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I am currently sitting on a bench at ASU staring at two crowds of people, one right next to the other. At the head of the first crowd stands an elderly woman in a sun hat, holding an oversized piece of white posterboard reading "WARNING: Fornicators, sodomites, liars, and drunkards are going to HELL."

The other crowd, ostensibly formed to piss off the guys who instigated the first crowd, is standing in front of a guy with a sign reading "FREE GAY KISSES."

Guess which crowd is having more fun.

This week, Linde, Jim, Tiff and I will discuss videogame movies. If they suck, why they suck, and which sucked the hardest. I assume that, as always, I will have to act as the last line of defense for the Super Mario movie.

As always, we live for your questions. Whether related to this week's theme or not, the best question will earn 25 smackers, so hit the comments and ask away. 








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stoo1985's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:00
stoo1985
Did you like what they did with Resident evil 2? With it being filmed almost frame by frame with the Video Games cut scenes?

or is it just shit
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:00
3r0t1c n3rd
As a german and a gamer I am very ashamed of my countryman Uwe Boll and his "work".

What do you think, is he really thinking of himself as the next Spielberg, or was his mother viciously killed by a gamer and he's trying to get his revenge on all of us by butchering one francise at a time?
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:04
MaxVest
Re: ASU Signage: Why bother with a warning?
Cowzilla3's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:05
Cowzilla3
The first Rez. Evil was a truly decent Zombie flick.

Here's my question, as it is something I've often debated with other film critics:

Can a videogame be translated into a great movie or B Grade action all we're destined to see (not that there is anything wrong with B-Grade action)?

I've always been on the side of yes, it just hasn't been done but others have had pretty convincing arguments that the pacing and "game" style of videogames don't lend themselves to film.
Ambulance-Y's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:06
Ambulance-Y
does anyone agree that while silent hill wasn't one of the best movies ever, it was the best video game movie.

the creator was a huge fan of the actual game and wanted to do a good spin off of the series and took it seriously. is this possibly why video game movies suck? that possibly the movie isn't even being taken seriously by the people creating it? they just want the pay off and couldn't honestly give a shit about the actual franchise as a whole, or do film makers just suck now. or both.
braulio09's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:07
braulio09
anoche = last night. I HAT URE NOT GUD SPANISH
ScreamingScarab's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:09
ScreamingScarab
Question for Jim: If they were to make a Dynasty Warriors Movie, which actors do you think would be right for Zhang He and Lu Bu?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:18
Sharpless
What is the special ingredient that makes a game work, when its movie adaptation doesn't? What is lost in the translation? It can't simply be the lack of interactivity, can it? What needs to be done to make an adaptation work?
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:19
SR388
What are your feelings on Videogame series which are adapted to an animated film? Personally I feel that they are pretty good and films such as Street Fighter II the Animated movie serve as great entertainment for dedicated fans and casual viewers alike.

Are there any personal favorites of animated adaptations of video games?
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:20
MrSadistic
I'm wondering if there will ever be a movie/game tie-in that will actually be developed and fine tuned without it being rushed out the door and making it complete and utter shit.
Roryzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:21
Roryzilla
Do you think the Halo movie would have broken the shitty-movie mold, or sucked anyway because Halo's storyline sucks anyway?
Sab1nFan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:23
Sab1nFan
Do you think Lost Odyssey would make a good movie? And on the note of sucking the hardest...my vote would definately go to Final Fantasy:The Spirits Within, yeah it has amazing visuals, but NOTHING else. Why does this movie suck so hard?
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:24
wardrox
ART

Please could you have a chat about Gravitation? And maybe peoples "mixed" reactions?
bioshocked's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:24
bioshocked
I really rather like Resident Evil: Extinction. Ok, so it had nothing to do with the games whatsoever. But it was a decent b-movie in it's own right.

I was a bit disapointed though, because the combination "mad max - zombies - las vegas - dual wielding mila jojovich in a hot dust coat" could have made for a far better movie.

But still, it had me entertained. There also was something very video-gamey about the whole pacing of the movie. The combat scenes could have been taken straight from a 3rd person action game..
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:25
KMCC
How/Why do so many video game movies get greenlight? Who is the target audience that does not find these projects laughable or embarrassing?

10-12 year olds, maybe?

