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Scum of the earth. I look the other way for music and obscure, hard-to-find movies... But when you defile a game that a group of people worked hard on because you're a cheap douche-hole, I get friggin' vocal!
B leh, it's not even satisfying, IMO. I like to have the game box/cover/cartridge/disc/manual. It makes my game collection look complete, and managing digital games is boring, unlike reorganizing my game collection.
That reminds me, here in sunny Irvine, CA (or Orange County in Southern California for you folk), you cannot find a copy of Miles Edgeworth anywhere. Not that it's already out of stock, but because no one had ordered stock to begin with. Actually, Gamestop might have a "new" copy, but the Best Buys I've checked don't even have records of carrying the game. Which is weird, since it's not like the game missed the ship date.
I guess it's Amazon for me then.
I guess it's Amazon for me then.
I agree completely.
People are always complaining when companies want to try and PREVENT piracy of their games/systems through updates even though it will eventually be hacked again, but it DOES deter a lot of piracy.
It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to pirate DS stuff and the Wii isn't much better. Maybe if Nintendo put ANY effort towards it at all then third parties wouldn't have such a hard time selling anything on the Wii.
Nintendo has always come across to me as the most arrogant of the big three console makers. They honestly seem completely out of touch with what the core gaming demographic really wants and CONSTANTLY go as far as saying it point blank pretty often.
So long as they're making money, they don't give two shits about the OCEANS of crap that gets put on their system or about the crap that piles up on good developers trying to make good games and a little bit of money to get by.
There was a lot of poop in that metaphor but it still makes sense.
People are always complaining when companies want to try and PREVENT piracy of their games/systems through updates even though it will eventually be hacked again, but it DOES deter a lot of piracy.
It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to pirate DS stuff and the Wii isn't much better. Maybe if Nintendo put ANY effort towards it at all then third parties wouldn't have such a hard time selling anything on the Wii.
Nintendo has always come across to me as the most arrogant of the big three console makers. They honestly seem completely out of touch with what the core gaming demographic really wants and CONSTANTLY go as far as saying it point blank pretty often.
So long as they're making money, they don't give two shits about the OCEANS of crap that gets put on their system or about the crap that piles up on good developers trying to make good games and a little bit of money to get by.
There was a lot of poop in that metaphor but it still makes sense.
@ GemPadre036
You know that reminds me of touhou.
The games are unbuyable (I've never seen a touhou game posted on ebay or Amazon) and yet it's the proof of the success of user-generated content. I listened remixes from the series for months, have seen hundreds if not thousands of examples of impressive fan-made artwork, dozens of fan-made games, hundreds of fan-made mangas, mousepads, plushes, costumes, even cds of the music. But trying to get an "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil" cd, or any other of the 12+ games in the series, is among the most annoying thing I have ever attempted.
You know that reminds me of touhou.
The games are unbuyable (I've never seen a touhou game posted on ebay or Amazon) and yet it's the proof of the success of user-generated content. I listened remixes from the series for months, have seen hundreds if not thousands of examples of impressive fan-made artwork, dozens of fan-made games, hundreds of fan-made mangas, mousepads, plushes, costumes, even cds of the music. But trying to get an "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil" cd, or any other of the 12+ games in the series, is among the most annoying thing I have ever attempted.
I haven't pirated games, or anything for that matter, since the Commodore Amiga days. I always felt my pirating aided in it's demise.
I don't mind hacking, but copy/stealing games is some of the scummiest behaviour there is.
I don't mind hacking, but copy/stealing games is some of the scummiest behaviour there is.
Downloading games: Fine when it's old stuff that is harder to find/more expensive than what warrants spending (see your Mega Man Legends 2s or Mega Man X3s among others)
When it's just come out though, it's just a dick move that hurts the industry from making quality titles. Developers shy away from the platform in delivering anything substantial since, well, they're just going to lose money on it anyway!
