to feel emotionally desensitized to horrific acts such as this shooting then maybe they could stop showing uncut footage of other such acts from the world over.
i blame the media well before i blame the videogame industry. there is a clearly defined line between videogame fantasy (however "real" a game may try to be, it is still fantasy) and real-world violence. watching pixelated blood squirt on my screen in gears of war is far less unnerving than seeing a limbless body being pulled out from under a building after a suicide bombing halfway around the world. which one would you see on the 5 o'clock news?
i never expected this from him. its like opposite world...is oprah going to come out tomorrow preaching the words of the devil?
is it chilly in here?
I like the point limbaugh made about the iraq war. It bothers me quite a bit the way everyone seem so torn up about 33 people being shot when worse happens daily, in america's name, over in iraq. Not to say what happened wasn't tragic, but at least it was the actions of only one clearly unbalanced person.
I suspect I know why he did it though, he was pissed on account of being a really shitty play write...
Politics ruins everything. I just want to enjoy myself, not worry about what bumper stickers the other readers have on their car.
Well, there's a slight difference between informing people of violent things that actually happen in the "real world" and someone sitting down and participating in a violent simulation. I think I understand your point, though. I can't count how many times I've watched the news and just been bombarded with murders and rapes and virtually no positive news whatsoever. It's all sensationalism.
Speaking of sensationalism, that's all that the video game issue is to most politicians and networks, especially Fox News. Video games are an easy scapegoat, the most "inferior" of the medias that depict violence in western culture. It's a good way to play to the crowd, attacking the easy target. It's good to see Rush making sense, even if it's probably only because of his stance on gun control.
I do have to give him credit though, he's a master of spin.
I always love the whole "Republican Bad, Democrat/Liberal Good" posts.
It's shocking, sometimes us crazy Conservatives can actually put forth a compelling argument. Cuz', you know, EVERYTHING that comes out of Hillary Clinton's mouth or Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnel, Al Gore, Obama, John Kerry is pure gold.
Messing up bbcode can have a pretty cool effect sometimes, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Thx for the props.
are you out of your mind?
would you rather know someone pops pills, or someone that sexually harasses people??
my sentiments exactly Rush
I'd think on a lot of the shit that Rush has criticized earlier, yes, being a drug addict makes his opinion less credible.
I'd associate with neither. Drug addicts inevitably turn into leeches on you, depending on you to take care of them rather than them attempt to fix their pathetic, chemically controlled mind.
And I've never heard of a sexual deviant who breaks into people's houses to steal shit to buy their porn. Or a sex freak going to 15 doctors to get prescriptions for Viagra to keep up their habit.
"But ... I agree with a conservative! No, I have to save my ego! How can I do that ... Oh, yeah! I'll do what I do best and call conservatives names just because I can! He's a 'pill popper'!! It has absolutely NOTHING to do with what he said, but it makes me feel less guilty for agreeing with him! Pill popper! Pill popper!"
Maybe if you guys actually -- shock!! -- LISTENED to Rush instead of what the media tells you about him you'd understand that he's far more complex in his views than you obviously think.
Grow the f*ck up and stop seeing everything as conservative/liberal, Republican/Democrat, black/white, good/bad.
/rant
I am a conservative.
To put something out, I believe there are more liberals against videogaming than conservatives. Like Hillary Clinton.
Everyone has an inner Truth-o-Meter. When I go to buy a car or watch the evening news or take a sales call at work, Red Flags and buzzers go off in my head like crazy. You get the idea.
When I listen to Rush, a lot of the time I don't feel like I agree with what he says, it's more like he says what I already feel.
And then of course he'll say something that sets off a buzzer and a Red Flag, 'cause I'm not mindless. I can think for myself, and no one has all the answers.
My world went topsy-turvy for awhile. I had to lay down.
I'm all for a female President but... next time.
Yeah, I am shocked at Rush's viewpoint, but just remember that not every conservative or liberal think alike, just as the shooter at VT doesn't represent me as a Korean.
Good for Rush to agree.
Let's just admit it, most of you are smoking mary jane or something right now (or right before logging in). Pain killers are not mind altering. Addicting, yes. Heck, if you wanna put the guy down for that and say he shouldn't be creditable, let's just discredit anything that pops up on Digg. Digg = pothead paradise. DUGG DOWN!!1