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Pirates banned for Halloween on 360 photo

Microsoft has come down hard on some pirates this Halloween. No, not the slutty girls in short skirts and low cut pirate blouses or the guys dressed up like Johnny Depp, silly. Gosh, why would you think that unless you constantly think in really bad puns, in which case you lead a terrible life. No, for the past week Microsoft has been banning "a small percentage" of Xbox Live users that had systems that were modded to play pirated games. IGN uncovered the deed after seeing a bit of complaining going on in the Xbox Live forums.

After being contacted, Microsoft had this to say on the rash of complaints, "We have taken action against a small percentage of consoles that have been modified to play pirated game discs. In line with our commitment to combat piracy and support safer and more secure gameplay for the more than 20 million members of our Xbox LIVE community, we are suspending these modded consoles from Xbox LIVE."

I mean, good for Microsoft. Don't steal games. Lesson learned. Anyone here banned for their dubious activities?

[Via Hot Blooded Gaming]








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glasgowryan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 21:13
glasgowryan
I hope Lil Wayne was banned, the smug cunt.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 21:13
HEL105
I wish Microsoft would have bricked their consoles instead of just banning them from XBL. Pirates = shit.
Bishna's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 21:17
Bishna
yo ho matey
JiR INC's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 21:39
JiR INC
why would you even go online with a pirated account it makes no sense..well all to there own... the idiots LMAO
CapnCrunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:03
CapnCrunk
So they ban the consoles and not the XBL accounts? So now they have no choice but to not play pirated games online... seems like it really doesn't change anything, the people with modded firmware were all expecting to get banned eventally.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:07
Maurice Tan
Everyone who plays that stuff online knows the risks, so they shouldn't complain. Then again, if you are going to just play offline, you might as well risk it?

Also, people who got banned lost the ability to install games to hdd, or at least a lot of them do. Should make for a nice end-of-year sales boost for MS though, or for Sony ;)
sauceatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:18
sauceatron
just read some of the forums from xbox about bans. it's interesting the amount of people that get banned for something in their profile or username, and yet microsoft doesn't tell them what's appropriate. is it mentioned in the terms and conditions? i mean how hard is it to write these guys that had inappropriate stuff in an email as to what exactly they need to change?? maybe it was just overlooked? can you really not tend to support that way? i got xbox, and now that makes me worried.
Squishy3's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:22
Squishy3
I think bans for offensive terms in gamertags and bios are based upon the amount of complaints they receive about them, rather than them actively looking for them.
Saturn118's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:36
Saturn118
Listen to Major Nelson's podcast after PAX. It explains everything ranging from the punishment matrix to how they can monitor people playing UNO using cameras.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:43
ArrestedDeveloper
Did you know you it's against the rules expose yourself over the Xbox Live camera in even between two willing partners?

RedRainWillFall's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 22:56
RedRainWillFall
Im not sure i understand but it says microsoft banned "some pirates" and "a small percentage" if this implies that they know of other consoles that are modded then why not just ban all of them? Also why wait until some random day and ban afew people, why not ban on the spot when they "find" people with modded consoles? Or maybe i just cant read =P
Deny Everything's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 23:08
Deny Everything
That picture is totally hot.
KaliKot's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 23:43
KaliKot
@JIR INC
If you don't go online EVER with a hacked box, then what's the difference of that compared to being banned?
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 23:48
Jawmuncher
LOLZ at them doing it on Halloween
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 23:58
Elsa
Good. Console manufacturers and devs have to have a decent relationship and there has to be trust that the console manufacturers do not in any way actively (or even passively) encourage piracy.
ChildOfLore's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 00:44
ChildOfLore
Pirates = Annoying but modded consoles = awesome. With homebrew and just the sheer awesomeness of being able to screw with a consumer product and make it do your bidding, modded consoles are the best, so are they just targeting known pirates or anyone with a modded console?
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:11
Jon B
@Qraze
The instant the Xbox is modified, it's breaking the ToS the user agreed to when they bought the system. Microsoft are within their rights to block consoles.

