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The PlayStation 3's Cell processor must really be something. The US government wants to use them, they're powering cutting-edge medical research, and now they're being used to simulate black hole physics.

Astrophysicist Gaurav Khanna has stacked 16 PlayStation 3 consoles together to form a supercomputer that is being used to simulate the activity of large black holes for the Physics Department at the University of Massachusetts. Register Hardware says that these 16 stock PS3 systems, loaded with Linux and networked with a simple Gigabit Ethernet switch, give the same processing power as a 400-node supercomputer.

"Overall, a single PS3 performs better than the highest-end desktops available and compares to as many as 25 nodes of an IBM Blue Gene supercomputer," Khanna said.

You can hit up the PlayStation 3 Gravity Grid Web page for the full details. 

What are they going to use the PS3 for next? Can they make more games with it too? Please?








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Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 10:45
Y0j1mb0
Yes..games would be nice.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 10:47
F Whipple
What they don't tell you is that to create the black hole all 16 PS3's must simultaneously play Talladega Nights with the spanish subtitles on.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 10:55
Jetsetlemming
Oh come the fuck on. Given the added expensive of a PS3 to a typical computing platform due to the Blu-ray drive, licensing of associated software, and limited focus of the hardware, wouldn't it be more cost efficient to just get a goddamn super computer or two? Not to mention 16 PS3s would only have 4 GB RAM total between the collection.
The equivalent value of 16 PS3s can afford you far more processing power in conventional computers. At the latest SKU's prices, that's what, $8000?
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 10:59
hjd uk
Its funny how PS£s are being used by scientists and professors and hobbyists for their research and out-there / eclectic projects cos thats exacly how it feels like working with one.
Its a great number cruncher, a user/developer friendly games-console? Notsomuch.

The dev-kits are Rack-Mountable, they should have tried to score some of those. They weigh a ton tho.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:00
Jetsetlemming
I mean, really. I could even see if the guy had stripped the Cells out of the PS3s and stuck them in a proper super computer with the required memory and accessability, but just wiring together 16 normal PS3s?
Blargh. Government money well wasted.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:01
MechaMonkey
How much do you want to bet that Sony is doing some "hush-hush" marketing to groups like this.

I find it a little ridiculous, honestly. I sincerely doubt that shelling out the same sort of dough can't get you a supercomputer or two to do the same exact thing.
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:06
hjd uk
Sony could make a SuperComputerNode sku that does away with the Blu-Ray, gfx-card and replaces the HDD with some extra on-board-memory. Cost half as much and could sell em to unis / research facilies etc. Think they're missing something here :)
Pagster's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:16
Pagster
Makes sense to me. Calculate black hole collisions during the day then 16 player TF2 on your breaks.

sweet
danpowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:16
danpowered
LESS USELESS GEEK STUFF, MORE SOUNDGARDEN KTHX
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:19
Holyetheline
That's awesome. The PS3 is some sort of digital hulk.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:33
MrSadistic
That is the greatest use of a Soundgarden video. Ever.
BlackSheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:46
BlackSheep
this is the true reason why blu-ray players were outselling hd-dvd :P
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:47
Boolean
Surely this can't be cost effective. This makes no sense.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:48
Brian Szabelski
More games, plz, k thx, Sony.
Sam Spectre's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:48
Sam Spectre
More games for the PS3 would be nice...

Good use of Soundgarden indeed.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:48
Corak
Quoted for emphasis
"They should have asked the supercomputer-dtoid-community-experts. they know way more about supercomputers than scientists."

I'm no expert on the price of a super computer but something tells me that I'm sure they looked into it thorughly and this was the most cost effective choice while still being an effective use of processing power. Universities, unlike the government, have a more limited budget. If they can use these to further research into any field then whats the fn problem?
Klytus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 11:56
Klytus
what a coincidence, I just used 16 Wii's to simulate a PS3.
glitched's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 12:01
glitched
Also Quoted for emphasis
"They should have asked the supercomputer-dtoid-community-experts. they know way more about supercomputers than scientists."

And if you seriously think you can get a super computer for the same price as 16 PS3's you have no idea.

We just ordered a Dell poweredge server for twice the price of 16 PS3's and it would crumble and burn as a supercomputer.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 12:06
MaxVest
Does anyone have more money to burn than those high-falutin' government scientists? Wastrels.
silentstrike27's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 12:21
silentstrike27
Yeah, it would cost around $8000 dollars, but that is to own the "supercomputer". He has said in other articles that to do the same kind of simulation, it would cost him up to $5000 PER RUN on a typical supercomputer like Blue Gene.
weedgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 13:01
weedgan
I wonder what they did with all the copies of spider-man 3.
Ritalin Twitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 13:52
Ritalin Twitch
What, no fanboys jumping in on the fact that they are using a chain of PS3s to simulate something that sucks so badly nothing can escape from it?

Im kinda dissapointed.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 14:27
Quest
@ all M$ fanboys

imagine 16 xbox 360 ... with RROD ... ;)
Ronsauce's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 14:40
Ronsauce
Hahaha...this article was good for a laugh. PS3 more powerful than the highest-end desktops available? Shit...that's good stuff.. Whew!
Crumpet Lips's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:18
Crumpet Lips
This story is like 2 months old

o.0

Still cool though
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 16:57
Samit Sarkar
For some reason, I thought they were using them to count the holes in Blackburn, Lancashire...I believe the number they came up with was 4,000...
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 18:11
TheDirtyHobo
"Hahaha...this article was good for a laugh. PS3 more powerful than the highest-end desktops available? Shit...that's good stuff.. Whew!"

Find me a desktop with the same or better specs for 600 bucks.

Seriously, if you can do that, I'll buy it. I need a new PC. It doesn't even have to have a monitor with it, to be fair since the PS3 doesn't have a free TV with it.

This article makes me want to get 16 PS3s so I can go simulate my own black holes.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2008 19:42
Crunshii
actually Ronsauce,

my friend has a custom 8core system with a nvidia geForce 8600 GTS, 4g of ram, 800mhz bus, 500 sata hdd with directX n all, and still doesn't number crunch folding@home as fast as the ps3, (5 hour difference). Yea it might run Crysis better cuz of DirectX, but CoD4 still looks better and sharper in the PS3 viewed in a 40" 1080p Samsung LCDTV. the PS3 was released late 2006, its early 2008 just to take note.

So to go back to the OP title, for $400 you cannot get a high performance machine anywhere cept the PS3 and a RRoD360.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/06/2008 02:18
Burnt Meatloaf
The reason why the PS3 is gaining popularity as a supercomputing platform is because the Cell processor isn't being provided to manufacturers as an OEM part. I've heard a number of people in this industry complain that they can't get the Cell chip itself in a form factor that they need. The whole trick to supercomputer design is to manage the volume of bus logic and power distribution. Cell really isn't being pushed in that direction very well at all.

Reminds me of that supercomputer that was made up of a few hundred Macs (!) Why not just get a bunch of POWER boards together? Well, I guess if Apple is going to sponsor the machine it makes sense, but that's not what's going on with the PS3. :)
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/06/2008 18:53
HarassmentPanda
Sony's got to love the stories like this... PS3s being used for research that will never have games purchased. So much for making up the loss on game sales.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/06/2008 20:02
Bob Muir
Is anyone else concerned that scientists are messing with black holes now? I read that one group actually created a very small one that died very quickly. All it takes is one screw-up for that black hole to get out of control and start consuming everything around it. Leave well enough alone, just so I can sleep at night, please?
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