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Phoenix Wright had been planned for Tatsunoko vs Capcom photo

In an interview with NGamer magazine, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom producer Ryota Niitsuma revealed that everyone's favorite defense attorney, Phoenix Wright, had been planned as a playable character in the crossover fighting game. Unfortunately, the team found difficulty in creating a moveset for Wright, due to his limited arsenal of combat techniques:

...because Phoenix Wright only has one move, 'Objection!', we struggled. We designed a move for him: when he says objection, the actual writing attacks the opponent. However, 'objection' in Japanese is 'igiari' -- it's four characters, whereas 'objection' becomes ten. When we localise, the balance of the game gets destroyed because the move becomes bigger. There'd be no way of avoiding it! We had to remove him for these reasons. In the future, it is one of our aims to get him in.

So, there's still hope that we may see Phoenix crop up in the future. What would be really awesome is if they decided to just make him a character unique to the North American release of the game. Only having him available in one special version of the game, the one that I will be buying and playing on my Wii, seems like a perfectly reasonable solution to me.








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Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:01
Kraid
HOLD IT! There is a glitch in your shinku hadoken!
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:02
Havoc Fang
...Why not just make the font smaller...?
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:06
Los255
If I had to pick any characters from the series, it would be Godot or Gant.

Godot for obvious reasons and Gant because he's Zeus.
phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:07
phantomile
"when he says objection, the actual writing attacks the opponent"


That's such a dumb idea. Why didn't they just make "Objection!" a special move that, by putting the opponent under stress, slowly drains their health until they land another hit on Phoenix.

Then "Hold It!" could have frozen the enemy in place for a short time.
"Take that!" could have just been a physical attack from his oversized finger.

Capcom saying Phoenix Wright only has one attack makes think a lot less of them. He would have been a great character.

Here's to hoping someone steals my ideas here and puts him in the NA version.
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:10
DF
That's almost a bullshit reason. Igiari and Objection take up the same amount of space in the DS games. Work your magic with that, huh?

And come on, Nintendo made an entire moveset for Captain Falcon for Super Smash Bros. It doesn't have to make sense! Though I've heard a lot of people say he should use evidence from previous cases as weapons/etc. =P
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:10
covah
I hope hope hoooooooooooope that he's one of the new characters for the US version. Just the right obscurity.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:19
Justice
I knew they'd use his speech bubbles as attacks! Here's hoping he still makes it in the English release.
Shadowstew's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:29
Shadowstew
Lol they cut him from the roster because he was TOO powerful.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:29
Darren Nakamura
No way around it? How about you make "Ob," "jec," and "tion" all count as one character? Or just make each character do 3/10 of the damage of the Japanese ones, so that hitting with all of them would cause the same total damage? I just came up with two possible solutions, in about thirty seconds. It's a shame, too, because were Phoenix Wright in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, I might actually consider playing it.
's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:34
Clint
I'll come up with one for you guys for free Capcom. Just give me Phoenix D:
's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:34
Clint
Also, if Nintendo can come up with one for Captain Falcon, you can do Phoenix :P
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:40
GoldenGamerXero
Why did you freaking taunt us CAPCOM! Now whenever I look at the game's characters I'll always think "Someone should've been replaced by Phoenix" I would love to play as Phoenix Wright in any game!
phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 13:49
phantomile
So what do you think their reason REALLY was, considering the one they gave is complete bullshit?
Sid Of Bee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:02
Sid Of Bee
That is definitely the lamest reason for giving up on putting Phoenix in as a fighter. If they can't cross that hurdle, then I must question their overall creativity.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:03
ShadokatRegn
I could see him slapping someone with a "Hold it!" and throwing the book - he even could've had a special with a gavel! That IS BS. I would've played this, too.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:09
Kyle MacGregor
Regardless of who they put into this, TvC is a day one purchase for me. Phoenix Right would have been cool, but hopefully if he isn't included someone equally memorable will be included rather than some obscure character nobody cares about.
Gligarman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:14
Gligarman
Localization strikes again. I'm sure people wouldn't have been THAT offended to see "objection" written in katakana, hiragana, or kanji. I think people would get the idea regardless.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:21
mrplow8
They could just no translate it, like they do with half their other fighting games.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:22
mrplow8
not translate it even
Ffordesoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:28
Ffordesoon
I am almost - almost! - ashamed by how awesome that sounds to me.

And yes, using his verbal attacks as DPS moves would rock the flippin' house. Maybe the player has to quickly input a fireball motion to call Edgeworth or Franziska? :D
Laird's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 14:53
Laird
I think they could have made "Objection!" a reversal move to somebody's special attack wherein both players have to mash buttons or something to decide whether the objection is sustained or overruled. And if it's overruled the original special move does more damage to Phoenix perhaps.
invader alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:01
invader alex
Why don't they just keep the attack in japanese?
I pretty sure half the people buying the game are weaboos (hopefully no one gets ofended)....
JLanphear's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:13
JLanphear
How about who cares? If anyone deserves to be overpowered it's Phoenix Wright. :)
Jesse Cortez's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:14
Jesse Cortez
I'm calling it now. The new Capcom character will be Zack and Wiki. They'd make an AWESOME fighting game character, especially with TvC's style of play. Ringing the bell could be the super, his moveset could consist of using the items in the game (for instance, the snake claw or the bat umbrella), as well as having wiki act as a projectile attack.

