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Despite the fact that Gears of War 2 lead designer Cliff Bleszinski cited piracy as a big reason for focusing development of his game on the Xbox 360, Epic main man Mark Rein has decided to be a Contrary Mary and give a different analysis.

Here's what Cliffy had to say on the issue:

Here’s the problem right now; the person who is savvy enough to want to have a good PC to upgrade their video card, is a person who is savvy enough to know BitTorrent to know all the elements so they can pirate software. Therefore, high-end videogames are suffering very much on the PC.

Right now, it makes sense for us to focus on Xbox 360 for a number of reasons. Not least PCs with multiple configurations and piracy.

Speaking to Ripten, Rein answered a question over young Clifford's statements by not answering it at all, merely citing his own reason for the game's 360 development:

The reason we decided not to develop Gears 2 for PC was so that we could focus our resources on making Gears 2 the best possible Xbox 360 game it could be rather than splitting them across multiple platforms like we did with the first one. I think Gears 2 will be a better game for it and that this was the right decision.

So what's the story in Balamorey? Is it piracy or is it simply to make a better game? Could it be both? If so, why did Rein dodge the question? I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting that you don't want to put a game on a platform right away because it will be stolen to buggery. Well, it might upset PC gamers ... but they have Peggle!








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Muon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 14:08
Muon
No delicious keyboard + mouse action? Yikes.

Still buying it, but I wish it would come out for the PC.
Archanai's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 14:08
Archanai
I think it likely that at least one or two of the dev team know how to, have, and will again pirate games(that is the parts of the dev-team in the media spotlight), so they know that, no matter the security precautions they use, it'll get pirated to hell. Why waste time making a pc version when they can focus on making one on a console that will be appreciated just as much there.

Also: Damn straight I got Peggle!
Kotua's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 14:13
Kotua
I'm sure Valve is suffering right now, what with their "high end" video games being pirated left and right. Same thing for Blizzard and Stardock right? I'm sure Warhead and Spore are also still selling well, despite the whole DRM fiasco.

Though seriously... "High-End" Video games?
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 14:23
Dan CiTi
Good the y don't say piracy. It's so fucking easy to pirate on 360.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 14:45
Holyetheline
PC gamers are killing PC gaming with their bloody piracy all the time.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 14:46
Niero
I heard Intel reps can fly kick people in the face that aren't even in the same zip code somehow
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 15:11
Wexx
I didn't realize you had to be computer saavy to drop 3 grand on an alienware with a good video card. Good thinking there Cliffy B! Also: Fuck off, I preordered Fallout 3. ON PC.
Mabans's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 15:19
Mabans
See what I really meant was that for decades PC gaming was our bread and buddy but now we have no need for breakfast cereals anymore. But as we all know kix make me gotta have my pops. come on Clffy this is how you shit on us? how about this? Gears on PC blew because it was a Windows Live game. I don't see excuse hurting games like TF 2, Counter Strike, WoW, and a slew of other good games coming out. Not to mention one of the biggest success stories in video game history comes from the PC thanks to the Sims and WoW. Piracy isn't the issue, it's quality. Make a good game and players will flock to it, just that simple.. PC players seem to be a bit more spoiled, but who knows. It's cool all these new little tricks are NEW to console gamers, not so much PC players. it's all good, the magic works, just don't trash us instead.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 15:27
Sharpless
I'll side with Rein on this one. Sounds more credible. Cliffy's just kind of in his own little darling world.

Also, fuck PCs. <3
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 15:37
TheToiletDuck
At least I can pronounce PC, what the hell is a Bleszinski.

I'm glad Mark Rein has seen the error of his ways. The PC has been spoiled by quality shooters for years, it's hard to compete with something that has been designed for console and has the limitations required to make it a more palatable console game. It's the similar to how RTS's have never done that well on console.

