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PlayStation 4 and Xbox 720: too early to talk about? photo

Forbes' Chris Morris says that it's "insanely early" to start talking about the next generation of videogame consoles. I agree, but that hasn't stopped anyone from talking about it here lately.

At E3 earlier this month, I heard the name "Xbox 720" dropped about a half a dozen times over the course of about a week. Of course, you have to throw about half of it out as speculative bullsh*t, but there has to be a reason why it's being mentioned so much lately.

One UK-based developer told us that he's heard some "pretty incredible things" about the upcoming console from his Microsoft UK contacts. That tells us absolutely nothing other than he's excited about something. We need more, people!

But, we're getting ahead of ourselves, it seems. Epic Games President Mike Capps says that we shouldn't expect the next next-gen until somewhere between 2012 and 2018. Wow, I hope my Xbox 360 lasts that long.

Brian Farrell, CEO of THQ, thinks there's still room for growth in the current gen. "Those engines have a lot of steam left in them. We think it could be seven or eight years before new machines start to roll out."

Of course, this doesn't mean that console makers aren't working on their next unit. Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata admits it. "We are always preparing for the next hardware," Iwata says. "We are under development." 

And Microsoft won't openly admit it, but from what we hear, they're already hard at work. And I'm sure Sony is, too. I don't know about you, but I don't think our current consoles have hit their peak yet. They're doing better things every day, on each console. I say take your time, Big Three. Give my bank account time to catch up.








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Dale North is Destructoid's Editor-In-Chief, a founding editor, and specialist in Japanese gaming. An accomplished musician, Dale was reporting from Japan during the earthquakes of 2011. Luckily, he got the fuck out alive and is home in America now with his wife and beloved corgi, Einstein. Dale is also a co-founder of Destructoid's sister anime site Japanator. Likes Corgis, Sega Saturn, PSP, iPhone, Photographic tools. Meet the rest of the team



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MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:00
MechaMonkey
It's just two Xbox 360s taped together.
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:00
Lightthrower
It's way too early for PS4 that's for sure, but 720? Remember that the first X-Box only had a 4 year run and also remember that the 360 has a 30% failure rate. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft will release their new console at the end of 2009.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:01
Alexradl
With constant firmware updates and new features being added all the time, I can see this generation lasting a lot longer than the previous generations. I don't see any reason to talk about the next generation, I'm pretty happy with the current generation. In a couple years I'll be speculating with everyone else.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:01
HarassmentPanda
I don't think we're anywhere near a PS4 yet, but a new Xbox doesn't seem that far fetched. My problem is that I'm not ready for a new Xbox in the foreseeable future. Even though I've owned my 360 for nearly 3 years, I still feel like the console is a work in progress.

The dashboard is being changed, the kinks of digital distribution are still being worked out, we're still waiting on a "stable" iteration of the hardware, and we've yet to see any truly revolutionary advances in gameplay. Hell, the talk of a potential 360 motion controller even makes the system sound like an experiment.

I've had a lot of fun with my 360 and have enjoyed it more than any other console this generation, but the prospect of an "Xbox 720" makes me look back at the last few years and realize that I feel like I just took part in an expensive beta test. Is this a result of a transitional period in gaming or is it because gaming expenses now come from my pocket instead of that of my parents?
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:04
aaronf
I don't think Sony or MS have much to gain by revealing plans for their next gen consoles right now. The PS3 is just now starting to gain some steam, and MS still needs to keep their focus on repairing RROD 360s to try to get as much consumer confidence as they can.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:05
king3vbo
It should be a while, the consoles we have now still have life in them
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:10
Rockvillian
This generation should have plenty of steam to go on for another 5-6 years, if they wise up a little. It'll help them I think to stop trying to sell this gen as NEXTGENFUTUREAWESOME with every single brown game with bloom effects, and just make some great games that use the hardware's weaknesses and strengths.
cleopatrudo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:47
cleopatrudo
I hope MS learned their lesson from last gen...
Sterling Aiayla Lyons's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 11:53
Sterling Aiayla Lyons
Sony: I think i wrote a blog about a rumor I heard. Something about cameras, headsets, gloves maybe. Anyhow, don't expect the PS4 for a good 6-10 years.

