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Tonight, the Podtoid crew will discuss PlayStation Home, the Spike Video Game Awards, and EA's financial punishment for originality. Amongst other things.

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Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:27
Niero
I love that video. I wish that guy did the voice of Charlie Brown
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:31
Diverse
IT'S A JIGGLYPUFF VIEWED FROM ABOVE
Majora's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:32
Majora
ITS A KOFFING!
Son of BaconSandwhich's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:33
Son of BaconSandwhich
Hm.. I got a question.

Do you think the panel of judges used for the VGA's was a wise choice. Do you think they could have used something better? From what I understand, a people's choice brand of judgment ends up being mostly madden titles.

When I do watch them, it seems they get people to go that are not even half way interested in gaming. Was this reflected this year also? Or has it changed? Whats your opinion?
midnightskulker's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:39
midnightskulker
Question: Are EA's original IP sales based on the fact that most gamer's know their past of recyclying games over and over; thus staying away from any content branded with the name?

Also, do you think 2008 was a better year OVERALL than 2007?
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:43
Zantetsuken
We all know that videogame piracy is bad and it ultimately harms the industry , but what about downloading ROMs for consoles like the SNES. Is there a cut off point for when it is legally acceptable to pirate a game?

I don't download anything current gen or last gen, but as far as I am concerned PS1 etc are fair game - does this make me a bad person?
greeneggsnsam's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:44
greeneggsnsam
How do you guys feel about difficulty levels in games? Here's the deal with the way I use them:

If a game has different difficulty modes (sans Left 4 Dead) then I will almost always go for the easiest one- the route through the game where I will experience the story (etc) with the least amount of frustration. A well-designed game won't be any less fun on easy, just less of a bitch.

However, in many ways I prefer games that have no difficulty modes. If there's no choice, I can't pussy out and pick "easy"; this way, I experience the same game and can have the feeling of completion on the same level as everyone else who has played that game.

Essentially, how do you choose a difficulty when you first play through a game, and do you think difficulty levels are worth having?
Cema's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:54
Cema
Should games be rated on their contribution to the industry as well as their quality? (An example would be Maze War, the first first person 'shooter', the first instance of avatars for players, level editor, first peer to peer multiplayer online game, online chat, observing mode, etc.)

As for my siegelpun, "Don't get mad, get Mad World."
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:54
ParaParaKing
IT'S PIKACHU!

Question: What did you think of 2008 as a whole? Was it a better year than 2007?
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 14:55
F Whipple
What was the biggest surprise (if any) of the VGA's?

For me it was prof layton winning best handheld game.

Siegelpuntz (nvgr)

Don't Wake Daddy, but this game will keep you up all night!
TheRemedy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:00
TheRemedy
Who do I have to hump to make the Siegelpuntz stop?
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:01
garison
Why does Podtoid suck so hard?
crackity jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:03
crackity jones
People watched Spike Video Game Awards?

I watched the X-Play one ... seriously Fable 2 GOTY!? WTF

Siegelpuntz: You'll stay home all day with Sony's virtual home :D
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:03
pendelton21
Who here thinks Geoff Keighly looked like a tool last night, and a trained monkey could've done his job better?

Also, what (if anything) saved the VGAs from being completely abhorrent? My guess is either Tim Shaefer's entrance, or the 5 seconds of Hideo Kojima.
welkstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:14
welkstar
That "awards show" was a farce. How is it that both Spike and X Play have completely failed to recognize that Lost Odyssey came out in February of this year? Mistwalker got robbed.
Pyroph's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:16
Pyroph
Geoff Keighley is a fat liar.
4knuckleshuffle's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:18
4knuckleshuffle
Who's that pokemon?
Cosades's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:19
Cosades
Back in 2003, Ubisoft rebooted the Prince of Persia series with The Sands of Time, bringing creator Jordan Mechner on board as consultant and writer. The game was brilliant and everybody was happy. Then Ubisoft ran the series into the ground with two more games (no Mechner involvement) that sucked out loud. Realizing they had ruined their so-recently revitalized IP, Ubisoft decided to reboot again, but missing a key ingredient from the successful 2003 outing, created Prince of Persia, an insulting game that I can only hope will be the last PoP game Ubi ever makes.

