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@ StingingVelvet -
Have you properly cited the source of your avatar anywhere in you comment?
That's plagarism, if not outright theft of copyrighted material right there. The same applies to the music in AMVs on youtube and any humerous pictures that you may have posted without mentioning the site from which you recieved the pictures. So stop being high and mighty, you may have a moral high ground here, but in a real world setting posting an image that you do not own the rights to (you Avatar) next to a published comment is automatically plagarism.
Have you properly cited the source of your avatar anywhere in you comment?
That's plagarism, if not outright theft of copyrighted material right there. The same applies to the music in AMVs on youtube and any humerous pictures that you may have posted without mentioning the site from which you recieved the pictures. So stop being high and mighty, you may have a moral high ground here, but in a real world setting posting an image that you do not own the rights to (you Avatar) next to a published comment is automatically plagarism.
I think also maybe people are tired of ace attorney games theres so many of them the retailer wants to spend there money on something diff rather than the same exact game with slightly diff cases.
So it's ‡H. Still not quite sure how to make it.
I'm a little annoyed at his anti-mainstream. It's his right, but distributing something everyone loves to everyone who loves it strikes me as inherently better than distributing something a few people love in a way that many of them can't access it.
I haven't had the opportunity to check yet, but if he hasn't even put his music on itunes I'm going to be really disappointed. The real cost of the songs are like a dollar a piece not including the value of the game on it's own in it's home currency, so I would at least like to be able to buy the soundtracks at twenty dollars a piece considering that's how much the whole game costs (I believe).
I'm a little annoyed at his anti-mainstream. It's his right, but distributing something everyone loves to everyone who loves it strikes me as inherently better than distributing something a few people love in a way that many of them can't access it.
I haven't had the opportunity to check yet, but if he hasn't even put his music on itunes I'm going to be really disappointed. The real cost of the songs are like a dollar a piece not including the value of the game on it's own in it's home currency, so I would at least like to be able to buy the soundtracks at twenty dollars a piece considering that's how much the whole game costs (I believe).
Edit:
The previous comment was directed at Oryharakestrel. I thought when I copied the (9) it would be obvious, but I got a ‡H instead.
The previous comment was directed at Oryharakestrel. I thought when I copied the (9) it would be obvious, but I got a ‡H instead.
I'd like to applaud Hcapt for spearing StingingVelvet on a glorious technicality. I applaud you sir.
@Shael
I have the right to have the hobby I want, if I choose games, then games it is.
It's not about affording it. I'm able to buy games with the job I have, but that doesn't mean I'll buy a game that costs twice over here. Just because you have an asshole, doesn't mean that you have to love being fucked in the ass.
Try to walk a little bit under my shoes, what would you do? If people have all the conditions to get games at a decent price in the US and yet they still pirate games, do I have to pay twice more for a game that isn't being released officially in my country and doesn't even have my native language? Do you think that's right?
Is not whining. People in other countries doesn't have the same resources and conditions as people in the US have and yet, we have to pay even more for the same product?
Videogames might be a privilege, but it doesn't have to be a fucking luxury.
Piracy is wrong, overpricing is wrong too, I´m just saying that.
I have the right to have the hobby I want, if I choose games, then games it is.
It's not about affording it. I'm able to buy games with the job I have, but that doesn't mean I'll buy a game that costs twice over here. Just because you have an asshole, doesn't mean that you have to love being fucked in the ass.
Try to walk a little bit under my shoes, what would you do? If people have all the conditions to get games at a decent price in the US and yet they still pirate games, do I have to pay twice more for a game that isn't being released officially in my country and doesn't even have my native language? Do you think that's right?
Is not whining. People in other countries doesn't have the same resources and conditions as people in the US have and yet, we have to pay even more for the same product?
Videogames might be a privilege, but it doesn't have to be a fucking luxury.
Piracy is wrong, overpricing is wrong too, I´m just saying that.
People need to stop assuming piracy is a victimless crime. But as long as they can justify it to themselves there is little anyone can do. Normally this is where I would say something 2% of the people would find funny, but I got nothing.