So yes, enjoy losing good games for more shovel ware, kids. This behavior actually ENCOURAGES that; low-no effort games. Same thing happened to the PSP until the homebrew scene was effectively locked down by Sony and lack of developments.
When it's just come out though, it's just a dick move that hurts the industry from making quality titles. Developers shy away from the platform in delivering anything substantial since, well, they're just going to lose money on it anyway!
So yes, enjoy losing good games for more shovel ware, kids. This behavior actually ENCOURAGES that; low-no effort games. Same thing happened to the PSP until the homebrew scene was effectively locked down by Sony and lack of developments.
This is really sad. Just because a small portion of poor, jobless hacks can't get money to buy a game means that legitimate people who want to play something good can't. That is fucked up.
The sad thing is, now people in those areas either have to pirate the game in order to play it, or import it at a higher cost.
Just by the game not being available there's now more incentive to pirate then there would have been had it been available in those territories.
Just by the game not being available there's now more incentive to pirate then there would have been had it been available in those territories.
But, pirating never hurts anyone right? I mean, the only people who pirate games are the people who wouldn't have bought them to begin with right? RIGHT? /sarcasm
@ DinnertimeNinja
First, when DRM makes games unplayable, then piracy becomes a necesity.
But more than that, why on earth would Nintendo want to appeal to people that if given the ability, would steal/refuse to pay for everything they make? Is that really the type of person any buisness would want to do buisness with? Mind you, I'm not talking about people who would take free stuff if they could do it without reprimand even, but people who void their warranties, buy specialized equipment, and/or research methods of getting content for free.
Also, I disagree on Nintendo being the most arrogant. I think Sony is the most arrogant this generation, they are out of touch with what the masses want, only able to appeal to the super-core gamers that are stupid enough to buy a PSPgo. They were really out of touch when they were selling Playstation 3's for $600's on their ability to play blue ray disks and run linux. I would say the Nintendo had to humble itself tremendously to admit that they couldn't compete with the PS3 and Xbox 360 graphically, while Sony arrogantly ran it's console buisness into three straigh years of poor sales, bad assumptions about consumers, and billions of dollars in losses in it's gaming department.
First, when DRM makes games unplayable, then piracy becomes a necesity.
But more than that, why on earth would Nintendo want to appeal to people that if given the ability, would steal/refuse to pay for everything they make? Is that really the type of person any buisness would want to do buisness with? Mind you, I'm not talking about people who would take free stuff if they could do it without reprimand even, but people who void their warranties, buy specialized equipment, and/or research methods of getting content for free.
Also, I disagree on Nintendo being the most arrogant. I think Sony is the most arrogant this generation, they are out of touch with what the masses want, only able to appeal to the super-core gamers that are stupid enough to buy a PSPgo. They were really out of touch when they were selling Playstation 3's for $600's on their ability to play blue ray disks and run linux. I would say the Nintendo had to humble itself tremendously to admit that they couldn't compete with the PS3 and Xbox 360 graphically, while Sony arrogantly ran it's console buisness into three straigh years of poor sales, bad assumptions about consumers, and billions of dollars in losses in it's gaming department.
@AOClaus
Sometimes pirating is the only way to play a game. If you don't speak japanese the only way to play Mother 3 is to pirate it. Now I'm not saying that pirating games is right, but if it's your only option to play a game what am I going to tell you?
Basically, if you live in the retail zones where this game isn't available and you choose to pirate the game I'm not going to be pissed at you. However if you can buy the game easily, but choose to pirate it, you're not getting any sympathy from me.
Sometimes pirating is the only way to play a game. If you don't speak japanese the only way to play Mother 3 is to pirate it. Now I'm not saying that pirating games is right, but if it's your only option to play a game what am I going to tell you?
Basically, if you live in the retail zones where this game isn't available and you choose to pirate the game I'm not going to be pissed at you. However if you can buy the game easily, but choose to pirate it, you're not getting any sympathy from me.
@ Thwak - Piracy of a game that is worth nothing is a bit different than piracy of a game that is sold.
