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This is usually the part where I promise there won't be any technical difficulties in this week's Podtoid. After last week, however, I've come to understand that something will go wrong with Podtoids I host no matter goddamn what. What do you have to look forward to, gentle listener? Glitchy stereo audio? Massive delays? Odd pitching problems that make Linde sound like Barry White? Your guess is as good as mine. Head to the official Podtoid page, give it a listen, and send me the usual irritated emails pointing out what I need to fix.

This week, Aaron Linde, Daniel "Husky" Lingen, Jim Sterling and I discussed 2007 -- now generally referred to as the "best year ever" for videogaming -- in between numerous jabs at Jeff Minter and convoluted (but efficient) metaphors for gaming in general. Topics of discussion include:

-The Games we Play - Jim accidentally buys GH3, and Space Giraffe: Irritating and pretentious, or really irritating and pretentious?

-Was 2007 indeed the "best year ever" for videogaming? - Linde commits PC sacrilege, Husky is a sk8er

-If 2007 was the best year ever for videogaming, what the hell do we have to look forward to in 2008? - Just delayed stuff, mainly

And, of course, reader questions. This week's best discussion came from Sharpless, even though I sort of summarized and misinterpreted his original question. Either way, buddy, you've won 25 bucks, so don't hassle me about it. 

[The intro/outro song is "Once Again" by Girl Talk.]








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Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 09:50
Bob Muir
Making Linde sound like Barry White would actually be pretty awesome.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 09:58
Cheeburga
<33
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 09:59
GrayFox
SPACE GIRAFFE SUCKS!!!
tentaclesex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:10
tentaclesex
...says the professor of giraffeology. :)
Justin Villasenor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:13
Justin Villasenor
I'm not used to Podtoid coming out so early in the day.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:18
Eschatos
Damnit, slowdown! I still haven't heard 35.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:19
AgentMOO
I almost want to buy space giraffe to see how bad it is, but the money would just go to black tar heroin for Jeff Minter.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:22
GrayFox
It's actually really good (to me) and a part of me dies inside anytime I hear about how bad it is from this hardcore video game blog.

Something tells me these people didn't make it very far in the game.
tentaclesex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:28
tentaclesex
Yeah, it always feels like a real kick in the nads every time people dismiss SG. If you gave it a fair shake and it's just not your style, then fine. A lot of people will legitimately not like that kind of game.

If you do like action-packed abstract shooters that require skill and concentration, then it's brilliant once you get in the zone, and the game facilitates getting into the zone very quickly.

It's far deeper and more strategic than it appears at first glance, and once you get a handle on it it's not even super hard. It's far less punishing than Tempest 2K, that's for sure.

I think a lot of people are mistakenly letting the "blogosphere" make up their minds for them, which is a shame.

Like I said though, if you try it and you don't like it, that's fair. I don't like Bioshock and apparently it's the bee's knees. I won't say it's a big pile of crap just because it didn't stimulate me.
Dastardly007's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:35
Dastardly007
Lovin the new shows guys. I'd stopped listening to the old Podtoid for reasons I'll keep to myself but it is officially awesome again.

MOAR please
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:45
AgentMOO
@tentaclesex
Are you implying that instead of listening to the opinions of the Destructoid staff, we should listen to people who use the word blogosphere?
tentaclesex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:48
tentaclesex
@AgentMOO

You may have noticed the scare quotes there.

I think "blogosphere" is a terrible neologism. I actually still dislike "blog."
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:51
Jim Sterling
I just want to make Jeff Minter cry, the whiny hippy freak.
tentaclesex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 10:53
tentaclesex
@Jim Sterling:

Congrats on being an antisocial prick I guess.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 11:13
GrayFox
@ tenticlesex

Absolutely. It takes a little practice but once you get to know the "rules", for lack of a better term, the complexity and fun of the game is revealed. There is a learning curve involved and you won't be able to master it after playing it for 30 mins or an hour, unlike 99% of the games out there today, but if you do take that time to get the hang of it instead of immediately dismissing it as garbage it will be a very rewarding experience. I would think that any hardcore video game blog would appreciate it.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 11:43
Darren Nakamura
Dang, I'm barely listening to Podtoid 37 right now. I'm a whole week behind.
Daniel Husky Lingen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 11:48
Daniel Husky Lingen
Oh god

that picture
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 11:59
BluDesign
@GrayFox

As someone who totally digs the whole synthenesia concept, I have to disagree. This game IS a waste of money. I played it repeatedly for hours and it's just a punishment to slog through it and pretend you're having fun. I even bothered to figure out how to "play" the game by bulling and building up huge combos. Still not fun.