So to recap, every Prince of Persia game ever made without Jordan Mechner has been bad. Every game Jordan Mechner has ever made has been great.

Sometimes I think that we tend to single people out for credit undeservedly. Warren Spector, Will Wright, Peter Molyneux, etc. hold godlike status in our subculture (trickster god status, in Molyneux's case), but they don't shape games out of the ether by force of their will. Games are collaborative efforts by dozens or even hundreds of people, and these figures serve as the "front man", a focal point for praise. That's not to say that they aren't brilliant and creative, but they are not the sole authors of our favorite games.

Nevertheless, circumstances like Ubi's handling of the Prince of Persia franchise make me wonder if one person really can make the difference between a good and bad game. Since Sands of Time, the central problem of the series has been terrible writing and design, two things Mechner specializes in. Could his involvement have turned PoP 2008 around?

Do you guys think we unfairly heap praise on a few individuals at the expense of the unseen game dev proletariat? Or are there really monolithic figures who Make Good Games? And when you answer, think about this: Tim Schafer has never released a game that wasn't brilliant and hilarious.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:19
Char Aznable
Dër Sïëgëlpüntz™: After watching the Spike Video Game Awards, you'll want to Destroy All Humans!

Which online shenanigans and/or chicanery angers you more? The fact that people pay for clothes for their Xbox/Home avatar, or the release of shitty DLC that's churned out a week after a game's release?

Jimmles, how is America treatin' ya so far?
vikingofmars's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:19
vikingofmars
My question: with the growing popularity of shorter and simpler games such as XBLA and WiiWare titles, do you think there should be an award category for games of that kind, whether categorized by length, price(under $20), or simply independent games, like Braid which garnering much praise?
Dragonzigg's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:22
Dragonzigg
Given that EA called Brutal Legend a 'significant creative risk' do oyu think that risk will pay off? I've no doubt the game will be great, but I'm talking purely in financial terms here - will the game make money or will it be a much loved flop like Psychonauts?
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:22
falinter
I love you Podtoid.

That isn't a question but I still want it anwsered.
;)


phonetic spelling: Fall-Inter






also, I missed the vga's don't spoil them until I can torrent them!
Timtoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:27
Timtoid
Why is there pretty much no one in the actual games industry involved with these things? Sure they had the Gamer God bit praising Will Wright, but why not give Cliffy B as much airtime as Tony hawk? He could probably do a better job, and we know he cares more about games rather than a guy who's name is on them... in short, why do we have other celebrities in these shows rather than important people in the games industry? Perhaps this is how they can be made more public!
Druid 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:29
Druid 01
with the end of the year coming soon are their any little known games that made a big impression on you guys that would recommend for people to go back and check out.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:29
sickNasty
Jack Bauer (AKA Kiefer Sutherland) won the "Big Name in the Game" award last night, then said something weird.

He basically said that it was only a matter of time before video games and movies become so intertwined that they form a wholly new medium.

What do you think about this statement?
PwnanObrien's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:32
PwnanObrien
How underrated was No More Heroes this year? It came out late January and yet I've rarely seen it mentioned on "best of 2008" lists. It's a game where I suplexed a magician into the ceiling so hard he burst into coins and blood. How can a game warrenting that previous sentence not get praise?
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:32
Phoenix Gamma
What's up with the VGA's being one third game trailers, one third shitty music, and then one third awards?

Why can't people just make programming about videogames? Why do they need to fill it with crap like reruns of COPS (G4) or performances by 50 Cent (VGAs)? Do they just want to put on a show, add the word "videogames" on the title, and hope to get lots of viewers or something? It doesn't feel like I'm the target audience, even though I love videogames a lot.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:33
Char Aznable
Looking back at the past year in gaming, what games or specific moments have given you the most unbridled joy? What has brought you back to the reason we do all of this in the first place - having fun?