There was never any incentive to sell the games in those territories because of piracy, so piracy can't hurt a net income of zero off the game. The company had to admit that the game had no value in that region because of piracy, thus effectively making the value of that game in that region zero.
I suspect that the strongest force motivating piracy in many regions is price, and the easiest way to lower pircay is to lower the tariff. Brazillians and Australians should not have to pay double what I pay for a game. I'm not sure about Australia, but in Brazil I know the motivating factor is rediculously high import taxes. I am surprised that there does not appear to be any inherent push towards more free trade in those regions though.
Incidently, China has similar problems with piracy. Over there, it's institutionalized. Most software vendors can tell a pirate from a non-pirate fairly easily when issuing updates (aparently), and in that country the issue is so bad I'd bet that Microsoft could cripple their military with a single update. anyone remember the incident where pirated Microsoft Operating Systems were updated with a background asking the users to buy legal Microsoft Software?
There was never any incentive to sell the games in those territories because of piracy, so piracy can't hurt a net income of zero off the game. The company had to admit that the game had no value in that region because of piracy, thus effectively making the value of that game in that region zero.
I suspect that the strongest force motivating piracy in many regions is price, and the easiest way to lower pircay is to lower the tariff. Brazillians and Australians should not have to pay double what I pay for a game. I'm not sure about Australia, but in Brazil I know the motivating factor is rediculously high import taxes. I am surprised that there does not appear to be any inherent push towards more free trade in those regions though.
Incidently, China has similar problems with piracy. Over there, it's institutionalized. Most software vendors can tell a pirate from a non-pirate fairly easily when issuing updates (aparently), and in that country the issue is so bad I'd bet that Microsoft could cripple their military with a single update. anyone remember the incident where pirated Microsoft Operating Systems were updated with a background asking the users to buy legal Microsoft Software?
Well I'm buying this one full price. In other news, I just discovered this game was released two days ago, when I thought it wasn't due to hit for another week or two. As I am a huge Ace Attorney fan, this does not bode well. Oh well, I'll be picking it up soon.
I hate to play devil's advocate, and I truly believe that people who have the capability to buy a game, and then go ahead and pirate it anyway, are douchebags who ruin everyone's fun
but you seriously cant' expect people to buy ALL these fucking games. Like, who is going to spend what could possibly be their ONLY luxury funds for the month on a obscure game over a big game they were looking forward too. I mean some of the stuff that comes out on these consoles are trash. I know, there's the capacity, if you look at AAA titles like MW2 and those, but these little amazing DS and Wii titles? Most of the kids who are into Ace Attorney are kids in their teens who are just starting to work and just do not have the funds to buy these. When I was growing up my parents threw me on my butt in terms of luxuries when I hit the teens. I missed out on so many amazing games, and its the same with many of these kids. For all the adults or early 20somethings making enough, fuck them to hell. But you have to understand why someone is doing something before you can stop it.
But I'm 100% against the R4, and making a device like that just destroys my arguement. If you spend money to pirate stuff, and they aren't too cheap either, that means you could buy a couple of these games. Sure, not as many, but if you saved up, you could have a few.
Go ahead and bash my head in for just remixing the dead "they weren't going to buy it anyway" shit, and I know that the excuses just open the floodgates for more unexcused piracy. I just think its an extremely interesting situation.
but you seriously cant' expect people to buy ALL these fucking games. Like, who is going to spend what could possibly be their ONLY luxury funds for the month on a obscure game over a big game they were looking forward too. I mean some of the stuff that comes out on these consoles are trash. I know, there's the capacity, if you look at AAA titles like MW2 and those, but these little amazing DS and Wii titles? Most of the kids who are into Ace Attorney are kids in their teens who are just starting to work and just do not have the funds to buy these. When I was growing up my parents threw me on my butt in terms of luxuries when I hit the teens. I missed out on so many amazing games, and its the same with many of these kids. For all the adults or early 20somethings making enough, fuck them to hell. But you have to understand why someone is doing something before you can stop it.
