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Podtoid 63 records tonight

4:02 PM on 07.30.2008   |   Anthony Burch


Chipmunk Will Smith yelling at a mannequin is better than all the seasons of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air combined.

Tonight, we record Podtoid 63: we'll be weighing in on this month's Musings theme, talking about the future of XNA and XBLA prices, and sex. In videogames. 

The sonnet theme for this week comes from taumpytears' gift that keeps on giving -- his idea for Lego Event Horizon. If we can't have an actual game of it, we might as well have some badass sonnets about it!

Anyway, hit the comments and ask a question. If you ask the best one, you'll get $25, which you can use to buy one XBLA game.








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CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:01
CypherVR
Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air

In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys
Who were up to no good
Startin making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air
the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:02
the Golden Avatar
Do you think the rumored prices of Castle Crashers and Braid are an experiment to see what people are actually willing to pay for an XBLA game? If they sell well do you believe these price points will become more or less the norm going forward?
Cosades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:04
Cosades
Is the Will Wright model of sandbox gameplay an opportunity for players to tell their own stories in games, or an abdication of any responsibility to tell a story on the part of the designer? Obviously there is room enough on the playground for both sandboxes and curvy slides, but do you favor one approach over the other? As a storytelling medium, do you think games are better served by emergent storytelling or authorial direction?
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:10
eternalplayer2345
When the industry inevitably develops a digital distribution model for it's software, do you think we will keep a standard pricing for these games (a la $50/$60 today). Or will these games have much more varied price points, depending on different factors. And if they should be varied what are the factors that should determine the cost?
MrRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:10
MrRed
Do you think that Sonic gets a bad rap considering all the non platformers that Mario is in?
tornotlukin's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:10
tornotlukin
I feel that video games can't address sex or sexuality in an adult manner (or any manner really) without the media/watchdog/politics flipping out. Wasn't Mass Effect called pornographic even when the "sex" was tasteful and silhouetted?

This comes down to an american (puritan) cultural thing where politics/religion like to hide and/or vilify sex. It's a shame that something which is a human function is made to be hidden and not explained.

Wear a condom.
Irvine_frost's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:16
Irvine_frost
why mass effect drew such controversy about the "sex scenes" and game like farenheit just flew under the radar?
Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:16
Zombutler
If you guys could virtually remove any video game series or franchise, and make it as if it never existed, what would you chose?
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:16
Demtor
Damn it Fred! Why ya gotta go an' fuck wit his head like that?
Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:17
Zombutler
**choose
greeneggsnsam's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:19
greeneggsnsam
Sex in a Wii game. Loads of controversy, or tonnes of controversy?
Harukai's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:21
Harukai
Do you think that games that feature appropriate sex scenes should be graphic, playable, not in games or done as if they were intended for a family audience like a James bond film where you know what has happened and yet saw nothing but understood everything.
ryu89's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:24
ryu89
Hey podtoid, how's it going? I've got a nice thought provoking question for you guys this week. If you were given the chance to take one game that you loved, but no one bought, make a sequel that was as good or better as the first one, have it sell well, but then the series begins to slowly decline into mediocrity after a few more games(aka sonic) which game would you choose?
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:25
PappaDukes
god, I LOVED that movie. Just saw it for the first time last night. Best scene besides yelling at the mannequin? The very final showdown with the grenade at the end. AAAAAAAHHHH! ASPLODE! Priceless.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:25
Brian Szabelski
Here's a question:

Is there even room for sex in today's gaming environment? What does it actually add to the gaming experience? Does the inclusion of sexual content add to a game, or does it take away from the experience? How do each of you feel about sexual content in gaming?
Fat Beezus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:26
Fat Beezus
Not on topic: What upcoming game do you desperately want to like, but know will probably suck?
AlienGuy18's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:29
AlienGuy18
With Soul Calibur 4 custom character videos already popping up like mad, and the looming behemoth that is LittleBigPlanet approaches, user created content is becoming less and less for writers of fanfiction that want to see if Link could kick Thors butt, and more mainstream. My question is, where do you think character creators, and even game creators such as LBP are headed? Can the concept grow any larger, or is LBP the cream of the crop in user-friendly "homemade" content? If not, what do you imagine would be the perfect game revolving user-generated content?
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:30
pendelton21
Why am I so awesome?
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:32
CaptainApocalypse
Given the fact that we usually treat XBLA and WiiWare like backwards cousins that occasionally impress us (Penny Arcade Adventures, Mega Man 9, Ikaruga, etc), and the costs of the games reflect that, what do you think about M$ asking for the real world equivalent of about $22 for Castle Crashers? Is this a slippery slope that will lead to them charging outrageous prices for shit games in the future? All they'll have to do is claim that the production value/time is the same to "justify" it.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:36
Tubatic
How do you feel about features being removed from sequels?

For example, Soul Calibur IV, while an excellent fighter by core gameplay alone, does not contain series frill features like the AI controlled fight Theater or the form katas for each character. The core gameplay is there and polished, but the game feels like it has a little less character by not having the long running features from the previous games.