I made it up to like level 38 and I just gave up. It wasn't worth the effort to build up your score that high just to be taken out completely by some random fucking flower hitting you and then being a weak ass fucker again with a shitty score and a zeroed out multiplier.

I'll take REZ over SG any fucking day of the week.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 12:34
GrayFox
I could go on for paragraphs about this game, but who really cares, either you like it or you don't. All I will say is 2 things:

1) You can beat it and become good at it through a little trial and error. The game is very challenging but never unfairly so. I used to get my ass handed to me in the teens levels and now I can make it to level 50 without using a continue (many can beat all 100).

2) Calling it garbage is just plain ignorant. It may not be your kind of game, but it is not garbage.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 12:57
KMCC
Whatever Space Giraffe is, (personally I think it sucks, but GrayFox has a good point about simply liking it or not), there is no reason to say it is "pretentious". That seems too...generous somehow?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 13:43
Sharpless
Ooh, nice. I needed that pick-me-up. Thanks. How do I claim mah moneys?

AND I'M LONG-WINDED, DEAL WITH IT. :)
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 14:41
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain
GrayFox, I'm gonna have to side with DVDDesign here. I made it up to Level Fucking 72. I'm a master of pain, but the game is just too hard.

The levels spinning around? Shit jumping behind you and shooting you? The flowers becoming invincible? It's just too much.

And don't get me started about the I Love My 64 achievement. Spinning level? Blurred vision? Shit flying at you that you can't even see? I must have played for two hours trying to get it, and the best strategy was to spin around the edge and hope for the fucking best.

That being said, I still like the game. I wouldn't compare it to something like Rez though, which is actually fun to play.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 15:23
Topher Cantler
Please refer to RetroforceGO! episode 30 for my opinion on Space Giraffe.
Spartacus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 17:36
Spartacus
highlight of my day <3
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 18:17
Jim Sterling
I'm not antisocial. I have friends. Unlike Jeff Minter. Who has sheep.
Daniel Husky Lingen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 18:30
Daniel Husky Lingen
Sheep have just as much right to be your friend than people do.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 18:32
Sharpless
*cough* How do I claim the money? *cough*
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 19:41
Anthony Burch
GrayFox:
I don't absolutely hate the game -- like I said initially, I was willing to deal with a game whose ethos was "throw a bunch of shit at the player and force him to make sense of it." It's an unusual game mechanic, but I was willing to work through it.

As others have said, however, it becomes infuriating after the three or four hour mark. The gameplay itself is enjoyable, but the fact that Minter seems to take some fetishistic pleasure in actually obstructing gameplay with weird visuals and confusing enemy models to the point where I was constantly dying in unpredictable, irritating ways which impeded my ability to actually, like, play the game. I'm willing to deal with a bunch of random, psychadelic shit being thrown at me for a while, but not once it becomes so confusing and random that I die over and over and over again.

He admitted in the interview I mentioned during the show that he didn't intend the confusing visuals to actually make the gameplay hard to see, and didn't think that to be the main game mechanic (as Jonathan Blow would have you believe to be the case). In this sense, I can't help but enjoy certain aspects of SG, but become incredibly irritated and angered by others.

Sharpless:
What's your email address? I'll send you a message personally, or get Niero to do it and we can go from there.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2008 21:05
Sharpless
@Rev
matthewjsanderson(AT)gmail.com

I was going to just PM you, but... I can't?
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2008 01:25
Anthony Burch
Evidently we've had problems with people pretending to be contest winners and sending fradulent emails. That's what Ron tells me, anyway.
dprime's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2008 00:00
dprime
Give that British guy his own fucking show. If fact, seven of them.
R0xx1t's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2008 16:05
R0xx1t
@dprime:

8 is better: one for the monocle.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/17/2008 02:59
Fading Star
Cool.
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