But I'm 100% against the R4, and making a device like that just destroys my arguement. If you spend money to pirate stuff, and they aren't too cheap either, that means you could buy a couple of these games. Sure, not as many, but if you saved up, you could have a few.
Go ahead and bash my head in for just remixing the dead "they weren't going to buy it anyway" shit, and I know that the excuses just open the floodgates for more unexcused piracy. I just think its an extremely interesting situation.
Incidently, you should not pirate games. Ever. You do not have the right to get content illegally simply because you cannot get it legally. Now I'm not going to accuse anyone here of anything, but there is a prevalent sense of entitlement in this thread that simply does not exist, and the reason entitlement does not exist is because you do not own the intellectual property, therefore you do not get the right to decide if you can access it. Only the owner of the property can decide who can and can not use his property. Do not try to justify the piracy of yourself or others simply on a basis that is a fallacy.
I went to get this game yesterday, and Target and Wal-Mart didn't have it. Not sold out, but didn't have it at ALL. And GameStop had one copy, but it was a reserve copy. Bummer. Next week... But if pirates keep the Ace Attorney games from succeeding, there will be... consequences.
@thwak
"Basically, if you live in the retail zones where this game isn't available and you choose to pirate the game I'm not going to be pissed at you. However if you can buy the game easily, but choose to pirate it, you're not getting any sympathy from me."
Anyone can buy the game easily, thanks to the magic of the internet. There's no excuse.
@thwak
"Basically, if you live in the retail zones where this game isn't available and you choose to pirate the game I'm not going to be pissed at you. However if you can buy the game easily, but choose to pirate it, you're not getting any sympathy from me."
Anyone can buy the game easily, thanks to the magic of the internet. There's no excuse.
I find it funny how everyone is against one kind of piracy, but not another.
"You can't expect people to buy all these ******* games" "But I'm 100% against the R4"
" I look the other way for music and obscure, hard-to-find movies... But when you defile a game that a group of people worked hard on because you're a cheap *****-hole, I get friggin' vocal!"
"Bleh, it's not even satisfying, IMO. I like to have the game box/cover/cartridge/disc/manual. It makes my game collection look complete, and managing digital games is boring, unlike reorganizing my game collection."
"It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to pirate DS stuff and the Wii isn't much better. Maybe if Nintendo put ANY effort towards it at all then third parties wouldn't have such a hard time selling anything on the Wii."
"Downloading games: Fine when it's old stuff that is harder to find/more expensive than what warrants spending (see your Mega Man Legends 2s or Mega Man X3s among others)
When it's just come out though, it's just a dick move that hurts the industry from making quality titles."
"Sometimes pirating is the only way to play a game. If you don't speak japanese the only way to play Mother 3 is to pirate it. Now I'm not saying that pirating games is right, but if it's your only option to play a game what am I going to tell you?"
There's always a justification, isn't there?
"You can't expect people to buy all these ******* games" "But I'm 100% against the R4"
" I look the other way for music and obscure, hard-to-find movies... But when you defile a game that a group of people worked hard on because you're a cheap *****-hole, I get friggin' vocal!"
"Bleh, it's not even satisfying, IMO. I like to have the game box/cover/cartridge/disc/manual. It makes my game collection look complete, and managing digital games is boring, unlike reorganizing my game collection."
"It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to pirate DS stuff and the Wii isn't much better. Maybe if Nintendo put ANY effort towards it at all then third parties wouldn't have such a hard time selling anything on the Wii."
"Downloading games: Fine when it's old stuff that is harder to find/more expensive than what warrants spending (see your Mega Man Legends 2s or Mega Man X3s among others)
When it's just come out though, it's just a dick move that hurts the industry from making quality titles."
"Sometimes pirating is the only way to play a game. If you don't speak japanese the only way to play Mother 3 is to pirate it. Now I'm not saying that pirating games is right, but if it's your only option to play a game what am I going to tell you?"
There's always a justification, isn't there?