MS: I wouldn't be suprised. I'd say they'll reveal a new console in 2 years, release it for that holiday season. Fails to make a large enough jump from the current gen to warrant purchase. Will become the "Vista" of the Xboxes. Everyone(with a 360) will upgrade though because MS has always had planned each 360 system to fail at a certain time*cough*RRoD*cough*, but unfortunately for them(or maybe just for us), a good chunk of the consoles failed prematurely. When the new Xbox is released, 360s worldwide will start having RRoDs en masse.

Nintendo: Oh, they have one. They made sure to be prepared after the Gamecube. If it wasn't for the commercial success of the Wii, they would have released it already. Depending one when people stop buying Wiis, this system will either be a "generation" ahead, or a "generation" behind.


P.S. Aside from my speculation on Sony's plan, all of the stuff i just wrote I pulled out of my ass. As far as I know, the PS4 speculation could be out of someone elses ass.
JohnConnor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 12:05
JohnConnor
I agree, we are not even close to being prepared for next gen consoles. You made a good point at the end of the article Dale, slow down. I think the 360 has a lot of life left in it, but Microsoft is overambitious. I would expect to see a new console from them before 2012. Developers have yet to even tap the true potential of the PS3, so I would guess they're lifespan to be much longer before they consider a new console.

Nintendo could make one next week if they wanted to...and we would all buy it. Those guys shit cash.
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 12:11
parrothead
I agree, I need a rest from buying consoles, so I can buy games. Now that some really good ones are coming out.
DarkTetsuya's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 12:25
DarkTetsuya
Well, at this point I'm sure sony misses being able to charge $699 for a new console so ... why not?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 12:45
Sharpless
I wonder which ones will fuck it up, next gen.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 12:55
adultswim810
i think im the only person who actually believes in the 10 year life span
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 13:03
Bob Muir
I'll be curious to see how long the current consoles last, since the usual life span before introducing a new console is five years. I'm sure Nintendo will be right on target as usual with a new console (hopefully on-par with current technology, unlike the Wii), but it's Microsoft and Sony who seem like they'll have some trouble. The 360 could easy take the "long bow out" approach like the PS2, since it has such a strong library and install base, but the way Microsoft dropped all support for the Xbox left a bad taste in my mouth. Meanwhile, Sony keeps saying the PS3 will last 10 years, but with the usual five year life cycle, it's going to be quickly outdated, making me wonder if we'll see the PS4 on the usual schedule, never allowing the PS3 to live up to its full potential.

Ah, speculation. How pointless it all is in the long run.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 14:32
mix
I do hope we get more than 5 years out of the current systems as for the PS3, in my eyes, has both the potential to gain that much more but I also believe that it needs the extra time to become pure win.

Nintendo will have something new out soon as well as they do that, lots.

It would suck if MS brought out a new system in '09 but I could almost see it happening.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 15:39
Batthink
Yes, it's way, way, WAY too early to starting thinking about new systems. I mean, unless they have a way of porting Live/PSN details, allowing games to be backwards-compatable, why bother?

Try pushing the hardware a bit more.
braulio09's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 17:28
braulio09
2012-2018 sounds fucking awesome. seriously, i don't think i'm prepared to spend another 1200 bucks on new consoles when the current ones haven't been fully exploited.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/31/2008 07:28
Anus Mcphanus
I think we are a long way off from actually seeing the next generation of consoles especially when they are selling well and the companies are still adding in all these new features.
That being said technology is always being driven forward so who knows what they all have up their sleeves
groebo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/31/2008 16:14
groebo
we are just now starting to see games on the xbox that can do half of what they should really be able to do... we havn't even seen that much with the PS3 yet... Wii is in its own little world so I could care less when they update that but considering that they are just now coming out with one or two decent games, they should have a while before they come out with a new game...

I hope they wait... with updates available and power to explore with both major units, i'd say keep them coming with minor updates for better hardware performance every couple of years or so... otherwise... 6 years sounds good...
flashbak's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2008 10:12
flashbak
It would be nice if developers were given the time to actually wring out every ounce of power from these machines rather than having to start over learning a new base. I know it was a very very long time ago but there used to be a time when developers would actually work magic using the existing hardware instead of developing for that "next" big thing. The Xbox was just hitting it's stride when the 360 was forced on us and the ps2 apparently is still getting new games.

Personally I hope whoever decides to come out with a new console in a year or two loses their shirts and the gamers reject them unequivocably.
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