This could even apply to the upcoming and most recent SimCity games. WHERE THE HELL IS MY RESOURCE MANAGEMENT IN SIMCITY SOCIETIES!? WHY THE HELL IS THERE LESS ROAD-TO-LOT DETAIL IN CREATOR THAN IN SIMCITY4?!!!?

Thanks for your time, keep up the great work.
JTHomeslice's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:41
JTHomeslice
Do you all think that Penny Arcade Adventures being priced at $20 and selling moderately well influenced these prices (assuming they are real, of course)?
matt247's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:43
matt247
Should big name developers create XBLA games?
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:45
KMCC
Question: Is Aaron a games journalist? Does he work in games journalism? Will he mention it? ( just kidding )

Seriously though: Sex in most games rarely emerges from an emotional, character driven context. In turn, most characters sexuality is usually apparent form the start of a game, and rarely ever develops beyond the static persona revealed at the onset. However, it would seem that given the amount of time a game requires to experience, as opposed to a film, that these subjects could be used in very interesting ways regarding story and character arcs.

Do you think this could be a valuable avenue for games to explore, or could it ultimately fail due to tension between rigid narrative and player agency? Could they be successfully reconciled? Or would it just be boring?

My vote for best use of implicit and symbolic sex/sexuality in games: Silent Hill 2
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:46
Bioautographical
Would The Dark Knight mark one of the only times in history a licensed game was actually fun if Christian Bale beating up his mother was included as a minigame?
GuildMo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:49
GuildMo
XNA Question:
Where the fuck are the XNA games?

XBLA Prices Question:
MS commented on the quality of XBLA games, but they don't look like they care in anyway. Can anyone find any example of them not allowing a game being released on XBLA? If so, why?

Sex Question:
Chad? Please play on my team. I'll treat you good. ;)
's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:50
Clint
Am I alone in thinking that, for the most part, the video game industry is no where near mature to be able to include sex in games? If you look at the way the Dead or Alive and Soul Caliber girls, along with most female video game charecters, are portrayed, with ridiculously massive breasts and absurdly skimpy outfits, does it not show an underlining immaturity when it comes to sex so that, if a sex scene were present in a game, it wouldn't serve any thematic or story purpose, but instead just be playable porn handled just as awkward an embarrassingly as Dead or Alive Extreme?

And do you think the gaming masses as a whole would be upset by this addition, or am I out of touch, and most would welcome this new level of fan service?
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:54
eternalplayer2345
Mr red just posted this on his blog. It turns out the castle crashers and braid prices are incorrect. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53933
entrager's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:55
entrager
I'm sure you guys will have seen the news by the time you record, but MS is denying the prices for Braid and Castle Crashers are as rumored...

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53933
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 16:58
A New Challenger
I'm writing a Monthly Musing finally. Why am I so damn lazy?
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:02
Nogarda
Sex, Drugs, Rock n Roll, TV, Videogames... what is next DISCUSS!?

Everyone seems to do alot of bitching and clambers to have ago about sex in videogames, yet they don't seem to want to do anything more than ban it in an uneducated, and prudish fashion.

What do you think of the adult spectrum of the videogames market, marketing stratedgy? Do you think advertisement with games such as manhunt, GTA, resident evil etc, can be marketed better. In effort to show parents that such a game is not aimed at kids, and as such if another douchebag does something horrible the games industry has itself covered, and for once the media can blame the parents instead?

Or will this be something forever doomed to be an:

Faceless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:08
Faceless
It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but I'll try a sonnet anyway.

A horror story is best when the plot
abandons outward threats for internal,
and this philosophy is not forgot
in Event Horizon, that film fearful.

But throw this story in the Lego world,
and suddenly a frozen corpse seems fine.
The yellow square body, with eyes unfurled,
has a cute sad face, as if he could whine.

The Lego men and women meet their fears
with exaggerated despair and fright,
covering their horrors with a veneer
of sugar coated fun sure to delight.

And yet the creepiness of this version
could in some ways surpass the source fiction.

I don't really have an insightful question, but I am on the fence about the Siren episodes which were recently put on the PSN store. Have any of you played them and or heard good things about them?
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:13
Bob Muir
1. With the impending release of Castle Crashers, we are seeing a very full-featured game being released digitally at a higher than usual price point. For a game that seems at least on par with Alien Hominid, which was initially released at retail for full price and later given a cheaper XBLA release, why are gamers complaining about the "high" price point of a game that is easily worth the $40-60 value of a full retail game?