@Hcapt - I was just going to write about touhou myself as it is the only thing I will pirate as it is the hardest shit for someone in the greater chicago land area to get. Oh but I did happen upon a copy of Tiouhou 12 and 12.3 so hey, I hits me a physical copy. Still wish I can get one music CD though.
Hmm, I hope we got at least one copy of this game at work. Saying it's not in your best buys doesn't help, though.
Hmm, I hope we got at least one copy of this game at work. Saying it's not in your best buys doesn't help, though.
I'm with thwak. He sums it up rather concisely, if you can buy the game and you pirate it - you're a dick. If you can't get a hold of the game where you are (example Mother 3) then I have little problem with it.
Swings and roundabouts.
Swings and roundabouts.
@gatorsax2010
"Anyone can buy the game easily, thanks to the magic of the internet. There's no excuse."
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Most shipping rates to places like Brasil range from 50 to 70 USD dollars, more than the game itself costs. You put taxes into the mix, and a 50 dollar game now costs 200 dollars.
Incidentally, if you can tell me of any good stores that ship games to Brasil for a reasonable price, I will love you forever.
"Anyone can buy the game easily, thanks to the magic of the internet. There's no excuse."
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Most shipping rates to places like Brasil range from 50 to 70 USD dollars, more than the game itself costs. You put taxes into the mix, and a 50 dollar game now costs 200 dollars.
Incidentally, if you can tell me of any good stores that ship games to Brasil for a reasonable price, I will love you forever.
I pirate music because Trent Reznor says I can, and I don't want him to initiate Operation "Make Year Zero A Real Thing", because that would suck.
I don't pirate games because I don't have the patience. CD keys, unlockers, bitcrackers, flippyfloopys, fuck em.
If it's not on Steam, I'm not touching it.
I don't pirate games because I don't have the patience. CD keys, unlockers, bitcrackers, flippyfloopys, fuck em.
If it's not on Steam, I'm not touching it.
‡Horyharakestrel
Great avatar. I would kill for a real localization of those games. I've actually been wondering why the guy never hires a translator and tries to send it west. Those games of his are highly desirable, and I have a feeling that his (admittedly small but very vocal) American fanbase would pay a ton for his games over here if they could.
Good to hear you got a copy.
Great avatar. I would kill for a real localization of those games. I've actually been wondering why the guy never hires a translator and tries to send it west. Those games of his are highly desirable, and I have a feeling that his (admittedly small but very vocal) American fanbase would pay a ton for his games over here if they could.
Good to hear you got a copy.
Speaking of easily hacked: The PS1 was easily modded and still managed to sell software, so I'm pretty sure Nintendo is doing something wrong.
@Hcapt
True, although I am against game piracy in all of its forms. But if you can't find a copy of the uncut DVD version of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker in stores or on the web, I won't fault you if you want to watch it through less "legal" means. I suppose that makes me a hypocrite, but I never claimed otherwise.
True, although I am against game piracy in all of its forms. But if you can't find a copy of the uncut DVD version of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker in stores or on the web, I won't fault you if you want to watch it through less "legal" means. I suppose that makes me a hypocrite, but I never claimed otherwise.
Edit: It would be easier to make a (9) reference to a cirno fan if the (9) ball symbol I replaced the @ with didn't look like an unrelated squiggle.
I'm not saying that piracy is a good thing, but you guys should know how things work here in Brazil:
There is no official distribution for games over here (at least until a few months ago), so they're all imported, which mean goverment taxes (very high), plus the fact that there are no stardard pricing, it may change from game to game and the retailer can charge as much as they like for a game.
With this, you get an average Wii or DS game for 80~85 bucks, it's even worse in the PS3 case, you'll find PS3 games like Uncharted 2 or Assassins Creed 2 for 130~140 bucks, and it might get worst when God of War 3 comes out.
Now, someone please answer me, how the hell am I supposed to play video games in here without piracy?