*Hides pirated version of Ace Attorney* Oh what were you gentlemen talking about? Pirating? Ha! I don't even know how to spell pirating. See I spelled it wrong... I think. I'm an honest game buyer. I buy my games except if they're on the DS. Anything except on the DS. There are too many crap on the DS to even bother trying to buy. Seriously. I bought a few games and was disappointed that I wasted 30$ for this kind of shit. When I got TWEWY however, for those of you who know the game, I wished I'd bought it.See the thing is, I download to see if the game was worth the 30 $ or not, and when I'm done playing it well then... I'm done. I think the lack of demos for the DS and Wii are mainly why there are so many pirates.
@Moloks, and a lesser extent @stayambiguous
So if my hobby is stalking people, I have a right to it??
Just because the hobby that you've arbitrarily chosen is gaming does not give you the right to break the law.
You can pirate all you want, but you are the problem, regardless of your justification, or the fact you live in an expensive part of the world.
Games costing $200 in your territory does not give you free reign to pirate.
Not having enough money to afford all the games on the market does not give you free reign to pirate.
Boohooing about someone walking in your shoes on a website does not give you free reign to pirate.
Being a fucking douche with no integrity, thats what you need to pirate at will, and it appears you at least achieve that.
The sense of entitlement amazes me. I can't afford it, so I deserve it for free. Where the fuck did you get that from??
Again, I'm not saying you cant pirate, but if you think thats your right, you need a fucking reality check.
So if my hobby is stalking people, I have a right to it??
Just because the hobby that you've arbitrarily chosen is gaming does not give you the right to break the law.
You can pirate all you want, but you are the problem, regardless of your justification, or the fact you live in an expensive part of the world.
Games costing $200 in your territory does not give you free reign to pirate.
Not having enough money to afford all the games on the market does not give you free reign to pirate.
Boohooing about someone walking in your shoes on a website does not give you free reign to pirate.
Being a fucking douche with no integrity, thats what you need to pirate at will, and it appears you at least achieve that.
The sense of entitlement amazes me. I can't afford it, so I deserve it for free. Where the fuck did you get that from??
Again, I'm not saying you cant pirate, but if you think thats your right, you need a fucking reality check.
"Pirating music really is just as bad, folks."
If the ghost of Carl Sagan says it, it must be true. I hate to admit it but I pirated this game. I plan on buying it when I have the money! I just don't right now and I was really anxious to play it. :(
If the ghost of Carl Sagan says it, it must be true. I hate to admit it but I pirated this game. I plan on buying it when I have the money! I just don't right now and I was really anxious to play it. :(
@Blacksun
So if I go out and buy a used copy of like MW2 for 55 bucks at Gamestop does that make me better or worse morally to you?
So if I go out and buy a used copy of like MW2 for 55 bucks at Gamestop does that make me better or worse morally to you?
QQ, pirating music is ok for everyone, but when it is a game all the media fags loose their minds. Pirating has been around for a while, the PS and PS2 both consoles were exploitable as fuck and yet they succeeded and so did their library.
So don't get me wrong, i understand how this affects developers, but everyone seems to make a big outcry about it.
So don't get me wrong, i understand how this affects developers, but everyone seems to make a big outcry about it.
funny i was just reading a riveting article on this over at http://www.tweakguides.com/Piracy_1.html
here are some interesting graphs taken from the article
here are some interesting graphs taken from the article
Seriously FUCK ANYBODY who pirates this game and gives no money top the developers on this one. This series NEEDS sales in order to keep a float and I'm surprised it's even had this many sequels to be quite honest when looking at sales.
Pirating music = pirating movies = pirating TV shows and taking away from ad ratings = pirating video games = stealing a product from a store.
@Shoop
I don't care, as far as I know buying used games isn't against the law. What about lending games to your mates?? Morally I don't give a shit.
I don't morally give a shit about other people pirating. Not so into it myself.
But I do draw the line at people telling me it's their right, or their entitlement. That is morally reprehensible.
I don't care, as far as I know buying used games isn't against the law. What about lending games to your mates?? Morally I don't give a shit.
I don't morally give a shit about other people pirating. Not so into it myself.
But I do draw the line at people telling me it's their right, or their entitlement. That is morally reprehensible.
