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Predictable: StarCraft II gets LAN petition photo

Oh, Internet, you and your silly petitions that nobody will ever bother actually reading. Hot off the back of Blizzard revealing that StarCraft II would not support LAN, a bunch of hardcore StarCraft fans have banded together to petition the studio and demand that the feature be reinstalled.

The petition is at least respectful, imploring Blizzard to bring LAN back, and pointing out that Internet connections aren't always available and that it was LAN that cemented StarCraft's popularity in the first place. The petition currently has 25101 signatures, so it's not quite a Left 4 Dead 2 boycott yet, but it's early days.

That said, do these petititons really ever work? Only when they're a marketing stunt, and I have a feeling that Blizzard isn't yoinking out LAN simply for publicity. We'll see if the democratic process wins out this time, but it's highly doubtful that Blizzard will reconsider because of an Internet petition. 

 


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HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:38
HiddenAHB
Only 25k signatures?
That's like 1% of the people who play Starcraft.
It looks like it's going to be Battle.net or GTFO!
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:40
Takeshi
A petition is way better than some sort of ridiculous boycott. We'll see what happens but I guess there won't be any LAN support.
PwnanObrien's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:48
PwnanObrien
Internet petitions brought back MST3k, made the PS3 cheaper and stopped 1up from getting bought out...


...OH WAIT...
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:49
ajaxender
These petitions never work, do they? Certainly Blizzard are good at ignoring them.

This whole no-LAN thing scares me. I love LAN games, theyre much more personal and fun than fighting faceless robots on the internet, and my whole flat is looking forward to Diablo 3. If we have to play via blizzard servers while we all sit in the same room together, I'm gonna be pissed off, but with nothing to do about it, mostly just sad.

In the end, this is gonna support hacking the games to provide LAN support in some way, maybe by setting up a local fake server. Theyre not gonna stop it... not forever.
Gantz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:49
Gantz
Its not like this one is unjust (the petition).

How the hell are LAN parties supposed to play without LAN or other events.
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:53
Puppy Licks
I can appreciate the fact that this petition is respectful not like the Diablo 3 crying that went around. Hope Blizzard notices and helps them out.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 20:55
Magnalon
If it's an english-language only petition, 90% of the SC population won't even care about it.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 21:10
Jawmuncher
At least this one is all in good taste and with 25,000+ signatures it does show there are still people who care about it.

But will blizzard listen?

Probably Not
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 21:16
deiga-the-semivaliant
The people who want to play this game the most (South Koreans) don't care about LAN because every child is connected via neurological surgery to the broadband hive-mind upon birth. I should know, I was there.
Pacopaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 21:32
Pacopaco
Generally online petitions are a total waste of time and effort but I do believe that they can and have worked on rare occasion. Granted, I think you have to have certain pre-existing conditions for them to be successful such as having the group being petitioned taking a more open-minded approach to the issue rather than a more business-oriented one. (In other words, if the contested decision was more for the sake of profit and/or beyond the point of no return in terms of implementation, an online petition isn't going to do jack.) If it's regarding something more creative and/or not a pain in the ass to implement, an online petition with tens of thousands of signatures MIGHT sway the group by giving the impression of popular support for the change.

There are other factors to take into account beyond the petition itself and I definitely don't mean to overstate the power of online petitions since they're largely whiny piles of shit.
Volcanon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 21:38
Volcanon
Has an internet petition actually ever worked?

I think it's a given that every Starcraft player would prefer LAN play, but if it was removed from the game, only a very small handfull would actually refrain from buying it. Blizzard knows this, the bastards...

But regardless, I'll sign! I'll be damned if I gotta buy more than one copy to play some MP action with friends. Of course, I don't play multiplayer on these types of games anyway, but still!