There is no official distribution for games over here (at least until a few months ago), so they're all imported, which mean goverment taxes (very high), plus the fact that there are no stardard pricing, it may change from game to game and the retailer can charge as much as they like for a game.
With this, you get an average Wii or DS game for 80~85 bucks, it's even worse in the PS3 case, you'll find PS3 games like Uncharted 2 or Assassins Creed 2 for 130~140 bucks, and it might get worst when God of War 3 comes out.
Now, someone please answer me, how the hell am I supposed to play video games in here without piracy?
The only time I'll pirate/download games and ROMS is when the games in question are out of print, and if I buy a copy, the money wouldn't be going to the companies anyway. Hell, I don't even play NES ROMS if those games are available on the Virtual Console, whether I own the VC downloads or not.
Pirating/downloading games when they're new or even leaked before release without the intension of ever buying them is a crime in every sense of the word. And this is a game in a series that deserves as much exposure as possible.
Pirating/downloading games when they're new or even leaked before release without the intension of ever buying them is a crime in every sense of the word. And this is a game in a series that deserves as much exposure as possible.
@ Hcapt
"There was never any incentive to sell the games in those territories because of piracy, so piracy can't hurt a net income of zero off the game."
That is EXACTLY why I have no problem with a certain type of piracy - of course if the game is later released in those areas I would hope anybody that pirated the game previously would go out and buy it, I know I would.
Then there's 'abandonware', games that are just not in print any more and are extremely difficult to get a hold of. While still illegal to download in my mind the same rule of thumb applies. I personally have pirated a copy of System Shock 2. Do I feel guilty about this? No. Why? Because the second it goes back into print and I can legally buy it somewhere, I will.
(It's worth noting that aside from Mother 3, of which I'm in the process of trying to get a legal copy, SS2 is the only game I've ever pirated.)
I guess what I'm saying is this: I'm OK with piracy if it's a means of playing a game you otherwise couldn't. If, however, that game suddenly becomes available to you, you owe it to the developer and publisher to buy it.
"There was never any incentive to sell the games in those territories because of piracy, so piracy can't hurt a net income of zero off the game."
That is EXACTLY why I have no problem with a certain type of piracy - of course if the game is later released in those areas I would hope anybody that pirated the game previously would go out and buy it, I know I would.
Then there's 'abandonware', games that are just not in print any more and are extremely difficult to get a hold of. While still illegal to download in my mind the same rule of thumb applies. I personally have pirated a copy of System Shock 2. Do I feel guilty about this? No. Why? Because the second it goes back into print and I can legally buy it somewhere, I will.
(It's worth noting that aside from Mother 3, of which I'm in the process of trying to get a legal copy, SS2 is the only game I've ever pirated.)
I guess what I'm saying is this: I'm OK with piracy if it's a means of playing a game you otherwise couldn't. If, however, that game suddenly becomes available to you, you owe it to the developer and publisher to buy it.
Would you steal a car... If you could get away with it
Would you steal a meal... If you could get away with it
Would you steal $1,000,000 dollars... If you could get away with it
That's the issue that we as a gaming community face with piracy. Because, it is due to the ability of individuals in stealing games. Why steal a game from a store anymore? It's because the internet believes in free exchange in information. How as a gaming community do we answer what is right or wrong?
Is it OK for an individual to make a backup copy of their game?
I have been a victim of this issue. I keep a game even thought it has been broken and shattered by my nephew who got into my basement. Due to the powers beyond my control, some of my prized items were broken. I always kept out to show my friends. My cases and cds of Suikoden II, Xenogears, and Tales of Destiny were destroyed. In addition, I forgot to say... they were factory sealed unopened copies of all three games. His mother/my sister wasn't watching him and he gained access.
Using that as a bases, would a community agree or disagree in an individual being able to download a copy of the game online? If an individual would buy a game and not wish to "unwrap it" but still be able to play it by downloading it online. Is that ok as well?
