Who buys his shit any more? The fact that he can spend years developing a game and not even take an ounce of pride in his work shows how little integrity he has.

No, no, it'll be different this time! Right?! Right?..

I loved Fable III... ._.

jim i love you

I didn't play fable III. After I had no fun with the previous two, I decided to skip it, despite my intrigue in a colonial era setting. I wish he was capable of realizing a shitty game before it ships.

I'm a huge CRPG fan. I've played DAO, DA2, Witcher, Witcher 2, Fallout 3, Fallout NV, and Demon's Souls (technically Japanese but definitely feels Western in a lot of ways) over the past few years. I'm also playing Divinity II right now (which has its strengths and weaknesses).

However, I've never played any of the Fable games. They just don't look that great to me. Can anyone convince me to give them a try?

You know who's fault this is? X-Play's. Which game did they give the GOTY award to in '08? Was it the highly acclaimed Metal Gear Solid 4? Nope. How about the creative and original LittleBigPlanet? Destructive and fast Burnout Paradise? Or how about the parkour game, Mirrors Edge? Nope! They give it to Fable II... Ever since then, Molyneux have went on to touch little children around the world, and was given a BAFTA award for it.

Fable 3 had the potential to be good - a decent story, some nice set pieces...but really? The townsfolk interactions? I got bored with that after the first try. Plus, combat was waaaaaay too easy...again. At least coop was kind of fun.

Of course jimmyx would think Fable 3 was great.

*sigh*

I actually liked the Fable games, then i played Fable 3 and now i don't like 'em. Very simple, and there's no way i'm buying into Pete's bullshit again.

Fable is essentially supposed to be Zelda with all the side quests from Morrowind and the moral system of KotOR. That's what he talked about before the first one even came out. Your supposed to be able to become a hero, a thief, a pirate, whatever. If you plant a tree in front of your house you're supposed to come back and see that it's grown. If you piss of some bully when you're a kid, he hates you later. Somehow over the years he's forgot those concepts and turned the game into a generic action-RPG. He needs to stop simplifying things and be willing to take risks. Each Fable has less customization than the last.

The Molyneux Cycle never fails to amuse me.

@Oshidesu
Well...Fable II is an actual game. Not some interactive movie and a level editor.


/done trolling.

I read this earlier and was laughing the whole way through. Molyneux really is the most pretentious person in the games industry.

I love the first two games, and enjoyed the third one, but with each one there was this increased yerning for the one before...

Fable 1 suffered from a lot of championed features just not being there; none of your choices had conciquence, killing Twin Blade ment his remnants send assassins after out of vengeful remorse, sparing Twin Blade ment he sent assassins after you out of shame. Killing Whisper ment Thunder wanted to kill you out of vengeful hate, sparing Whisper ment Thunder wanted to kill you out of shame...and you could only see Whicper again in The Lost Chapters made the game a bit better.

Fable 2 solve that problem by having the world change with such choices during the decade long gap plot decive and made things feel more open and explorable, but I kind'a felt like I was playing with an action figure, a lot of immersion was gone from the first game. I wanted big hammers that I had to drag behind me out of sheer weight until I upped my strength, but oh well.

Both also suffered from an annoying moment where you become ayor of Bowerstome and King.Queen of Albion in the first and second games respectively, but you didn't get any added features, you couldn't change the law so you could get away with evil shit like a moral god mode reward for getting to this point.

So Fable 3 comes along and you get to finally make shit happen as king or queen...only for it to be the last five minutes of the game and shorter than it claims to be.

The series had soooo much potential, and as an Xbox exclusive it should be so much more...a rival to Zelda maybe, but it'll never happen.

Still, we have Skyrim, Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, and more on the way to give our RPG/Adventure thirsts a quench on 360.

Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?

I'd like to point out that the linked article is an interesting expansion on what went wrong. Probably as good as a post mortem as we'll get.

Really disappointing, because it sounds like if they had another year, or a much better process, Fable III could have been pretty grand.

I really hope Molyneux and team get to make the grand game they're trying everytime to make.

I like Fable, personally.

@PlanetPanton
Have you played some of his past work? Magic Carpet says hi

Molyneux's track record at Bullfrog is pretty much unimpeachable so I've always wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. But, God, I am so sick of him promising the world with every single release. We've all seen this movie: the giant hype build up, the half baked incomplete release, followed by the fake apology and promise that the sequel will cure world hunger. The man is just unbearable. Fool me once (Black & White) shame on you, fool me twice (Fable) shame on me, fool me three times (Fable 2).... DAMN YOU MOLYNEUX!

I agree with rocknerd.. This is only the thought process of an artist. Though it's sorta silly to make it all public, he just needs to learn when to shut up.

I personally think of the Fable games were great, and well worth my time.

@GRiVEN, I TOTALLY agree. The first fable was easily the best of the entire series, yet instead of improving on it and taking it closer to the goals it aspired to, they keep moving further and further away from it, putting their focus on new gimmicks and generally making the series worse.

Fable > fable2 > fable3. Lionhead! look at the past and learn from it for once! Stop bashing all the potential this series had into the ground!

I think all of the Fable games are fun. Its always been a casual franchise. I ignore Peter M's rambling/hyping just like I do with David Cage and enjoy the game in question.

Oh, Peter! You so Molyneux!

I liked Fable 2. I hope tat Molyneux and company will be able to recapture that magic and make a great experience.