Not to mention his art style would fit so well with the rest of the characters :D.
jdub28's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:35
jdub28
The vs games are all about filling the screen with as much crap as possible, Phoenix Wright could be the new Storm.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:37
Discarded Couch Sandwich
I suck too much at fighting games to justify purchasing another one, but Phoenix Wright would have sold it to me! I'll willingly throw my money at Capcom if he comes to the UK one..
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:51
Johnny Justice
Well, Phoenix is a bit of a pussy when it comes to violence. I think they should use the whip-happy Franziska instead.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:54
Jawmuncher
OMFG Missed Oppurtunity.
He Better be in the US release or in TvC 2.

He would have been much cooler than Axel or that guy from Onimusha dawn of dreams
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:57
eskimo bob
that can't be the real reason. they can easily be made the same size.




see? *holds thumbs that the images will actually be shown in comment*
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:57
eskimo bob
double post to say: hooray! it worked!
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 15:58
MasterBalls
Even though I don't have an idea who the hell Tatsunoko are, using OBJECTION as a special move = day one.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 16:01
mrplow8
Since when is Capcom against putting broken characters in their fighting games?
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 16:20
ArrestedDeveloper
Why not just break up the english objection attack into syllables? Also, he says "Take That" too, that could be an attack.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 16:37
Tubatic
Lame reason confirmed! They really couldn't come up with a moveset for Pheonix Wright? make him a mystical or something! Obecction point, throwing familiar evidence from te games, summoning the sisters. Calling in support from the Detective.

If they made Jill Valentine a character 10 years ago, someone had to be able to make a cool skill set for Pheeny...
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 17:01
Dan CiTi
Just give me Gene Capcom. That being said, this is disappointing.
reruns's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 17:17
reruns
No amount of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! macros could express my sadness.

You could have just kept this to yourself, Conrad Zimmerman; we didn't need to know.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 17:21
Jonathan Holmes
@ Tactix- I was thinking Z&W too, but something about it doesn't seem right to me. The only playable Capcom character in TvC that's only been in one other game before was the robot from Lost Planet. If that pattern continues, that means that the Smiths (Killer 7), Gene (God Hand), Z%W, Vanessa Schnider (PN 03), and Fiona (Haunting Ground) are all out.

If we're going to get a character that's only been in one other game before, I figure that it will be a character from a series that Capcom is hoping will become a new series for them, and not necessarily on the Wii. The Dark Void guy, Frank West, that sort of thing.

Personally, I know that no matter who they pick, there will be at least five other characters that I'll have wished they also used. I wont be really happy if and when TvC2 hits.
Bilar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 17:42
Bilar
If Phoenix can't work, then just put in Steel Samurai. A little obscure, yes, but hey, at least he fights.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 18:16
Los255
Ok, how about Franziska Von Karma? Her whip justifies her being in the game.

Now I smell BS behind this reasoning. Were they gonna make him the joke character and backed out because of possible alienation of Phoenix to the fans?
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 19:37
Jawmuncher
Franziska von Karma would fit pretty well.
But come on a Super Objection Attack would rock especially if like people said earlier it could get overruled and such.

Man with all this talk he better be in number 2 which better happen
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 19:40
Electrium
Pretty epic that they considered it. That was always a dream of mine, to fight people while playing as Phoenix Wright.

I mean, look at what HAL/Nintendo did with Captain Falcon in Super Smash Brothers. They had to extrapolate a lot for his moveset. Surely the same can be done for Phoenix!
thenooby1's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 20:16
thenooby1
This has got to be a joke. There are way harder characters to make up moves for. I don't buy it.
Ball Buster's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 20:57
Ball Buster
Why not put Godot in too? He can throw coffee for a projectile. And maybe he can go Cyclops-style with that visor.
TJF588's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 21:19
TJF588
*hopes this is implemented in the NA version*
too stupid-cool.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 22:22
Gen Eric Gui
I find it funny that almost nobody looked at that and saw it for the joke it clearly was.
GohanGVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/15/2009 23:11
GohanGVO
Personally, I am hoping for a Power Stone character so that Capcom can tug at my heart strings for an eventual Power Stone 3.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 02:40
Midgetsnowman
They coulda borrowed GOTCHA! and HOLD IT! from Apollo to fill out his moveset. >.>

Also. Supposing we get Ace Attorney Characters. I demand The Amazing Mr Hat, Apollo, or Klavier as well as Franziska for consideration. >.>
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 04:19
atastysammich
I won't lie--I'd be reluctantly forced to buy a Wii if Phoenix were to make a surprise appearance in the US version.
Laird's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 12:57
Laird
@GohanGVO

O shi... I completely forgot about how awesome the Power Stone series was! They should totally do that!
Black Wombat's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/18/2009 16:10
Black Wombat
Just for fun, I've made a list of some possible attacks for the attorney (besides the "Objection!" one):

-Shouts "Hold It!". If timed correctly, the speech balloon stops the opponent's attack.
-Shouts "Take That!" and pulls a random piece of evidence, which he throws at the opponent.
-Slams the ground with his hands, just like he does with his desk
-Swings his briefcase at the opponent.
-Pulls a paper from his briefcase and throws it at the opponent.
-Hits the opponent with the "The Thinker" clock statue.
-Attacks with Steel's Samurai spear

Hyper combos:
-Gumshoe, Edgeworth, Larry Butz, Maya Fey, Ema Skye, and Cody Hackins run into the opponent.
-Wright shouts "Objection!", and a giant version of the judge's hammer falls above the opponent.
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