This thread is humorously full of justifications for piracy. No one here thinks piracy is good, but everyone here thinks that there is a justification for at least one type of piracy. And I find even more humerous the lack of repeats; almost every individual's condition for when piracy is o.k. has at least a slight but distinct difference than everyone elses reason. I think you guys represent the problem with stopping piracy well: it's not a single mindset that is the root of piracy. It is the collective notion of what is and is not acceptable that presents itself before us that demonstrates as a whole the damage of piracy. Your individual strict moral guidelines concerning what is and is not acceptible combine into the largescale theft of copyrighted material that becomes the centeral evil in the discussion at hand.
Incidently, used games sales are easy to morally rationalize. Once the publisher sells you a copy of a game, like a book or any other collectors item the publish forfeits the right to that particular copy. Once you sell the game, you forfeit the right to that particular copy as well. Thus, the end result is that the publisher sells as many games as the number of people who want to keep (and not sell) the games the publishers make. In fact, you could argue that the vendetta against used game sales is morally objectionable, because it ruins the collectors value of the game while also creating an artificial demand for the new, better versions of the game which places more copies into the market than the market wants.
Remember, every used game sale represents a game that the previous owner never wants to play again. And if real life were Econ 101, each new game sold represents, eventually, a new customer that will never part with the game. Maybe not the first customer or the second, but eventually equilibrium will be reached when the number of copies of games in a market equals the number of people who will never want to sell the game, and the vendetta against used games within the industry is ruining that equilibrium.
Incidently, used games sales are easy to morally rationalize. Once the publisher sells you a copy of a game, like a book or any other collectors item the publish forfeits the right to that particular copy. Once you sell the game, you forfeit the right to that particular copy as well. Thus, the end result is that the publisher sells as many games as the number of people who want to keep (and not sell) the games the publishers make. In fact, you could argue that the vendetta against used game sales is morally objectionable, because it ruins the collectors value of the game while also creating an artificial demand for the new, better versions of the game which places more copies into the market than the market wants.
Remember, every used game sale represents a game that the previous owner never wants to play again. And if real life were Econ 101, each new game sold represents, eventually, a new customer that will never part with the game. Maybe not the first customer or the second, but eventually equilibrium will be reached when the number of copies of games in a market equals the number of people who will never want to sell the game, and the vendetta against used games within the industry is ruining that equilibrium.
@Hcapt that isn't the way that it works either you don't own anything or you own the data completely, there is no, "he publish forfeits the right to that particular copy." that isn't the way that IP works, when you buy a game you are buying a worthless piece of plastic and the company still owns the game and can tell you what you can and can't do with it including personally continuing to own it. Personally I see piracy as something that you live with one way or the other and for you or anyone else to make up your own rules about the way copyright works just proves why copyright is broken and needs to die and that is that the core laws that govern ownership make no sense. The fact of the matter is that if you pirate games, who cares- go ahead and pirate all you want but if you pirate knowing that you have the money to spend and would rather get it for free then you need to re-evaluate your morals and decisions. If you don't have the money or didn't intend to buy it then it is in no way $ that was lost to the publisher, the fact of the matter is that I used to pirate PC games a lot, I would play all kinds of stuff but I went console because I became agitated with upgrade paths and sitting at the desk(and ps3 for that matter) so I only play legit games, I theoretically could hack my wii but the games are cheap enough that I don't really care- last year I made about 30% of what I did the previous year so I don't have a lot of expendable income but I can afford to drop $10 when a game goes on sale so I do.
Hey. Maybe I don't want many DS games. You know the last big game I bought? Rhythm Heaven. Before that? Final Fantasy Tactics 2. Still playing both. The DS is not my main console.
I played NSMB for over a year. I beat it 4 times. Rattle the piracy cage all you want but when I get a look at people I know who have R4's and such I see goofy nontitles that no one should ever buy. Why else would you have My Stop Smoking Coach or Imagine Babiez? People don't actually buy those games.
Also. R4 is the only way to get a copy of Game and Watch collection without shelling out $300 in Nintendo products for club nintendo points. No thanks.