*All issues spoken about in the context to protect the two individual friends of mine that had these issues happen to them*
Would you steal a meal... If you could get away with it
Would you steal $1,000,000 dollars... If you could get away with it
That's the issue that we as a gaming community face with piracy. Because, it is due to the ability of individuals in stealing games. Why steal a game from a store anymore? It's because the internet believes in free exchange in information. How as a gaming community do we answer what is right or wrong?
Is it OK for an individual to make a backup copy of their game?
I have been a victim of this issue. I keep a game even thought it has been broken and shattered by my nephew who got into my basement. Due to the powers beyond my control, some of my prized items were broken. I always kept out to show my friends. My cases and cds of Suikoden II, Xenogears, and Tales of Destiny were destroyed. In addition, I forgot to say... they were factory sealed unopened copies of all three games. His mother/my sister wasn't watching him and he gained access.
Using that as a bases, would a community agree or disagree in an individual being able to download a copy of the game online? If an individual would buy a game and not wish to "unwrap it" but still be able to play it by downloading it online. Is that ok as well?
*All issues spoken about in the context to protect the two individual friends of mine that had these issues happen to them*
@Hcapt
In regards to your high tariff argument, makes sense. It's completely, 100% horse shit but it makes sense. The US has, by far, one of the cheapest regions to buy video games (yet people STILL complain). We are NOT being charged $60 for when Dragon Quest IX eventually comes out here nor are we expected to pay $98 for Final Fantasy XIII. Our region, the US, is by far one of the greatest sales regions. One can amass a huge legitimate collection especially when bin diving. Now keep this in mind as I go forward...
Vast majority of PSPs piracy comes from the states. All over Craigslist are people willing to hack your 360/PSP/Wii or sell you an R4. Some go so brazen as to sell their old consoles with stacks of DVDR games as an incentive to purchase. In our region, there is no excuse for this behavior, and yet it happens. Cheapest damn gaming region IN THE WORLD and people still steal shit.
In regards to your high tariff argument, makes sense. It's completely, 100% horse shit but it makes sense. The US has, by far, one of the cheapest regions to buy video games (yet people STILL complain). We are NOT being charged $60 for when Dragon Quest IX eventually comes out here nor are we expected to pay $98 for Final Fantasy XIII. Our region, the US, is by far one of the greatest sales regions. One can amass a huge legitimate collection especially when bin diving. Now keep this in mind as I go forward...
Vast majority of PSPs piracy comes from the states. All over Craigslist are people willing to hack your 360/PSP/Wii or sell you an R4. Some go so brazen as to sell their old consoles with stacks of DVDR games as an incentive to purchase. In our region, there is no excuse for this behavior, and yet it happens. Cheapest damn gaming region IN THE WORLD and people still steal shit.
@ Xaeius,
In my mind that's absolutely fine. In fact I wouldn't even consider that piracy in any sense of the word as you're not stealing the game. You've paid for it - it's like ROMs as long as you have an original copy, and can prove it, it's fine as far as I'm concerned.
In my mind that's absolutely fine. In fact I wouldn't even consider that piracy in any sense of the word as you're not stealing the game. You've paid for it - it's like ROMs as long as you have an original copy, and can prove it, it's fine as far as I'm concerned.
Bought Miles Edgeworth and beat it this morning. The game is boring. Honestly, this is the first Ace Attorney game that I bought where I wanted my money back. The characters are bland. The dialogue isn't as witty as the other games... honestly, this is all good news to me.
@ GEMPadre036
Truth be told, it is very difficult to find someone that isn't a hypocrit on the issue. Even ordinary youtubers technically pirate music, television, and movies. I simply find the hypocracy humerous.
Back before the internet you simply did not have these issues. It wasn't possible to pirate so you simply couldn't get access to rare movies, nor were you aware that they existed. Now that there is an easy avenue juxtaposed to a nearly impossible route, piracy occurs.