Also, I think Cowzilla3 is right, games are their own medium, they simply do not lend themselves to film.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:26
Eschatos
How many FREE GAY KISSES did you accept?
BFeld13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:27
BFeld13
What books would make gmod games? i'll throw one out: Battle Royale
BFeld13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:28
BFeld13
*good
Matchstickman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:28
Matchstickman
Uwe Boll can turn any computer game's storyline into a sucktastic movie. Do not discuss, merely state.
Fanatism's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:31
Fanatism
What about them video-game cartoons? Zelda, Mario, Sonic surely there were more. Weren't they just fabulous?
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:32
Jetsetlemming
What the fuck was up with the Silent Hill movie's script writer? The director (Christophe Gans) was absolutely great, but the script writer (Roger Avery) is an enormous pile of shit that completely ruined it. In the commentary on the DVD Gans speaks of how much he loves the games and wanted to do them right; Avery talks about how "hard" it was to write the script and how much he had to struggle against the game story to come up with his own.
Motherfucker.
Could the Silent Hill movie have been good if only someone with half a goddamn brain wrote it instead? Will Silent Hill 2 be a homicide-inducing travesty? Seriously, what the fucking fuck is wrong with Roger Avery?
angusm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:35
angusm
I've seen a decent amount of people bemoaning the near-death of the Adventure game and applauding it's recent attempts at near-birth, which made me think about our current established genres and whether or not any of them will die off anytime soon.
So, my question, can you foresee any of the current major genres going the way of the Adventure game?
Also, any genres you'd like to see silently disappear?
DanMazkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:35
DanMazkin
Do you think the reason that most Videogame movies end up failing hard is because a great game is a balance between good story and good gameplay? Once you take out the gameplay, there's often just not enough there for the story to stand on it's own, and so the film writers feel that they have to take as many liberties as they can to fill out the story enough in order to make the film.

There's obviously a lot of exceptions to this where games would have enough story to make a great film on their own, but obviously these aren't the games that studios are targeting to make films about.
DanMazkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:36
DanMazkin
Do you think the reason that most Videogame movies end up failing hard is because a great game is a balance between good story and good gameplay? Once you take out the gameplay, there's often just not enough there for the story to stand on it's own, and so the film writers feel that they have to take as many liberties as they can to fill out the story enough in order to make the film.

There's obviously a lot of exceptions to this where games would have enough story to make a great film on their own, but obviously these aren't the games that studios are targeting to make films about.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:40
Knivy
Will you pay my trip to Cancun? I can be your translator!!! Hell, if you take me I'll even be your butler.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:41
Jetsetlemming
Oh, also; amd I the only one who was violently angry when he heard they replaced Harry Mason with a woman because "Movergoes wouldn't connect with a good fatherly figure who risked his life for his child".
I wanted to hurt those motherfuckers so bad for that.
Jonathan Kerr's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:42
Jonathan Kerr
Would you rather have movies based on games(Super Mario, Uwe Boll films), or movies about games(The Wizard)? Which would put videogames in a better light to the mainstream?
Brandon2520's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:42
Brandon2520
We should bring shitty movie night back.

Oh, add Joystiq the movie to your list of cheesy ones.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:45
Kif
What movie would you love to see made into a game, and what kind of game would it be? Bonus points for it being on the Wii and "interactive".
El Fajitas's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:46
El Fajitas
You are in ASU? /and/ saw that old guy with the sign?

High-five!

Also: Moar indie recommendations! I like what ye've offered so far :P
arsons just a felony's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:48
arsons just a felony
Do you think that since games are now becoming more mature and story driven, will that translate well into the new movies being made? Or are screenwriters just going to take the easy route and cast nobodies and chicks with big racks?
Matchstickman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:48
Matchstickman
Does a movie based on a game have to adhere to the storyline of the game in order to satisfy the gaming community?
Resident Evil was coherent enough to pass as a good zombie flick but bore little resemblance to the game, does this make it a bad video game movie?

At what point during your childhood did you stop badgering your parents to take you to see Video Game movies?

Given the tie in release of games and films why do film buffs not have the same negative reaction towards video games based on movies? Movies based on books and video games both get almost universally panned by their respective fans, why no film-to-game critics from the cinema set?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:49
Tubatic
So, consider Final Fantasy Advent Children, and The Spirits Within. Both done in CG, both arguably not completely trash (I don't hate The Spirits Within, but I definitely can't say I loved it).

Do you think more games should attempt the CGI method when going to movie form, or are we losing enough as it is trying to bring the interactive media into a non interactive setting.
Chaoticwolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:50
Chaoticwolf
Can a video game like Shadow Of The Colossus, that has been praised for being video game art, do well as a movie?
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:52
MaxVest
Will movies and games ever successfully converge, or will they always remain distinctly separate forms of media?
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:53
falinter
a great video game movie is almost an oxymoron. you cant take a medium where you have a multitude of choices (and those choices are what makes the medium shine) and translate it onto a linear timeframe and expect the same results.