Conversely, what has made you want to scream and smash your controllers against the wall?

Also, if you could go back in time and give your younger selves some gaming-related advice, what would it be?
Muddy Waterz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:46
Muddy Waterz
It seems in the hardcore gaming community there is some sort of gaming "elite". People who never give a game a chance because its not perfect. Have your opinions about a game ever change because of another person's view of it?
BulletTrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:49
BulletTrain
Gamer Holiday wish time:

The holidays are miraculous times. You get one wish to change anything related to gaming. So I guess my question is, if you could change any one thing related to gaming in anyway, what would it be?
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 15:59
Necro BABS
Where do you guys fall within the story of the Kid whole killed his mother and injured his father over Halo 3?

Whenever we hear about video games being sited for violence we always advocate WHERE ARE THE PARENTS, and in this case they did what normally any parent would do.

What should we do or if they can be anything done to stop this?

They blamed that he was isolated at home due to a snowboarding accident. Is that really a justifiable cause?
What ever happened to just plain crazy?
Eraserhead's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:00
Eraserhead
looks like a godzilla
CharleyTony's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:04
CharleyTony
2 questions:

a) When is it too soon to release Premium DLC ?

(Gears 2 wants 10$ for new maps after being out only one month ! thats crazy and it might split up the matchmaking)

b) What can be done to give a longer "online" life to smaller downloadable games ?

(Buying an XBLA game and not being able to find people to play online after a couple of months really sucks ! How could they fix this ? The only thing I can come up with is that they should either organize more specific gamer nights to encourage people to return to their older games, or port some of the XBLA games to GAMES FOR WINDOWS and make them cross compatible, that would bring more players to the online matchmaking... and hopefully buying that game on xbox 360 would make the WINDOWS version accessible to you at the same time...hopefully...)
Eagle 88's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:08
Eagle 88
Question: What do you think a good video games award show would look like?
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:14
Puppy Licks
Do you guys think that the VGA's have cheapened (even further) the public view of gamers as a whole? The 'celebrity' guests pandering to the gamer demographic was probably the final nail in the coffin for me (Kiefer Sutherland, please stand up).

At least it's over now and we can go back to being embarrassed to mention people we meet that we love videogames. As usual.

Your thoughts?
Zagieman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:21
Zagieman
Question:

Could one of you please infect Topher again? It transformed his already sexy sexy voice into something which gives my ears orgasms just thinking about.

Follow up question:

Topher, have you ever considered a career in audio book recording?
AlmightyTooth's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:31
AlmightyTooth
The newest game by Bethesda will make you FALL-OUT of your seat, 3 times!
JTHomeslice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:34
JTHomeslice
With the Spike awards having that independent games category, do you this marks these smaller games breaking into the mainstream? If so, do you think this will change the games at all?

Also, Brutal Legend looks fucking amazing.
Funky Goodness's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:49
Funky Goodness
With the current DS remake/port trend, do you think developers will ever go completely out of their way to make DECENT original games, despite the risk of not being an established franchise?

The last one I played was Professor Layton, and I thought that was absolutely fantastic. It's sold out almost literally everywhere here in Ireland, as I found out when I tried to get a copy for my sister.
Tascar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 16:49
Tascar
Seeing as discussions of EA and financial success (or lack of it) inevitably leads to industry complaining about used game sales, I would like to offer up a slightly different take on the used game sales issue for your consideration.

Many have defended used game sales by pointing to the used car industry as an example of how other industries have embraced used sales (usually reluctantly if you look at the way used car sales was similarly disliked by automakers initially). While I am personally of the opinion that one should be free to sell whatever they want free of restrictions, I think the used car sales analogy is not actually correct. However, it might actually explain why so many in the game industry is upset.

So here's the thing. Generally, we understand what a new car is. We understand what a used car is. To be stereotypical, if you have money, want the latest car model, or want a car in prime condition, you go and you get a new car. If you don't quality under these conditions, you go and you buy a used car.

