Quantcast
Destructoid Japanator Tomopop Flixist
Dtoid Forums now support TapATalk and ForumRunner on your iOS/Android devices. Whoot.

PIPA hearing is shelved following 'recent events' photo

In the wake of the hugely successful blackout protests, the Protect IP Act has suffered a major blow to its credibility (yes, another one). The bill's hearing has been postponed until further notice, thanks to "recent events" that saw it gain eighteen new opposing senators. 

"In light of recent events, I have decided to postpone Tuesday's vote on the PROTECT IP Act," said Sen. Harry Reid. 

PIPA was seen by many to be the slimier, more sinister cousin of SOPA, something they were trying to pass under our noses while we were distracted. The blackouts, however, seem to have done more damage to PIPA than SOPA, which is very useful. Now we just need to yank Lamar Smith's head out of his Hollywood-loving ass. 

Reid shelves PROTECT IP Act in response to "recent events" [Ars Technica]








More gaming stories around the web. Got news? Submit yours to tips@destructoid.com

Jim Sterling serves as reviews editor for Destructoid.com, head of the Podtoid podcast, and produces a number of news stories, original features, one-of-a-kind videos. With his passionate argumentative style, controversial opinions, harsh delivery, and dedication to brutal honesty Sterling is a name that you can't help but recognize. Likes PS2, iPod Touch, Silent Hill 2, Metal Gear Solid, Dynasty Warriors 3 Meet the rest of the team



Post a comment! You can also post a photo below:

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

30 comments | showing # 1 to 30
prev next

EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:10
EdgyDude
I'd rather have a "Discarded" than "Postponed" title but i'll take what i can get, also IMO it's imperative not to lower the guard after the initial victory, in my experience politicians have the tendency to do these kinds of things only to later approve shady laws in a quiet out-of-public-view way.
Seraphy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:10
Seraphy
Recent events being the blackouts or the Megaupload blowup?
NickCull's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:10
NickCull
Some damn good news.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:11
EdgyDude
*I'd rather have seen
Street Flighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:15
Street Flighter
Do you see what happens when you provoke the internet?

Lucid003's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:18
Lucid003
So, what I get from this is that they'll delay it until the public has more or less forgotten about it and THEN they'll try to pass it again.
Manistine's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:22
Manistine
"Now we just need to yank Lamar Smith's head out of his Hollywood-loving ass."

Not possible, at first I thought he was just really corrupt and it was about the money. However, the more he talks the more I realize he may very well be the dumbest person on the planet, actually scratch that, dumbest living thing on the planet.
FrankYorkMorgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:24
FrankYorkMorgan
Finally some good news, but i'd love they just discard both shits.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:31
The Silent Protagonist
Its so nice to see Harry Reid defeated again, but yes, Lamar Smith needs his turn to be humilated.

Really, though, as easy as it is to target the bad, we also need to push for the real reforms that are in Rep. Darrel Issa's bill, OPEN.

http://keepthewebopen.com/
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:37
psycho terror2
@ Seraphy

the megaupload thing is probably what's going to break both bills no matter how it ends. if they win that case it proves they don't need more powers. if they lose the case it'll prove how damaging a failed attempt at a takedown can be for both the company and users effected.

that site might have had a lot of copyright infringement going on, but it also had a lot of legit use. however it ends those legit users might lose their livelihood, or at least their important backups etc not to mention the millions of dollars worth of accounts that just became worthless because the USA decided to take that site offline. aside from the financial losses, lots of people are going to be harbouring some ill will for this kind of thing now.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:39
psycho terror2
oh and of course i don't think its a coincidence that they timed the raids on megaupload to coincide with the ORIGINAL date of the SOPA hearing, and possibly conducted them without due process (time will tell on that one).

kinda fishy...
TheRedDevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:45
TheRedDevil
It's great news that it has been postponed but it would have been better if both bills were gotten rid of.
TheRedDevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:45
TheRedDevil
It's great news that it has been postponed but it would have been better if both bills were gotten rid of.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:46
Janklogs
Fuck yes!

Also, inb4brainwasherattendent'sconspiracytheories
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:52
The Silent Protagonist
@thereddevil - Maybe, but postponement of a bill in an election year may as well be death for most legislation.
TheRedComet's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:54
TheRedComet
@Street Flighter

DAT GIF!
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:58
Rammstein
@Jim: I wouldn't go as far as calling the protests 'hugely successful' since A) Not many notable sites actually went completely offline(Dtoid's own Forums, Cblogs and articles were ALL accessible/available) other than Reddit and Wikipedia and B) Megaupload.

Where's your God now, Jim? How does it feel knowing all this is for nothing, that America's All-Seeing-Eye and invincible and unlimited Long Arm of Freedom's reach can find you anywhere in the entire planet and systematically eliminate you? (implying they've never been able to do that anyways, costanzaface.jpg)

All trolling aside, seriously, don't you think it's kinda coincidental that the raids happened as they supposedly 'backed off' on SOPA/PIPA because of any pressure from a few random websites that mean jack shit to legislators and interest groups' bottom-line?
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 10:12
Jim Sterling
Rammstein:

Here's the thing. SOPA/PIPA is not so much about creating new laws, but making it easier to impose existing ones. Companies CAN take sites down right now, but it's a lengthy, more costly process thanks to there being regulations in place. As such, they can only target high profile examples like, for example, Megaupload.