There are certain games that lend themselves to a PC environment, and an arcade shooter like Gears is one for the couch not the computer desk.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 15:47
psycho terror2
so he's worried about splitting the team between 2 versions?

i may be wrong here, but that sounds like a total crock of shit because iirc the PC version of gears was produced entirely after the 360 version was finished...
ZonerDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 16:15
ZonerDude
Shame on them for not wanting to support a platform rife with thieves and piracy. Those poor stealing buggers will have one less game to rip off now.
Muetank's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 16:54
Muetank
Wow, good job Cliffy. Way to bend a fresh biscuit on the platform that originally gave you your job if you don't remember. Ya, the first Unreal Tournament, remember that? Oh the reason that Gears of War didn't do so well on the PC wasn't the fact that it had been out for the 360 a year before hand so every one that wanted it pretty much had it at that point. Or the fact it was buggy and had other problems. Or you had to have that crummy Windows Live subscription to play it online. No, it was the pirates. You know what, how about you just go make a proper Unreal Tournament and then get back to us. This last one sucked on ice.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 17:07
Velt
This is much simpler: "we dont have money to port to the PC".
HertzaHaeon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 17:17
HertzaHaeon
If I recall correctly, the story for the first GoW was pretty much the same - a 360 exclusive, period.

6 months later it's a different story. Of course MS and Epic aren't going to tell people GoW2 will be out on PC in 6-12 months. It'll still be a great game, but PC hardware costs will be down.

Thus they can sell the game to people like me twice, first on the 360 and then on the PC.
RJG's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 17:42
RJG
When Epic makes a good game for PC, I will but it. Gears of War sucked. Unreal Tournament III sucked. It's a good thing PC gamers have Valve and Stardock, because if all we had to play were Epic's "High-End" games then no one would have a damn thing to do.

Except Peggle.
KevlarGibs's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 17:55
KevlarGibs
360 is going to get peggle, and my cellphone could have peggle if i wanted it to...

I have gears both on 360 and PC, and i actually like the 360 version better. when playing on PC, i actually use the 360 controller... i have a hard time with the mouse controls for some reason. The PC version looks prettier, but I imagine if gears 2 came out for both systems, it would be hard to tell the difference anymore.

i wish all this PC Piracy talk would die down... it makes it annoying for those of us who do buy their games...i am all for internet authentication. i love playing my steam games without a disc in the drive, and look forward to doing the same with RA3.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2008 23:15
Wedge
Hahahaha, as usual, Mark has to Rein in that loudmouth. And the real reason is, it's a fucking console game. It's made for a controller and small scale multiplayer. The first one sold for shit on PC for both being a terrible port and being a game that doesn't play well on the platform.
Kasmodiah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2008 09:51
Kasmodiah
"Here’s the problem right now; the person who is savvy enough to want to have a good PC to upgrade their video card, is a person who is savvy enough to know BitTorrent to know all the elements so they can pirate software."

I have a solution to this problem. Ban video card upgrades. No video cards upgrades, no BitTorrent pirating.
HardenedWarVet's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 09:55
HardenedWarVet
I wasn't going to buy GOW2 for the PC anyways :P
Blackhat's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 16:36
Blackhat
"When Epic makes a good game for PC, I will but it. Gears of War sucked. Unreal Tournament III sucked. It's a good thing PC gamers have Valve and Stardock, because if all we had to play were Epic's "High-End" games then no one would have a damn thing to do.

Except Peggle."

Damn straight. I think it's kind of telling that his game got BAD REVIEWS, then suddenly it's the fault of Piracy. Or, or it could be that the game came up against better games (Team Fortress 2, Stalker, what-have-you) and wasn't as good. Because.. it isn't. I don't like it for mostly personal reasons, but basically, it's a boring game. And God damn is it ugly. Grays of War might be passable on a 360, although lord knows why, but come on, Quake one had more colours in it. And the enemies are just as retarded in GoW as they are in Quake.
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2008 16:47
Cube
Of course gears of war did not sell on PC it sucks.

hell It is not even up to PC peoples standards for a good game from epic.

Ut2004 is still way batter than anything gears of war ever did and that engine has been out since like 2003.


Pc people expect more than the crap simple mindless gameplay and cheep ass graphics gears of war gave us. I didn't care and i still don't.

I didnt even pirate the first gears of war, and I could have that is how much I don't care.


What i do care is how lame Ut3 is compared to ur2004, what the hell are you doing to your games epic?
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2008 16:51
Cube
Oh and gears of war was a PC, game in the first place until like HALO micrsoft spooned them gobs of money to put it on there sad little console box.


they showed the engine and game as PC tech with gears of war crap running. way before gears of war was even shown that is why i was never shocked.


Oh look it that guy from the tech DEmos when they was talking ut2007,,, boring.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m7T5ay_8DI


watch it your self.
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