Besides, I'll probably just pirate it anyway and enjoy the single player campaign muahahahahaha! (Not serious, FBI don't arrest me!)
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 21:45
Jack Maverick
I should make an "Online Petition to Stop These Online Petitions...Including This One" just for kicks.
Egress's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:03
Egress
Jim Sterling sez:
> I have a feeling that Blizzard isn't yoinking out LAN simply for publicity

My left-field theory is that the Activision influence is the source of removing proper LAN support. The designers that let this information out before they were supposed to did so intentionally because they thought it was a bad choice and wanted to stir the pot a bit.
sicPOS's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:05
sicPOS
Well, Starcraft fans did get the original voice actor for Jim Raynor back into Starcraft II. That decision may not have been directly related to the petition but I'm sure it helped. Hopefully this will influence as well.
zer0faults's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:13
zer0faults
The issue is LAN is used to circumvent Battle.Net via tunneling software. So they remove LAN altogether and they guarantee that everyone who has it is playing over battle.net and is therefore legit.

For those that do not know, there is software that allows LAN games over the internet by fooling the PC into thinking the PC's are on the same network.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:20
Chronic Logic
I'mma pirate this game if there's no LAN.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:26
Kyousuke Nanbu
@Gantz

By using these newfangled devices called routers, LAN isn't needed anymore, its a thing of the past.
tehAnt1the1s1s's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:51
tehAnt1the1s1s
I think one of the biggest problems is that Blizzard already announced that they would start charging for battle.net on a monthly basis once Starcraft II and Diablo III are released. I'll be damned if I have to by 3 different versions of the game (remember that BS about it being released in 3 parts?) AND pay a monthly subscription to play any multiplayer at all. I'm sorry but this is a cheap and gready move to try and force people to pay for battle.net and I refuse to by the game if it doesn't at least have LAN support. I'm signing that petition even if it doesn't do anything.

@Kyousuke Nanbu
WTF? Do you know what LAN is?
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:52
Harris Hatsworth
Why don't people realise that online petitions don't work? They're exactly as effective as doing nothing at all but require you to waste at least 20 seconds of your life signing it. Since there's no way to authenticate each signature even if millions of legitimate signatures were gathered they would just be passed over as the work of a bored person/automated program.
sicPOS's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:54
sicPOS
@tehAnt1the1s1s
That was a rumor, Blizzard has stated many times that there will be no fee for Battle.net

@ Kyousuke Nanbu
That is LAN...
yutt's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 22:59
yutt
@Kyousuke Nanbu

Because everyone who hosts a LAN has a personal fiber connection to support 20-50 players off their home connection. Wait, you're an idiot.

My siblings and I (4) get together at my parents' on holidays and LAN. Apparently Starcraft 2 will never be a game we play since my parents don't have broadband available much less a good enough connection to support all of us.

Unfortunately I have to agree with Jim Sterling, (who is an arrogant, apathetic, consumer hating, publisher-cockgobbler), that online petitions are ignored and ineffective. However, the sentiment and using whatever methods possible to communicate your upset as a potential consumer before this is released shouldn't be mocked. Who can honestly say what, if anything, will get LAN added? Who can say what, if anything, will bring democracy to China?

Surely we're going to have many failed and foolish attempts, that doesn't mean the cause isn't worth giving an effort to.*

*Yes, LAN in SC2 is at least as important as democracy in China.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 23:17
Takeshi
I suddenly know what LAN actually means!

LAN = LOL AT NANBU
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 23:29
vexed alex
I don't see why they can't add this feature if people really want it. It's a simple feature.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2009 23:57
Havoc Fang
@Takeshi Ohmagawd abbreviations.

I signed it. I'm not all 'OH SHIT THAT IS BAD B000O' like some, but I miss LAN. Some of my best memories are using LAN on SC with a couple friends and getting completely destroyed by a stream of Zerg that block out the floor.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 01:18
Los255
Why would they take it out in the first place?
spacecadetjoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 01:24
spacecadetjoe
i think its a perfectly reasonable thing to do. People who care deeply about starcraft are coming together and saying "blizzard, as part of your core fanbase and marketing segment, we would like to see LAN support" nothing wrong with that. It's an expression of a desire from a large part of the fanbase.worst case scenario, blizzard doesnt support LAN, best case scenario blizzard does. Good for these dudes and dudettes (maybe) for trying.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 02:38
Noah
I signed it....I've only ever played StarCraft on Lan, what a terrible move by Blizzard
Sir Unimaginative's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 02:53
Sir Unimaginative
I'm a little surprised they didn't play the 'Even when not on maneuvers, a bunch of deployed personnel have unreliable (at best) access to the Internet. How the hell are they supposed to play!?' card.