It is still terrible, and scary, but the laziness and greed of rights holders stops them from taking minor infringements by nobodies like us as a call to action. SOPA/PIPA would take the effort out of it, allowing companies to not be so selective in who they take down. That is why SOPA/PIPA need fighting, and why it's not as useless and futile as you're making it out to be.

Also, you are significantly understating the fresh press Wikipedia's blackout brought to the issue. You're also misunderstanding what the blackouts were for if you think they were intended to upset legislators.
Aequitas's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 10:14
Aequitas
@Rammstein: Money only goes so far. Supporting legislation that has strong, nationwide public opposition is political suicide. And if there's one thing politicians want above all else, it's to remain in power, where they can continue raking in special interest money.

That's why I view the blackouts as a success. Wikipedia going dark prompted the attention of millions in and of itself, and forced the mainstream media to report on it, bringing it to the attention of even more. The more people that begin to be informed, the more potential allies we have, and the less likely SOPA/PIPA will slide into law under the radar.

They're going to have to redraft these bills from the ground up under another name, which at least buys us time until the elections are over.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 10:16
The Silent Protagonist
@Rammstein - Unless you can prove a connection between the bills and Megaupload, you don't really have much of a case. As I understand it, Megaupload was already targeted under the DMCA, which passed in 1998. It has not been updated or revised in light of these new bills.

The DMCA is legit, too, and a large reason why SOPA and PIPA were never needed.

Megaupload and sites like The Pirate Bay have to face the music from DMCA eventually whether SOPA and PIPA were a thing or not, so yes, it is a coincidence and that's all it is. DMCA is still doing its job.
IliyaMoroumetz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 10:24
IliyaMoroumetz
For now, victory is ours. But the war continues until the liver-spotted dinosaurs than run the Major Content Corporations die in their gold plated mansions.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 10:28
Batthink
Bloody good header image there. ;O)

All this talk of copyright and stuff reminds me of this case involving a Brit who's facing extradition because he made a directory of links to 'unlawful downloads or video streams', even though he wasn't responsible for those downloads/streams.

He's facing ten years in jail if found guilty of whatever the authorities are charging him with. I mean, he would have had rulings slightly more in his favour if he didn't set up a second site and put the cover of 'F*** the Police' on the front page after the first was shut down.

I mean, cease and desist is a little annoying, but ten years is overkill.
CaptainHowdy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 10:43
CaptainHowdy
Awesome. We are close, but it's not the end yet.

Hopefully SOPA/PIPA, will get discarded.
OneRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 11:02
OneRed
Of course they're shelving it, they're going to see if the issue cools down then try to get a vote in more quietly. Failing that, they're going to let it cool so that people believe they've won something, then slide it in once people start saying "nah, we defeated SOPA like last year, shit's gone".

They will eventually pass a SOPA/PIPA style bill, or at least in many pieces over many years, unless we stay vigilant. The entertainment industry wants it too badly, and the next time they give it a go, they're going to look back on this and realize a little more discretion is in order.

They almost slipped something like SOPA/PIPA past us last year, and it was the government itself that iced it. There were no protests, no blackouts, no petitions, none of that. They've done it once; they didn't get away with it this time, but they know they came closer when everything was on the hush.
ShotgunDiplom4t's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 14:13
ShotgunDiplom4t
@Rammnstien
Can you please stop? I get it, you have a huge fucking ego that you have to forcibly satisfy else you'll explode. Why not try dealing in it in more normal ways, like going outside, picking up girls, and having fun, instead of, oh I don't know, trying way to hard to win arguments on the Internet?

Seriously dude, you aren't shit. Get over yourself troll.
ShotgunDiplom4t's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 14:16
ShotgunDiplom4t
@Rammnstien
Oh, and "where's your god now?"? Seriously? You weren't able to think of a less cliché line to make yourself look like a pompous douche? Get the fuck out of here dude.
BrowneyeWinkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 15:06
BrowneyeWinkin
I want to empty you in my mouth Jim Sterling.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 15:40
BoomingEchoes
Personally, I spoke out against both on Wednesday. Even if they're "different" they're really more or less one and the same (I call them more sisters, then cousins)
PrinceHeir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 19:23
PrinceHeir
it's not over yet :P
doktorwyzzerd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 20:01
doktorwyzzerd
Ok maybe PIPA and SOPA are bad bills, got to far whatever. Something has to be done about piracy, it is killing multiple industries. It has killed the music industry, it is killing movies and it will kill games. Ever wonder why there's little variety in music? There used to be a lot more before piracy but there's less money now because of theft so only the lady gagas and truly big indie artists can get anywhere. Ditto movies, remember when there were a lot more indie movies, a lot more risky movies? Now only Michael Bey survives. Piracy hurts the little guy the most because it makes staying in the black so much harder. Something more than DRM has to be done, if the sites profiting from piracy aren't taken on by the law for their unlawful use of other peoples content then quality, innovative entertainment will die.
prev next

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

Comments policy

Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just speak your mind. We respect differing opinions on the site, so have at it. Be smart, funny, insightful, clueless, or cute -- but back it up with substance. Keep your cool, keep it fun. We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox. Each comment is your opportuntity to make this community awesomer. Is that even a word?

Avoiding the banhammer only requires common sense: spamming, trolling, racism, NSFW stuff, and other forms of sucking will not be tolerated. If anyone is griefing please report abuse. Be good. Don't suck!