A petition has been formed to force new legislation in Japan that could see an end to videogames portraying underage characters in "erotic" situations. The Japanese Diet will listen to this petition and its goal of a ban on games and anime that feature underage illustrated erotica.
Our towns overflow with adult anime magazines and games which often depict elementary school girls, and the minds of the youths who are seduced by these games are unwittingly destroyed; they lose their very humanity, there are already incidents of young maidens being plucked from the streets and murdered. Since it is plain that our society has now become one where young girls are placed in great peril, the issue of free expression is a thing of the past. To curb these profit seeking companies with no conception of social morals, to restrict the creation of products which place young girls in peril, there is a pressing need for penal regulations and the accompanying laws.
We wish to see enacted laws restricting the manufacture and sale of bishojo adult anime magazines, and bishojo adult anime simulation games.
Personally, I find this so-called "loli" stuff pretty disgusting and more than a little creepy, but I'm never a fan of using the law to remove what I don't like. It also doesn't account for the fact that you can pretty easily claim that an illustrated character is any age you want it to be.
I don't agree with the proposed law because not only would it be difficult to enforce (a law that says "make anime characters look a bit older plz" won't work), the games and anime themselves don't actually hurt anyone. As they say; if it harms none, do as thou wilt. Just don't expect to be asked to look after small children or household pets.
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6:43 AM on 05.22.2008
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Robin Williams-style "Jack" porn? That's sick, bro.
But sadly, everyone loves a scapegoat.
no matter the law, even IF it IS changed, people alwyas find a way..
and there will be dedicated artists reayd to practice this!
Fucking WHAT?!
"Yeah, I'd rather have loli-pervs than cp-pervs."
Posting delicious CP
WHAT?
You can make it illegal, but you can't stop it. If you do make it illegal, it will go underground. At least this way the perverts are not forced even further underground without an outlet for their (IMO, not that I'm judging) perverted fantasies about minors.
If you make owning lolicon hentai a crime, then only criminals will have lolicon hentai.
Not into this stuff, but each to his own I guess.
Chances are if we brought you to Japan businessmen would pay lots to see you dance. Something us Dtoiders get to see for free. Consider it a perk.
Shame on you all.
2. The great chain it too powerful and too mysterious for any government to control.
See this
Still creepy as all hell though.
Ban loli? Lets ban Japan as a whole, that would dramatically reduce the amount of pedos. Right?
Quite moronic.
I did here that Unicef had a thing about sailor suits in japan, and because of their popularity in cosplay, games, anime and manga wanted to get them band, because they promote that loli culture and youth in the wrong image.
If any of this goes through, its gonna hurt anime, manga and games bigtime, but it won't kill it. These things are part of japanese culture, and while anime and manga stuff is now more mainstream, there's little evidnce that purging such culture will help anyone.
Don't get me wrong, there are some apsects of anime, manga and games that are just plain wrong, but they'd need to prove beyond a doubt that such material is harmful (very hard to do). Again, in similar way to GTA4, its easy to blame pop culture for societies ill, instead of seeking and address the real issues at hand. Japan has many they just ignore, beyond such media.
If there's a crackdown, everything will more than likely move online. The other interesting thing is that loli culture helps sell a lot of such media, so if this was passed, japan loses out lots of money. Its very hard to say no to money, especially when japan is still recover from their recession. Such outside pressure could just as easily see this passed though.
With this one loophole alone, the entire industry can remain alive. Banning it will, in effect, take more effort than it is worth, because the situation will change, but the end result will not: arousal at the site of an immature body.
I don't like this shit as much as anyone, but you can't just ban anything you find uncomfortable. Nobody is getting hurt. In fact, if some studies are to be believed, providing a fake outlet prevents real violence. Ideally, we would live in a world where children are protected and people never hurt one another. But we don't. This is a world where everybody is flawed, and freedom of speech can be used by flawed people. It is for everybody or it is for nobody. That is what freedom is. It is not conditional.
You can't stop people making, reading and enjoying this shit, but you have every right not to let one of them near your kids or hire them to work for you. I know I wouldn't. Not out of malice toward them, but out of an overwhelming desire to protect my own.
On one hand, I will be overjoyed that I wont have to see underage girls in these kinds of games anymore (hopefully this will affect movies aswell).
Meaning that I can actually start playing them again, without feeling disgusted.
On the other hand, stuff like this wont make people pedophiles. Pedophiles are pedophiles because they... are!
Sexual orientations doesnt work that way, you know...
It might be possible that its triggered from something severely traumatical (like rape), but not from something as simple as this.
If this crap gets banned, then we might risk having pedophiles taking their fantasies on REAL children, instead of animated ones. And that worries me a lot!
If you compare this to the west, and you'll see a stark difference without it. Paedos everywhere, even in lofty institutions like churches.
I don't agree with the loli stuff, but I'd rather a potential paedo have that crap than go after real kids anyday. At present there is no cure for paedos, so this stuff would at least give the buggers an outlet. Banning drawn material is like banning an imaginary thought, very hard to do. A lot of loli isn't about underage sexy time, but more innocence, cuteness and stuff. Go ask the loli cosplayers and they'll tell you. Unfortunately, some only see the sexy time.
I can see the universities readying there studies into the pros and cons already.
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Meaning that I can actually start playing them again, without feeling disgusted."
What? So that you can play your raunchy hentai games again without being disgusted? Two nurses are shitting in each others mouth! Awesome! Oh no, a school girl!
Hah, I am just an ass.
Women have always been below men in japanese society, and women still have an uphill struggle to get to that stage of equality we enjoy outside japan.
X3....less of those nurses references...while insanely funny and messed up...
"Another thing. Its often been thought that japan has a very low rate of paedos because such loli/shota material is available to be consumed, possibly curbing those urges they have."
All it'd take is a quick google of sex crimes in Japan to realize just how twisted sexuality is in Japan and East Asia. I can mainly speak of what I know about Korea, since I have family there, but it's much worse in Japan. Every Korean girl can tell you a story about either being groped or stalked by a pervert. You know perverts in Japan are a problem when you open up a special 'Groping friendly' subway to lure perverts away from crowded 'normal' public transportation. I don't think that just because a vice has been deemed socially acceptable means that it's not damaging society.
I think it's funny to read all the comments of people defending the rights of pedophiles, since all the gamers I know are the biggest porn addicts and perverts I know of. That's not a jab but an observation. It's like asking people at a 'Hardcore NRA Blog' about proposing a new policy on gun control.
Also, banning Child Henti won't be the end of Anime, torrents will :)
All developers have to do to appeal to pedos and obey the law is to give underage characters some T&A! The law won't know the difference, but all the sweaty pedos sure will!
Phoenix Gamma: pandering to the law and pedos since 2008!
I'd look it up, but I am afraid that I'd see if I attempted to.
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i dont see why banning a margin of what is part of japanese culture is considered banning japan althgether-i own lots of anime and videogames dating back to my beloved cmmordore 64, most japanese, none containing such material. in regards to the likelihood of this creating paedophiles out of the japanese-it wasn't long ago that child porn was in fact legal in japan, and was stopped when an international body stepped in(although i don't know exactly what they were called) while i do not want to lable a whole civilisation-the impressions i have gathered from japanese media as well as my japanese friends is that seeing children in a sexual light is not considered wrong or a big deal.