As for fixing the console yourself, yes, that sucks, but this is a case of the majority ruining it for the minority.
TheTruth's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:15
TheTruth
@arresteddeveloper: Whoa, whoa, whoa! Seriously? Even consensual? Man, I dodged a bullet there. Or a hammer anyway.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:18
Volomon
Wait, wait there's a deeper story here, did IGN give away people's IP?
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:19
Volomon
I'm thinking of picking up an Xbox360, I mean damn they are already playing Modern Warfare 2.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:34
Qraze
i can see a lawsuit or two racking up if microsoft hasn't updated their terms and conditions. but this wouldn't stop me from fuckin microsoft up their money tight ass if i had a 360. once again, a company punishes the consumer for the companies lack of security. what a grand console from a grand company. are people who fixed their 360's themselves getting banned?

i wonder if the psn will ban me because i repaired my bluray laser myself for half the price they wanted to charge me. just you wait sony, once the ps3 is cracked i'll be fucking you too with no vaseline.
Exquisitor's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:42
Exquisitor
The only reason they did this is to sell more consoles. They did this right before Halo 3 came out and viola, huge increase in Xbox 360 sales. Flash forward to 2009 and we see an upcoming release of Modern Warfare 2, I'll guarantee you that this is why we're seeing a sudden ban.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:49
Volomon
Qraze it's in almost all electronic agreements, under reverse engineering. Plus it's part of the law you can pay a find of up to 100,000 or 10 years in prison since it's federal law. If you mod a console and rip games. I think recently they adjusted it though, to be per digital copy of a copyright infringement I think it's 30,000 per each offense though that could be just music.

Ya technically MS still owns the console so you can't do whatever you want to it.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 01:57
gamadaya
@Exquisitor:
Yeah, I mean a huge increase in 360 sales right before the Halo 3 launch? Talk about suspicious!
SetoChaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 03:52
SetoChaos
It's good that Microsoft is banning pirates but some of those posts in their forums seemed quite convincing. A lot of them were saying they just got them back from repair and it was banned. I hope this isn't a trend...
Octomom's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 07:48
Octomom
@SetoChaos

Well I do know some people arrogant/stupid enough to have sent in their modified 360s for repair to Microsoft. The guys I knew didn't get banned at the time (this was quite a while ageo) but MS might have smartened up and started having a closer look at consoles being sent in for repair.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 08:13
Xzyliac
I'm super curious how they know these boxes are modded.

Is it just because they get games before street date? If so that blows because a ton of people have connections to get games before their official release.

I really wanna know.
doggod's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 08:38
doggod
@Qraze ,sorry but that is bullshit ,u dont buy the xbox from microsoft u buy from a retailer ,as there is no agreement u sign before purchase there is no agreement ,(you purchase to license)u are entitled to do what so ever u want with the console ,it is only the online service that u sign up to and which u have to pay for separately that forbids modded consoles but only in term of using its online service with.
if microsoft start disabling consoles they would be sued to hell and back as they could never prove that the person who made the account actually owned the console.at worst they can disable your online account,and roll back any updates they made as(improvements) they made to software on your box
based on your assumption a car compay could come an disable your car because u decide to put new rims from a different manufacture on it,they can claim though that they will not support the warranty as u made changes to the car if this is mentioned in the warranty
doggod's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 08:40
doggod
edit should be (you purchase not license)
Jonny's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 09:36
Jonny
I'm almost 100% certain that this is BS and that they can't detect the bit in the firmware change that stops from reading the disc tag microsoft has. Just like before, the only people that are getting banned are idiots who are playing the games connected to xbox live before they're actually released.
keisal's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 10:06
keisal
@ doggod as far as i know if you don't go online with the console you dont have a problem
@exqusitor the huge increase in xbox 360 sales during halo 3 launch was due to the fact that halo 3 was the first halo game on 360 and an exclusive so many people waited to buy there 360s until the launch of halo 3 in the event that they were able to catch a price drop or a newer version of the console. you arent going to see that kinda increase with mw 2. ps3 and 360 might both have slight increases but not much. the banning right before the release of both of these games is probably more to force people to buy legit copies of two of the most popular games on the 360 or risk not being able to play multiplayer. obviously with halo 3 this directly increases their profits but with cod itd be stupid to get on the wrong side of infinity ward or people would just buy it for their ps3s.
agentarsenic's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 11:03
agentarsenic
@Xylizac...whatever

Most people mod 360's by flashing the DVD firmware. Google 360mods for more info.