I played NSMB for over a year. I beat it 4 times. Rattle the piracy cage all you want but when I get a look at people I know who have R4's and such I see goofy nontitles that no one should ever buy. Why else would you have My Stop Smoking Coach or Imagine Babiez? People don't actually buy those games.
Also. R4 is the only way to get a copy of Game and Watch collection without shelling out $300 in Nintendo products for club nintendo points. No thanks.
Blabla DS piracy. Everyone here has an R4 or similar flashcard for one thing or another and mostly moms and children own a DS over here. Not exactly the AA demographic. Hell, they offered me 25 eurocents for pretty much any DS game at the local used games gamestore. They do love some Wii Sports though...
Also, nobody here buys their new games locally if they are in their right mind. Import for profit!
Also, nobody here buys their new games locally if they are in their right mind. Import for profit!
[Rant mode with some inappropriate text and spelling] Those Bastards. I come from Holland and I'm getting screwed all the time with ace attorney games. First the many release dates for T&T they didn't make. than that Apollo came before T&T. Than wait for a eternity for T&T for a full priced nitsh. And now this. NO WONDER THAT THIS GAME WILL BE ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED IN THIS REGION.
I mostly blame the publishers for bad decisions than downloading.
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I mostly blame the publishers for bad decisions than downloading.
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@ Professor Pew - I find it facinating that R4 cards and importing are so popular. Are games that expensive?
@ whormongr - 1. People take you more seriously when you break up sentences with paragraphs.
2. You are probably the 2nd worst kind of pirate according to the internet, the one in the greatest violation of the collective opinions of all the minor-league pirates in this thread. the worst kind of pirate is naturally the one who distributes it though.
3. First sale doctrine covers video games. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine
4. The only things that are sold are those that can be profitted from. If copyright law were to change such that nothing had protection and everything was free, then the United States would have the same problems developing domestic IP as China - our companies can only afford to produce because someone foots the bill. In the extreme case, entertainment would dip to the quality that free entertainment is today - fanfictions, youtube videos (minus the ones that have a copyright attached), and flash-level games. Things that people make for free. No one has more to lose from destruction of copyright protection than the career pirate, because he only pirates things that cost money, and things that cost money are only created because the copyright enables the creator to make money on his work.
Put simply, if all games are free, all we get are free games. And there are not very many good free games.
@ whormongr - 1. People take you more seriously when you break up sentences with paragraphs.
2. You are probably the 2nd worst kind of pirate according to the internet, the one in the greatest violation of the collective opinions of all the minor-league pirates in this thread. the worst kind of pirate is naturally the one who distributes it though.
3. First sale doctrine covers video games. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine
4. The only things that are sold are those that can be profitted from. If copyright law were to change such that nothing had protection and everything was free, then the United States would have the same problems developing domestic IP as China - our companies can only afford to produce because someone foots the bill. In the extreme case, entertainment would dip to the quality that free entertainment is today - fanfictions, youtube videos (minus the ones that have a copyright attached), and flash-level games. Things that people make for free. No one has more to lose from destruction of copyright protection than the career pirate, because he only pirates things that cost money, and things that cost money are only created because the copyright enables the creator to make money on his work.
Put simply, if all games are free, all we get are free games. And there are not very many good free games.
@BlackSunEmpire
If a game isn't licensed, registered and actively protected by the owning company in that country, its not piracy. There are international laws which bar these kinds of blanket claims.
The international community doesn't seriously expect street cops to inspect software vendors for pirated material. Any higher than that and you're talking organized piracy which is a different case.
If a game isn't licensed, registered and actively protected by the owning company in that country, its not piracy. There are international laws which bar these kinds of blanket claims.
The international community doesn't seriously expect street cops to inspect software vendors for pirated material. Any higher than that and you're talking organized piracy which is a different case.
@ Maniac
That actually makes me feel a lot better. Zun not only doesn't actively protect his trademarks, he gives his fans complete usage over his characters. That is why you'll see a lot of this:
McRolled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh71hePR8Q
Marisa stole the Precious Thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0Pws5yd1I
Bad Apple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEUeWnV73U
(Touhou project stuff)
That actually makes me feel a lot better. Zun not only doesn't actively protect his trademarks, he gives his fans complete usage over his characters. That is why you'll see a lot of this:
McRolled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh71hePR8Q
Marisa stole the Precious Thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0Pws5yd1I
Bad Apple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEUeWnV73U
(Touhou project stuff)
Screw the pirates, they're probably the same people who complain the Ds/Wii have no interesting games. It's a damn shame though, that enough of the bastards could convince a publisher to not even try distributing the game though.