I fear the only game that could ever really be translated into a decent movie would be PHOENIX WRIGHT. That movie would be hilarious.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:57
manasteel88
Do you think that the video game movie has turned into a genre relatable to B-Movies in that they are hilariously bad, are they just bad, or is there still hope for the genre?
LuccaLover's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:57
LuccaLover
I have to admit that I never played a Silent Hill game but I watched the movie. Was the movie a plot directly from a game? Because it made almost no sense to me. Did you have to play the game to get the movie?
BluFire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:58
BluFire
I saw the first Resident Evil and predicted every event throughout the entire film. If suddenly all the baddies are gone, they're going to come back as soon as the protagonists let their guard down.

Does Uwe Boll's headphones bother anyone else? I always see him with those stupid headphones around his neck. It bothers me.

Other than Resident Evil, I don't think I've seen many other video game movies.

I'm assuming that Jim is going to talk about how "when you make a movie out of a video game, you take something away: the interactivity. Oh ho ho tea and crumpets, you fucking cunts." Please don't talk about that too much because I think you all have discussed that already.

Wait, I've seen the Pokemon movies, which is kind of a video game movie, kind of. I guess it's more based off of the anime based on the game. I totally dug those movies when I was younger. I remember seeing the first one and bouncing up and down in my seat because I had to go to the bathroom but I didn't want to miss part of the movie. It was that kind of cheesy action that any 2nd grader would love. Two paper towels are more effective than one. Your mom is so fat that she jumped in the sky and got stuck.
DanMazkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:58
DanMazkin
@Chaotic Wolf:
I was thinking about that, but i don't think it can be made into a good movie at all unless they totally change the story and the mood of the film.

There are games like Shadow of the Colossus and HalfLife that have amazing storys, but there'd be to many changes made in its transition from game to movie. The silent protagonist is another issue for these games being made into films, as can you image gordon freeman or wander saying anything, let alone support a whole movies worth of dialogue??.
rpbowlinggod's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:59
rpbowlinggod
The only video game movie that pulled off something remotely close to the source is Silent Hill. But yeah, having someone complain that its too hard (heh) to deviate from the video game storyline will take away from any film.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:00
Corak
With the explosion of the gaming market in recent years do you think movie studios take video game based movies more serious than they used to? Or to the old fogies still think we are playing pac-man at the arcade down the street?

While gaming is a recognized creative medium do you think movies get taken more seriously by the general public, and do video game based films suffer because of it?

Do you have to be familiar with the game in order to enjoy the movie? Do you get more out of it than say the average person who does not play video games?
angusm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:04
angusm
@DanMazkin

Silent protagonists can work well in shows.
Watch Afro Samurai.
I'd love to see a Half Life 2 movie with a silent Gordon.
Log1c's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:05
Log1c
Is it appropriate to go to video game movies and yell out the cheat codes?

I wanted to go see Doom just to yell out IDDQD and IDKFA...
Sam Spectre's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:11
Sam Spectre
FREE GAY KISSES! That's hilarious.

I have no real questions for the podtoid today. Maybe you guys could help me decide what takeout to get this Friday; Chinese food or pizza?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:11
Tubatic
Also, the Mario Bros movie did the only thing it could reasonably do: interpret the game's elements into a "gritty" live action narrative. It deconstructed and reassembled the lore and settings into as epic an adventure you could make with Bob Hoskins as your front man.

I don't own it, but I feel like I should.
DanMazkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:21
DanMazkin
@angusm:
Yeah true they work in shows, but name any film that uses a silent protagonist successfully? There's no way that a HL film would work with a silent Gordon because firstly, Gordon Freeman isn't a mute, you just don;'t hear him speak, and secondly, the reason games use a silent protagonist is so the player is immersed into 'being' the character as much as possible.

Now that I think about it, maybe a HL movie would work, considering that Gordan actually spoke, and the writers of the film remained as faithfull to the game as possible without cheesing it up at all, but hey, what are the odds of that?
Lowkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:27
Lowkey
Bioshock 2 fan-made concept art? Totally awesome, right? Gotta love the whale.
McMeatbag's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:28
McMeatbag
Which off-kilter property would you want to see developed into a film? Who would star in it? Who would be your ideal writers/directors?

And if the game were one of a series, which characters or storylines would you like to see on the big screen?

Also, why doesn't Michael Bay quit jerking it to robot porn and give us a N.A.R.C. film? Oh wait, Bad Boys...
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 17:35
Samit Sarkar
Practicing your Spanish in anticipation of Cancun, Rev?

We’re all familiar with Jim’s argument that videogame-to-movie adaptations can’t work because the interactivity is lost in translation — and I agree with him. So do you guys ever see a great movie coming out of a video game — as in, is it even possible? Put another way, if Peter Jackson directs the Halo movie, could it be successful?
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