Come to think of it, Nintendo does a lot of stuff specifically to make piracy impossible and/or undesirable that the other companies don't. You don't pirate metroid prime trilogy or the new mario game because half the value is in the collectable box that you display on your self. Can't pirate wii fit because it requires a balance board. Can't pirate sport's resort because it needs a motion plus hardware. And motion games are very difficult to pirate onto a PC due to the lack of acceptible inputs. I think spoofing up the aspects of games that can't be pirated protects them from piracy. Still, it makes you wonder why any company would want to head towards digital distribution; then there is no inherent difference in the game between the owner's version and pirate's, and in some cases pirates have the advantage.
Truth be told, it is very difficult to find someone that isn't a hypocrit on the issue. Even ordinary youtubers technically pirate music, television, and movies. I simply find the hypocracy humerous.
Back before the internet you simply did not have these issues. It wasn't possible to pirate so you simply couldn't get access to rare movies, nor were you aware that they existed. Now that there is an easy avenue juxtaposed to a nearly impossible route, piracy occurs.
Come to think of it, Nintendo does a lot of stuff specifically to make piracy impossible and/or undesirable that the other companies don't. You don't pirate metroid prime trilogy or the new mario game because half the value is in the collectable box that you display on your self. Can't pirate wii fit because it requires a balance board. Can't pirate sport's resort because it needs a motion plus hardware. And motion games are very difficult to pirate onto a PC due to the lack of acceptible inputs. I think spoofing up the aspects of games that can't be pirated protects them from piracy. Still, it makes you wonder why any company would want to head towards digital distribution; then there is no inherent difference in the game between the owner's version and pirate's, and in some cases pirates have the advantage.
I haven't even finished Trials and Tribulations yet, why would I pick up Miles Edgeworth which only came out THREE DAYS AGO? Hell, I have friends who still play Pokemon Pearl, are we going to start blaming them for poor DS software sales as well?
Don't hate me! I only steal games that I can't find anywhere else because how else will I get them? And games that are selling well because it won't be a big impact on sales. And games that aren't selling well but that everyone is pirating because I won't be enough to make a difference anyway. And games that aren't selling well that nobody is pirating because fuck it, who's going to notice.
Alright, hate me.
Alright, hate me.
@hbk
Yes, I don't have to, but I WANT TO, and I should have the right to do it properly.
If I don't have the oportunity to get new releases with a fairly decent price or even used games for 20 bucks and if you happen to have that opportunity, I almost feel forced to swear at you for being such a fucking hipocrit.
Yes, I don't have to, but I WANT TO, and I should have the right to do it properly.
If I don't have the oportunity to get new releases with a fairly decent price or even used games for 20 bucks and if you happen to have that opportunity, I almost feel forced to swear at you for being such a fucking hipocrit.
I love all the people who assume everyone on the internet is stealing stuff. "Oh come on like you never stole anything on the internet you hypocrit!" they shout.
No, actually, I haven't, but thanks for assuming everyone is just as big a jackass as you.
No, actually, I haven't, but thanks for assuming everyone is just as big a jackass as you.
Holmes your last paragraph is pure epic win, you are 100% right, the piracy affect to many people in direct (developers, publishers) and indirect ways (gamers that waited too long for certai title).
Sony won the last gen of consoles with 115 millions of consoles... All thanks to piracy... SCREW YOU SONY!!... SCREW YOU NINTY!!!
And that is the price that will be paid to developers. You cannot stop piracy and you never will. Don't copy that floppy! But no one in marketing will see it that way. Distribution is what drives it. And better distribution will end it, like that will happen... Or at least help to curve it, or something.
@Hcapt
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▲ ▲ Heh... that's all I know how to make. Oh, and here is this ⑨ for yeah as well.
BTW, they will never be localized as ZUN hates the main stream or whatever. I like it that way personally. As much as I would love to see people know more about Touhou, the internet will be the place for me.
@Hcapt
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▲ ▲ Heh... that's all I know how to make. Oh, and here is this ⑨ for yeah as well.
BTW, they will never be localized as ZUN hates the main stream or whatever. I like it that way personally. As much as I would love to see people know more about Touhou, the internet will be the place for me.
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