Me, I gave up on retail a long time ago. Too many times have I heard a game having a certain release date, only to go to my local Bestbuy that day and find out they meant "the day after" and that the release date was the day they "received their shipment." Only Amazon for me these days.
Me, I gave up on retail a long time ago. Too many times have I heard a game having a certain release date, only to go to my local Bestbuy that day and find out they meant "the day after" and that the release date was the day they "received their shipment." Only Amazon for me these days.
Actually, in a world without copyright touhou would reign supreme. Anyone who wants to know the limits of fanworks should type "U.N. Owen was Her" in youtube - there are several hundred different remixes. Adauchisan has 160 of them in a playlist - http://www.youtube.com/user/Adauchisan#p/c/062118B8094CF469
It's all pretty awesome, but it's also many, relatively low budget endeavors, no one of which equalling the original but combined creating a much larger fanbase than possible with the game alone.
Touhou is a barometer for probably the maximum that can be done without copyright law. I just wish that Zun would work on bigger games with larger budgets and more mainstream appeal; he has enough talent to replace Myamoto if he wanted, and a legion of fans who are professional level programmers and artists. The only thing lacking is an interest in making a game for the masses. But that's not going to happen.
It's all pretty awesome, but it's also many, relatively low budget endeavors, no one of which equalling the original but combined creating a much larger fanbase than possible with the game alone.
Touhou is a barometer for probably the maximum that can be done without copyright law. I just wish that Zun would work on bigger games with larger budgets and more mainstream appeal; he has enough talent to replace Myamoto if he wanted, and a legion of fans who are professional level programmers and artists. The only thing lacking is an interest in making a game for the masses. But that's not going to happen.
@Maniac
I'm not arguing whether it is not illegal in some countries, and if you live in one of those countries good for you.
It still doesn't change the fact, that while able to pirate anything you want, the reality is that isn't something you are entitled to do. At the end off the day, it's something you choose to do, and something that the people who made the software would most likely prefer you didn't do.
I'm not arguing whether it is not illegal in some countries, and if you live in one of those countries good for you.
It still doesn't change the fact, that while able to pirate anything you want, the reality is that isn't something you are entitled to do. At the end off the day, it's something you choose to do, and something that the people who made the software would most likely prefer you didn't do.
i live in the netherlands and some shops even sell ds systems including a r4 card.
they even advertise that you can play downloaded games on it.
hence i even know some people that have a ds and have no clue that there r4 is not a official part of nintendo products.
they even advertise that you can play downloaded games on it.
hence i even know some people that have a ds and have no clue that there r4 is not a official part of nintendo products.
at least a portion of the RGC downloads are disgruntled europeans who never got a release of that game!
@Hcapt
You have been refreshing this page far too often and your ranting sounds to me like you haven't been invited to any private trackers :P
"Back before the internet you simply did not have these issues."
You need to research more before trying to teach others.
You have been refreshing this page far too often and your ranting sounds to me like you haven't been invited to any private trackers :P
"Back before the internet you simply did not have these issues."
You need to research more before trying to teach others.
@moloks
As some one from latin america, I understand what you're saying, but it's still a lousy excuse, why don't you buy the games from play-asia? or is paying shipping totally unfair for you also?
As some one from latin america, I understand what you're saying, but it's still a lousy excuse, why don't you buy the games from play-asia? or is paying shipping totally unfair for you also?
Being from Luxembourg, that's sad news for my friends back home :/
But usually you are able to get a German or french version of the game in some stores, so they're fine for now...
But usually you are able to get a German or french version of the game in some stores, so they're fine for now...
Wait a minute... Bowsers Inside Story was undownloadable... I thought that they had a fix to stop this? Why didn't they just apply the same security to this game?!?!?!
@ HCapt
Hey dumbass, I got this avatar from CD Projekt's site. They release avatars to promote their games you idiot.