The whole "leasing the console from Microsoft" is BS. If you buy it, you own it. When my 360 died from heat failure, did my lovely landlords (xboxlords?) replace it for me? No. I had to do it myself, like an apartment tenant having to go fix the boiler down in the basement. Not only that, but I had to buy the tools to open the 360, the thermal glue for the GPU, and another fan so it wouldn't happen again.

Theoretically Microsoft may be able to detect changes in the firmware through a checksum or something, but the pirates are smart and "stealth" the firmware so it's undetectable. My guess is MS is banning people by checking achievement dates. I don't think they'd ban everyone that played a game before release, as some retailers do release games early. If they see a pattern of games being played near the release of a torrent (and since torrents get dates with their uploads, easy enough for MS to Goo...I mean, "Bing") they'll ban the person. An easy way for pirates to get around this is to set the console date somewhere in the future while offline, or set it to the default November 2005 date (MS couldn't possibly ban people for that, because if you unplug/default the system it goes to that date. I bet lots of mostly offline gamers have relatively new games with achievement dates in 2005).
Woverine's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 11:11
Woverine
actually if you are offline while getting achievements there is no time stamp. So they couldn't tell like that. But even if you get achievements for games offline.. the second you sign on it's going to update to your profile so they will see you have them early. Most of the bans are from not having good rips of the games. If the game someone burned is not 1:1 exact with the retail copy (some of the super early releases have been review copies and very easy to spot) then they can easily tell your a modder.
agentarsenic's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 11:21
agentarsenic
@Wolverine

I could've sworn when I took the 360 on vacation and played Ghostbusters offline all the achievements were still stamped, but I could be wrong.
MonkeyOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 11:54
MonkeyOne
Spoke 2 some one at msoft and apparently you 360 stores the crc and media ID of all games played offline on any account and uploads them to the live servers. so playing on-line is no different than playing off-line. not sure how it works but stealth firmware just doesn't send this information to the storage buffer and then somehow fakes the return from the buffer so the game will boot.the different waves in copy protection just have different returns so the newest wave have returns that can't be faked coz the firmware is unaware of that wave.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 15:43
Qraze
all i can say it look at current and past lawsuits people make. someone absolutely will try to do something, no matter how stupid it is.
SetoChaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 16:26
SetoChaos
@Octomom

Maybe, but I don't think that it matters how good their banning system becomes. With no appeal system they are assuming that they are 100% correct 100% of the time. Somehow I think they'll accidentally ban at least a few of the wrong people. Either that or they won't ban enough of the correct people.
fundando's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 17:54
fundando
if the console is modded they should just brick them. Like back in the days of the cable 'black box'.
RBinator's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/01/2009 18:01
RBinator
"...we are suspending these modded consoles from Xbox LIVE."

So they ban you from Xbox Live, but you can still use your modded console to play pirated games? Isn't that only partly stopping the problem, especially for those that mostly play single player games?

While it's better than nothing, they'll only catch the dumb pirates.
Shulamm's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/02/2009 05:30
Shulamm
Who cares all of this.... It was a double exp weekend in GoW2!!! And I haven't realized!! Destructoid friends, why haven't you warned us like in others moments?
Christopher Scaggs's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/06/2009 16:18
Christopher Scaggs
i think microsoft is gay as hell for this who cares how does it make it safer online play people are playing the same game no matter what they need to worry about the petifiles and pervs get a life microsoft and suck a fat one.
theungodlybastard's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/07/2009 08:15
theungodlybastard
I wouldn't mind ms banning people from live if they did as soon as they found modded software, I mind because ms probably already knew about tons of people playing modded games but waited to ban them until a certain very popular online game (mw2) came out just so they could make a ton more money from people having to buy new xboxes and games to play online. That is just cold calculating greed, not anger at being cheated out of a portion of its earnings.

Another point I can get thoroughly worked up about is the fact that xbox games in America sell for 60 dollars (45 euros) and games in England sell for 30 pounds (35 euros) while games in Holland cost 60 euros which is way too expensive especially for just about 80% of the games that came out in the last 3 months (exceptions: borderlands, dragon age origins etc.)
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