In other words, there is a concrete division between what is a new versus used car is and who buys what. If someone could afford a new car, they probably would: it is not a lost sale since the person could not afford it in the first place. In addition, people are not likely to sell a new car until much more than one year, which is pretty much the lifetime of a "new" car since at that time the new model comes out to replace it.

In contrast, by its very business model, Gamestop seems to have stripped away that difference between new and used games. Most of the Gamestops I visit are layed out in such a way that it is far easier to find used games than it is to find new games. There is aggessively pushing of both buying and selling used games. Hell, half the time I go to buy a new game, I see that they have already opened the package so it is pretty much a used game already.

In other words, the used car business by its very nature does not really cannibalize the new car business. In contrast, Gamestop seems to be redefining used games in such a way that massively cannibalizes on new game sales because they are basically sending the message that games are disposable pieces of entertainment. It is simply not worth you buying new and even if you buy a game new, you can get more of a "benefit" by selling it back ASAP for a new or used copy of the next big game.

So basically this long-winded question and analysis basically boils down to this. Do you guys think this might be why the game companies are upset with Gamestop and used game sales? That is, that Gamestop is not just selling used games: it is redefining and in many ways reducing the intrinstic value of "new" games.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 17:00
KMCC
I have a question about 'life' or 'energy' in games, as in life bars, hit points, lives, etc.

Could you see the set, finite 'lifetime' mechanic of Passage working in a large scale, sweeping RPG type of game?

I think it has potential for making your choices and experiences more meaningful, especially if you're only allowed one save slot.

I think this could work in games with risk of death from enemies, as well as in games without death risk, like a Harvest Moon or some such game.
Mike Hawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 17:02
Mike Hawk
i was playing eternal sonata recently and i felt like i was battling the same 3 bosses the whole game. metroid prime hunters on the ds does this a lot too. has there ever been a game that successfully pulled off only having a couple different bosses?
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 17:03
Brian Keljore
Is it me, or are video game awards cliched as all hell and rather than award quality games, they just award the games with the highest marketing budget and most annoyingly vocal fanbase?
KorJax's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 17:05
KorJax
I looked into the World of Goo piracy mentioned several episodes ago...

Apparently the game has not been released in Europe yet for download, and several people I have seen on the internet that have pirated it say they did so because they are European and wanted to play the game.

Do you think this justifies any of the piracy at all (a game not being released in another country for several months)?

Also, will bonerquest be a region-locked title, and will European countries be able to receive the game at the same time Americans will?
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 17:15
AgentMOO
Do you think that Sony's Home will hit the mark with a MMO or casual demographic?




Das Siegelpun:
Sony's new MMO offering will have you feeling right at Home on your Playstation 3!
InfraredChimera's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 18:00
InfraredChimera
When you guys write a review for a game and give your score for it, why do you guys think of people that lose there shit because you gave it a lower score than they thought it should have received a higher score?
My Home related question is this; A BonerQuest game space with a phalic disco ball hanging from the center of the room?
snotrocket's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 18:00
snotrocket
Why are lunch bags brown? I mean, who thought of putting their samich in a brown ugly bag? You would think anything but the brown, which happens to be the color of dirt or soil. You keep your samich in a bag so it doesn't get dirty...I dunno
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 18:34
TrailerParkJesus
What's the hardest/most conflicted/most troubling decision you've ever had to make within a videogame?
Ballistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 18:36
Ballistic
How about you guys revisit an old question that someone asked that should have gotten more time, If you guys could set up a dream game concept or title that already exists with a preferred Developer(s), what would it be? I'll be sure to ask this question again if it doesn't get air time this week.
MatCD's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/15/2008 18:47
MatCD
Hey Rev, Rant about something. Anything. Those NGDs aren't doing it for me. Can you at least give me 5 seconds about what you had for lunch?

More serious question for the whole cast:
What game in your collection have you had the most replay value out of? Why that game? What other games do you want to play though again but haven't? And what games do you still own that you never want to touch again?
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