As for youtube songs I only listen to singles, which the freaking record companies put up themselves 90% of the time and are promotions for the full album.
And just to jump in before you list other crap:
I have never downloaded a movie legally or illegally, I have never pirated a game period, I only downloaded pirated MP3s for like a week in 1999 and felt horrible about it and I even pay for porn on the rare occassion I want to see it.
So shut the fuck up.
Hey dumbass, I got this avatar from CD Projekt's site. They release avatars to promote their games you idiot.
As for youtube songs I only listen to singles, which the freaking record companies put up themselves 90% of the time and are promotions for the full album.
And just to jump in before you list other crap:
I have never downloaded a movie legally or illegally, I have never pirated a game period, I only downloaded pirated MP3s for like a week in 1999 and felt horrible about it and I even pay for porn on the rare occassion I want to see it.
So shut the fuck up.
I love HCapt. Always at the center of some shitstorm in the comment section.
And I almost always agree with him.
And I almost always agree with him.
*reads a good number of comments*
*gets a bit 'bored'*
I will say that I agree with the sentiment that if a game is out of print and the publishers/developers would not be making money from a purchase, then it's reasonable to pirate those titles, since they shouldn't be expecting to make money from them anyway. While this does nerf resellers (retail outlets like GameStop and personal vendors like eBay and Amazon Marketplace), if a game is particularly pricey to acquire, especially if you need older tech or the medium isn't reasonable to play on (I namely have batteries in mind), then pirating is the easiest way to get the games to actually play.
I'd also support the "I bought the game and kept it in good, unused condition" angle, especially nowadays when there are so many collector's edition and stuff that you'd want to keep tidy (not that that stopped me from opening that metallic Crisis Core or marking my FFXII discs). Think of it as retroactive Digital Copy, though this practice does skew download numbers, and thus could discourage developers even if you gave them your monies.
Back to the first point, though, I suppose it wouldn't be bad if you got yourself a physical copy just to say that someone, somewhere, got paid for providing a game to someone (as long as it's not a pirate copy itself; some GBA games' labels are so painfully pirated, though, yeesh...).
*gets a bit 'bored'*
I will say that I agree with the sentiment that if a game is out of print and the publishers/developers would not be making money from a purchase, then it's reasonable to pirate those titles, since they shouldn't be expecting to make money from them anyway. While this does nerf resellers (retail outlets like GameStop and personal vendors like eBay and Amazon Marketplace), if a game is particularly pricey to acquire, especially if you need older tech or the medium isn't reasonable to play on (I namely have batteries in mind), then pirating is the easiest way to get the games to actually play.
I'd also support the "I bought the game and kept it in good, unused condition" angle, especially nowadays when there are so many collector's edition and stuff that you'd want to keep tidy (not that that stopped me from opening that metallic Crisis Core or marking my FFXII discs). Think of it as retroactive Digital Copy, though this practice does skew download numbers, and thus could discourage developers even if you gave them your monies.
Back to the first point, though, I suppose it wouldn't be bad if you got yourself a physical copy just to say that someone, somewhere, got paid for providing a game to someone (as long as it's not a pirate copy itself; some GBA games' labels are so painfully pirated, though, yeesh...).
"So screw you Nintendo for making your consoles so easy to hack."
I hope this was sarcasm. Especially because the DS isn't being "hacked".
I hope this was sarcasm. Especially because the DS isn't being "hacked".
The fact is that piracy is a problem, game companies need to work this out by themselves, Sony just did that with the PS3 in this generation instead of Nintendo, who developed systems incredibly easy to be hacked and then go whining at the goverment, like they are doing here in Brazil.
Having some form of distribution is also part of the solution, if there's no official distribution around here, means the games market doesn't exist, some games store owners import the games by themselves and feel the right to charge as much as they want for them.
Nintendo needs to bring their products officially to Brazil (like they did in the SNES/N64 era) so a small part of this problem can be solved, I think everyone as a gamer would rather have an original game with box, manual and everything instead of a damn pirated disc which comes in a fucking paper sleeve.
@BlackSunEmpire
Well, if stalking people is your thing, then go for it, you may have to deal with it later, though.