2. When will Podtoid do a call-in show similar to Podcastle that will allow listeners to insult Tiff in real-time along with Anthony?
DarkAnubisPwnr's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:18
DarkAnubisPwnr
Im teaching my self game programming from scratch and its made me think differently about games recently. When you guys (d-toid staff) go on about "game play" i always think, game mechanics. That's all i see now is game mechanics! So, my question is: What game mechanics do you think have been overused/do you miss/need to be brought back now a days?
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:26
Darren Nakamura
What do you guys think about people complaining about a (not even yet confirmed) $22.50 price tag on an XBox Live Arcade game, when retail Xbox 360 games go for $59.99? Why do we make a distinction between the downloadable games and the disc-based games, even when the amount of time spent on a game and the amount of enjoyment we get out of it can be comparable?
Blake's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:32
Blake
On the Topic Of Sex in Gaming:

-Now, we've all heard the media idiots. Hot Coffee Mods, Mass Effect Sex Scenes, all things like that. What's strange is, while those types of people get their panties in a bunch over small sideboobs, there are MUCH worse. Heck, Illusion Soft alone fits the bill. They made RAPELAY, for god's sake.

And Yes, while those games never made it out of Japan, they still exist, and are easily available if you have the correct sources (So I've heard, anyway). Just why do you think those games are ignored? Is it just a simple case of "I don't see it, thus it doesn't exist", or what?

-When you think about it, one of the main things that can sell games, movies, and other media; is sex appeal. Heck, look at the Dead or Alive EXTREEEME Beach Volleyball games. Nobody buys it for the Volleyball, they buy it for the huge tits and near-nonexistent bikinis. Why do you think this is?

On the Topic of Non-360 things (I lack that system currently):

-We've been hearing about Left 4 Dead for ages now. I know some of you have played it (lucky bastards), and I'd like your opinions. Did the game live up to the hype when you played it? Or was there something in the relentless Zombie Horde that you didn't enjoy?

Man, that's more than I usually type.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:35
Sharpless
@Bioautographical
It was alleged VERBAL assault. So, this is only feasible if a microphone is implemented.

Also, can I have the $25?
hbcumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:38
hbcumber
Question:

Listening to Podtoid, I've noticed that a lot of the regulars have backgrounds in arts subjects. Hearing Tiff ironically saying how "PoMo" something is or people referencing Harold Bloom is scarily familiar (I'm doing English Lit. at Uni). I know Jim will probably call me a pretentious asshole for suggesting this but if we are to treat games as art, can we apply the same tools we use for looking at literature to games, albeit in some altered form?
RaiRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:43
RaiRed
Forget XBLA, has anyone played Siren: Blood Curse?
Beancup's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:49
Beancup
Question: With the announcement that GoW2 will have "cross game" achievements, do you think this will become a popular trend with other game publishers? Also, do you think people who don't bother with achievements will feel like they are being punished?
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:54
Bioautographical
@Sharpless

Christian Bale TOTALLY Patrick Bateman'd his mother. I watched him do it and he looked at me.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 18:03
Sharpless
@Bioautographical
False. If Christian Bale killed his mother and noticed you watching him, you would not be here today to make that comment. Heil Bail!
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 18:10
Bioautographical
@Sharpless

Well, he DID throw his chainsaw at me.

MISS!
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 18:20
Sharpless
@Bioautographical
Bale does not miss! BALE DOES NOT MISS~!
Dead Movie Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 18:23
Dead Movie Star
How do you feel about people on the internet getting totally pissed off by rumors? I can see unease in some folk but strong animosity towards a company before the rumor is confirmed or denied is kinda silly.

Was "animosity" pretentious enough for this podcast? Just checking.
n3rv3's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 19:23
n3rv3
do you think stereo type like Cole train in gear of are a good thing or should be taken out of games?
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 19:50
Puppy Licks
Why in the hell is sex such a panic-button in videogames anyway?

Sure you can have 200 games get through the gate which will let you maim and murder countless people, but if one game has a little bit of PG-13 level sex in it the moral vigilantes of the world are up in arms.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't sex kind of ESSENTIAL to us as a species?
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 19:55
Brian Keljore
I just want to start by letting Anthony know that he is not alone in his hatred of a sister. My younger sister just came by unannounced to drop off her dog who is in heat so she could go out to a comedy club... that bitch.

I was going to write a monthly musing about my personally favorite character from the "All heroes must be angst ridden fucks" era, Raziel, but I got caught up with this whole trying to get a job nonsense.

As for the topic of sex in gaming, I am strongly of the opinion that it should be no bigger of a deal than sex in movies. It can be seen as a facet of the great game violence debate. Personally, I found this article about the film "Dark Knight" an interesting insight into the whole subject. Do you feel that as long as games are not perceived as art, they will be given harsher ratings than movies with similar content?

Also, when will people stop diverting responsibility from the parents?
ScreamingScarab's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 20:12
ScreamingScarab
Where can I find a not R4 before they are outlawed completely?
eYak's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 20:50
eYak
Sex with videogames! Excellent! Oh.. that was sex in videogames? Shit. I got nothing.
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 21:19
smurfee mcgee
Will there be a D-toid XNA game? created by us and yous?

Bonus question: Why are there 500 MS points on my account that I didn't purchase?
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