It sort of worked during the Spore and Mass Effect SecuROM scandal. Granted, it wasn't a complete success then (it just got rid of the periodical activation, not the initial one), but it got EA to do SOMETHING NOT IMMENSELY PROFITABLE. You'd think it'd be worth another shot.
Egress's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 03:00
Egress
Los255 sez:
> Why would they take it out in the first place?

What it boils down to is adding forced authentication to any multiplayer game so they can more effectively monetize "battle.net 2.0".
Woverine's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 03:07
Woverine
i have never played starcraft but even i'm going to sign it. lan is very important in these types of games!
Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 03:25
Professor Pew
Someone will create a 3rd party thing that will hardcode it into the game, then people will just pirate that version. Not really sure how that counters piracy..
Galenmereth's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 05:57
Galenmereth
You know – in Norway – many companies has brought back soft drinks and products that were cancelled, simply because over fifty thousand people asked for it using Facebook groups.

I think these things have more power than you think, if the number of people gets high enough :)
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 06:10
wardrox
Fuck these retards. Who the fuck cares what gamers think? The important thing is that the company selling the product is happy.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 06:43
Nicojay2
@ wardrox. So what you're saying is doing something (signing petitions) that allow said company to remain happy is retarded. The only action that'll work is to make them unhappy.
WARDROX ADVOCATES TERRORISM.
Shaihya's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 06:45
Shaihya
Maybe it's all a trap.
They never meant to take LAN availability out, but predicted this scenario.
1. Be a jerk and announce to cut LAN for silly reasons, even though you don't really plan to cut it at all
2. Wait for petition to appear on the internet
3. Seemingly care about your customers but say it's impossible for some silly reason.
4. Wait for more signatures on the petition
5. Put in LANability again
6. ???
7. Be loved for putting it back in and gain credit for listening to your customers

Ohyes.
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 07:07
hermes
I sign it. I know it may not make a difference, but since I don't own Blizzard or Activision, there is not much more I can do. Except pirating the game, which will be my second option once someone discovers a crack to bypass battle.net.
Drauglim's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 07:19
Drauglim
If they can sign it online then they can play it online.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 09:08
Arttemis
@Draughlim - Exactly, because people wanting to LAN party anywhere with friends have always done so because of a lack of internet. /sarcasm

It's about removing a feature that's commonly in use to this day. Everytime I play WC3 with my friends, I do it on our apartment's network. I want to be able to do the same with SC2.
Archwright's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 09:28
Archwright
I signed it. Better than doing nothing.
Uzzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 09:34
Uzzy
I've fond memories of playing W3, Starcraft and other RTS's, such as Dawn of War and Commmand and Conquer via LAN with my friends at college or at each others houses. Just seems very odd to take LAN play out.
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 09:49
BlackFreefall
Well the last petition I signed was for Capcom to release Resident Evil for the PSP. THat worked out pretty well.
Kagasumi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 09:49
Kagasumi
This will never change.
It is an anti-piracy move, making their online play have similar verification requirements as an MMO. In other words, if you don't log in to their service then you don't play online...period.

Starcraft 2 would get pirated in the many millions without something like this, especially in Asia. A signature list of 25k doesn't even begin to come close to that. Their minds will not be changed, and there is no way the public will convince them otherwise.
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 11:39
RIMoonlight
I'm not a fan of the move, but I'm not crying my eyeballs about it either. What I do believe, is that Blizzard is going to restore LAN before the release date, but probably after the beta. Although I also believe that said move will have absolutely NOTHING to do with the petition. These things are Blizzard's a pro at ignoring, or even retaliating with surprising wit. If they do change their decision, it'll most likely be due to some external force, yet the petition-makers will still high-five and pretend like they achieved something.
Mr Kite's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:27
Mr Kite
I signed a Uwe Boll petition once, apparently that one didn't work. This one probably won't either.
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