I don't remember writing anywhere in my posts that I pirate games, I'm just fucking saying what happens around here. ONCE AGAIN, I'm saying I can afford the fucking games, man.
Me and my brother are constantly paying more for original blue-ray movies, games and accessories over the web, having to deal with shipping fees and with the crappy post office service, having no expectation to receive the games we've already bought and the risk of having the games "misplaced" by the PO.
I never said I deserve to play those games for free and I'm not saying I'm doing it, so stop talking out of your ass AND SHUT THE FUCK UP
@NESGamer
THIS
@Knives
Yes, games from Play-Asia are very cheap sometimes, I usually buy some cool stuff there, not just games and accessories, but some toys and japanese candy as well.
Having some form of distribution is also part of the solution, if there's no official distribution around here, means the games market doesn't exist, some games store owners import the games by themselves and feel the right to charge as much as they want for them.
Nintendo needs to bring their products officially to Brazil (like they did in the SNES/N64 era) so a small part of this problem can be solved, I think everyone as a gamer would rather have an original game with box, manual and everything instead of a damn pirated disc which comes in a fucking paper sleeve.
@BlackSunEmpire
Well, if stalking people is your thing, then go for it, you may have to deal with it later, though.
I don't remember writing anywhere in my posts that I pirate games, I'm just fucking saying what happens around here. ONCE AGAIN, I'm saying I can afford the fucking games, man.
Me and my brother are constantly paying more for original blue-ray movies, games and accessories over the web, having to deal with shipping fees and with the crappy post office service, having no expectation to receive the games we've already bought and the risk of having the games "misplaced" by the PO.
I never said I deserve to play those games for free and I'm not saying I'm doing it, so stop talking out of your ass AND SHUT THE FUCK UP
@NESGamer
THIS
@Knives
Yes, games from Play-Asia are very cheap sometimes, I usually buy some cool stuff there, not just games and accessories, but some toys and japanese candy as well.
Never played Retro Game Challenge, but I bought a brand new copy of every Ace Attorney game with the exception of the first one. None of the retailers around here even have Investigations, except maybe Gamestop. I had to go to estarland in VA to get it.
I did buy a used copy of Overkill though, so I guess I'm only a short step above the pirates. :P
I did buy a used copy of Overkill though, so I guess I'm only a short step above the pirates. :P
I'm going to avoid the shitstorm here and just say that the latest Penny Arcade updtae has an interesting comic and news post regarding piracy and the new EA internet-protection-thingy. Go check it out.
Pirates are the reason why good Wii games aren't selling? They were the ones that hurt sales for Retro Game Challenge?!
I have some choice words for those people, both before and after I break a foot off in their collective asses.
Goddamn bastards!
I have some choice words for those people, both before and after I break a foot off in their collective asses.
Goddamn bastards!
@StingingVelvet: You're not helping your point very much. Just because you felt guilty doesn't make you innocent.
1. I believe people who rage about pirates while they have Avatar on DVD already or buy used games are hypocrites.
2. I believe that even if a game is downloaded a million times, doesn't mean one million sales.
3. I also believe calling out pirates in an article on a gaming site is pretty foolish, especially when you mention the tool most pirates use to steal on the DS. I understand the goal is to inform the gamers, but you're only informing tons of people on how to do it.
4. I don't think pirating only old games makes you suddenly not a pirate.
5. I don't think pirates or used game buyers are scum of the Earth.
6. That Penny Arcade WAS pretty neat.
Retro Game Challenge was great. With proper advertising, we could be playing a sequel now as well.
1. I believe people who rage about pirates while they have Avatar on DVD already or buy used games are hypocrites.
2. I believe that even if a game is downloaded a million times, doesn't mean one million sales.
3. I also believe calling out pirates in an article on a gaming site is pretty foolish, especially when you mention the tool most pirates use to steal on the DS. I understand the goal is to inform the gamers, but you're only informing tons of people on how to do it.
4. I don't think pirating only old games makes you suddenly not a pirate.
5. I don't think pirates or used game buyers are scum of the Earth.
6. That Penny Arcade WAS pretty neat.
Retro Game Challenge was great. With proper advertising, we could be playing a sequel now as well.
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